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Post by numpty40 on Dec 17, 2017 9:37:39 GMT
Potter, I know he's coaching in a poor league but he has a tremendous record and is a young forward looking coach. I honestly think he'll do very well in the future and someone has to take that chance, why not us? When I hear names like Pulis, MON and Pearson bandied about I'd much rather take a bit of a risk and go with Potter. Very different gravy from where he is Without a doubt and without his Europa League success would be a ridiculous gamble. The Europa success shows how good he is tactically at setting his team up though. There are definitely comparisons to be made between Potter and Roy Hodgson's early career. It's a non starter anyway but I would sooner go this route than employ a Pulis/Pearson/MON/Lambert type manager.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 10:21:09 GMT
Pulis wants Christmas off, according to paper talk this morning. Rangers mentioned with him. Surely that's Stafford Rangers! Lol.
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Post by fentonian on Dec 17, 2017 10:25:35 GMT
Yeah let's get Koeman, that bloke who had an absolute shitter at Everton, who was always on holiday, who made it fairly obvious he couldn't give two hoots about the club and on top of that was on probably 4 million quid a year. Mint idea.
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Post by uttoxeterblue on Dec 17, 2017 10:30:58 GMT
Yeah let's get Koeman, that bloke who had an absolute shitter at Everton, who was always on holiday, who made it fairly obvious he couldn't give two hoots about the club and on top of that was on probably 4 million quid a year. Mint idea. Ss
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Post by efc on Dec 17, 2017 10:50:35 GMT
Koeman was fantastic at Southampton but he never really replicated it at us. His and Walsh's signings in the summer were in the main shite and took us back a bit. I feel he does well at clubs with little expectations like Saints and when in Holland whereas at us and his time at Valencia he seemed to struggle at times although he won a pot there.
He's guanrateed to fall out with some players mind and hes very distant from the club. He was my number 1 choice when Martinez was sacked but his 6 million a year salary was a waste in the end.
Very difficult to judge managers though, Mourinho is a top manager but looked awful in his final season at Chelsea and Silva looked fantastic for Watford but the wheels have since come off (if down to us turning his head or his actual managerial ability I dont know)
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 17, 2017 11:04:21 GMT
Koeman was fantastic at Southampton but he never really replicated it at us. His and Walsh's signings in the summer were in the main shite and took us back a bit. I feel he does well at clubs with little expectations like Saints and when in Holland whereas at us and his time at Valencia he seemed to struggle at times although he won a pot there. He's guanrateed to fall out with some players mind and hes very distant from the club. He was my number 1 choice when Martinez was sacked but his 6 million a year salary was a waste in the end. Very difficult to judge managers though, Mourinho is a top manager but looked awful in his final season at Chelsea and Silva looked fantastic for Watford but the wheels have since come off (if down to us turning his head or his actual managerial ability I dont know) There was a documentary on Koeman over here a few days ago. He’s got more medals tha Eisenhower !!!! His playing honours are very impressive, so from a winning mentality and getting the job done he’s honestly in the elite of the game. At the turn of the millennium it highlighted his league and cup successes with Ajax, followed up a few years later again at PSV with the title. He does TONS of charity and foundation work which is never mentioned. Being honest he came over a bit arrogant but you can’t deny his pedigree. Anyway that was the jist of the programme. Can’t we have Koeman with Graham Potter learning the ropes? 😁
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 17, 2017 11:14:15 GMT
Very different gravy from where he is Without a doubt and without his Europa League success would be a ridiculous gamble. The Europa success shows how good he is tactically at setting his team up though. There are definitely comparisons to be made between Potter and Roy Hodgson's early career. It's a non starter anyway but I would sooner go this route than employ a Pulis/Pearson/MON/Lambert type manager. The chances are we are going to go down no matter who we bring in unless the board are prepared to spend £50m+ in January to bring in 3 or 4 players in key positions, which aint happening is it, either the board shelling out that dollar or sufficiently quality players being prepared to risk it with us? Therefore you can immediately write off the likes of Koeman straight away. Which leaves you with the dregs off the currently unemployed manager-go-round or take a punt on someone like Potter. Now I admit I know nothing about him as a manager but he seems fairly highly rated and is likely to be prepared first to come and second to stick with us and at least try to rebuild following our almost inevitable relegation, unlike any of the bigger names even if we could attract them in the first place. The other alternative (which may be in the boards thinking) is to stick with Hughes (the cheaper option) and then sack him in the summer and recruit a manager to suit our status at that point.
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Post by JetBlack on Dec 17, 2017 11:14:22 GMT
How about Jaap Stam? Reading are playing some decent stuff. His defender knowledge could come in really handily right about now.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 17, 2017 11:17:28 GMT
Koeman was fantastic at Southampton but he never really replicated it at us. His and Walsh's signings in the summer were in the main shite and took us back a bit. I feel he does well at clubs with little expectations like Saints and when in Holland whereas at us and his time at Valencia he seemed to struggle at times although he won a pot there. He's guanrateed to fall out with some players mind and hes very distant from the club. He was my number 1 choice when Martinez was sacked but his 6 million a year salary was a waste in the end. Very difficult to judge managers though, Mourinho is a top manager but looked awful in his final season at Chelsea and Silva looked fantastic for Watford but the wheels have since come off (if down to us turning his head or his actual managerial ability I dont know) There was a documentary on Koeman over here a few days ago. He’s got more medals tha Eisenhower !!!! His playing honours are very impressive, so from a winning mentality and getting the job done he’s honestly in the elite of the game. At the turn of the millennium it highlighted his league and cup successes with Ajax, followed up a few years later again at PSV with the title. He does TONS of charity and foundation work which is never mentioned. Being honest he came over a bit arrogant but you can’t deny his pedigree. Anyway that was the jist of the programme. Can’t we have Koeman with Graham Potter learning the ropes? 😁 We could have Koeman, with a get out clause should we go down, with Potter as his number two prepared to take up the reins next season in the Championship. Sorted.
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Post by Pirate on Dec 17, 2017 11:18:26 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 17, 2017 11:26:40 GMT
He's the only manager we should be looking at. I agree, we need to avoid the usual shower of shite names that get banded about and appoint someone else and Rowett is that manager. 1) He worked wonders at Birmingham in terrible circumstances and got sacked for, erm, well.. I still don't know. 2) He's now at Derby and again doing a very good job but this time with more backing and expectation. Quite Frankly, the Derby job seems to have been a poisoned chalice but he looks more than capable of being the man to get them up, most likely through the play offs. 3) playing style/reputation.. I can't say I've watched much of his teams play BUT I know a Birmingham fan and plenty of pundits in the game who have mentioned the fact he knows how to organise a team defensively. I don't care if it's at the level below, we need someone who has expertise in this area. Basically, it's about time that managers from the Championship and in particularly younger managers like Rowett and Lee Johnson get given opportunities and we should be willing to take the plunge.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 17, 2017 11:32:27 GMT
He's the only manager we should be looking at. I agree, we need to avoid the usual shower of shite names that get banded about and appoint someone else and Rowett is that manager. 1) He worked wonders at Birmingham in terrible circumstances and got sacked for, erm, well.. I still don't know. 2) He's now at Derby and again doing a very good job but this time with more backing and expectation. Quite Frankly, the Derby job seems to have been a poisoned chalice but he looks more than capable of being the man to get them up, most likely through the play offs. 3) playing style/reputation.. I can't say I've watched much of his teams play BUT I know a Birmingham fan and plenty of pundits in the game who have mentioned the fact he knows how to organise a team defensively. I don't care if it's at the level below, we need someone who has expertise in this area. Basically, it's about time that managers from the Championship and in particularly younger managers like Rowett and Lee Johnson get given opportunities and we should be willing to take the plunge. From what I've heard he's a bit route one although not at the Pulis, Allardyce level. But hey beggars can't be choosers at the moment can we?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 17, 2017 11:35:11 GMT
I agree, we need to avoid the usual shower of shite names that get banded about and appoint someone else and Rowett is that manager. 1) He worked wonders at Birmingham in terrible circumstances and got sacked for, erm, well.. I still don't know. 2) He's now at Derby and again doing a very good job but this time with more backing and expectation. Quite Frankly, the Derby job seems to have been a poisoned chalice but he looks more than capable of being the man to get them up, most likely through the play offs. 3) playing style/reputation.. I can't say I've watched much of his teams play BUT I know a Birmingham fan and plenty of pundits in the game who have mentioned the fact he knows how to organise a team defensively. I don't care if it's at the level below, we need someone who has expertise in this area. Basically, it's about time that managers from the Championship and in particularly younger managers like Rowett and Lee Johnson get given opportunities and we should be willing to take the plunge. From what I've heard he's a bit route one although not at the Pulis, Allardyce level. But hey beggars can't be choosers at the moment can we? With the team Derby had out yesterday I'd be surprised if they were route one?!.. but a quicker tempo and getting the ball to the other end of the pitch as quick as possible is everything we aren't right now. Like we're playing in treacle with concrete boots.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 17, 2017 11:37:21 GMT
From what I've heard he's a bit route one although not at the Pulis, Allardyce level. But hey beggars can't be choosers at the moment can we? With the team Derby had out yesterday I'd be surprised if they were route one?!.. but a quicker tempo and getting the ball to the other end of the pitch as quick as possible is everything we aren't right now. Like we're playing in treacle with concrete boots. It's just what my Derby mates have said. Not that they're complaining mind.
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Post by swede on Dec 17, 2017 11:40:22 GMT
Graham Potters Östersund FK play like Arsenal, they have a great fighting spirit that has saved them points in some tough matches against better opponents. He and his family are very happy in Sweden, they have learned the language, kids have started school etc. Potter will stay and make ÖFK champions and get them in the Champions league. That's his goal and I believe he'll make it. He has a bright future, and in a few years he could go to a club like Stoke and rebuild the team for his style and ambition. Sure.
Potter is not an option right now for a PL league club fighting to avoid relegation. Stoke need someone who can keep them up.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 17, 2017 11:58:37 GMT
Who was no1, couldn’t get it to play to the end.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 17, 2017 12:00:17 GMT
Graham Potters Östersund FK play like Arsenal, they have a great fighting spirit that has saved them points in some tough matches against better opponents. He and his family are very happy in Sweden, they have learned the language, kids have started school etc. Potter will stay and make ÖFK champions and get them in the Champions league. That's his goal and I believe he'll make it. He has a bright future, and in a few years he could go to a club like Stoke and rebuild the team for his style and ambition. Sure. Potter is not an option right now for a PL league club fighting to avoid relegation. Stoke need someone who can keep them up. Unless of course the board are prepared to accept relegation as collateral damage in their crusade for self-sufficiency.
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Post by Pirate on Dec 17, 2017 12:01:15 GMT
Who was no1, couldn’t get it to play to the end. In that case your the lucky one, he who shall not be named 11/10
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Dec 17, 2017 12:04:46 GMT
Anyone capable of getting us out of the championship, I honestly think it is going to be too late to turn this round. Can't see us getting more than 38 points.
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Post by thevoid on Dec 17, 2017 12:22:42 GMT
I'm not convinced by Lee Johnson, he seems like a 'streaky manager', a bit like Pardew. When he left Barnsley for Bristol, Barnsley fans were glad to see the back of him as they'd just lost eight games on the trot.
I think Rowett has potential though.
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Post by reddipotter on Dec 17, 2017 12:26:15 GMT
Anyone capable of getting us out of the championship, I honestly think it is going to be too late to turn this round. Can't see us getting more than 38 points. If we had changed manager in the summer we could have gone for a young, forward-thinking man to take us onwards. Now we need a troubleshooter to save us but, assuming they succeed, we wouldn't want that type of manager for very long. So a straightforward decision in May has become a near-impossible one in December.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 12:28:50 GMT
I'd have Rowett or Wilder from the Championship
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Dec 17, 2017 12:30:59 GMT
Anyone capable of getting us out of the championship, I honestly think it is going to be too late to turn this round. Can't see us getting more than 38 points. If we had changed manager in the summer we could have gone for a young, forward-thinking man to take us onwards. Now we need a troubleshooter to save us but, assuming they succeed, we wouldn't want that type of manager for very long. So a straightforward decision in May has become a near-impossible one in December. The frustrating thing is that we got the timing of tp's departure pretty much spot on, we have missed the boat big time with Hughes, should have gone in the summer, can't see the board getting rid now until next summer. The big question is can we survive in the premiership this season.
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Post by miggoscfc on Dec 17, 2017 12:48:38 GMT
Anyone capable of getting us out of the championship, I honestly think it is going to be too late to turn this round. Can't see us getting more than 38 points. Too late ? We are 3 points off 11th. Everton and Crystal palace were in the shit 4 weeks ago so it's no where near too late. If we leave it til this time next month then we might be in a different place.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Dec 17, 2017 12:57:59 GMT
Anyone capable of getting us out of the championship, I honestly think it is going to be too late to turn this round. Can't see us getting more than 38 points. Too late ? We are 3 points off 11th. Everton and Crystal palace were in the shit 4 weeks ago so it's no where near too late. If we leave it til this time next month then we might be in a different place. This isn't just a slump though, it's a sustained period of continual regression in performances and results. I don't think the board will act quickly and decisively meaning going into the transfer window we could well be in the bottom three looking a for a new manager and players to get us out of Hughes mess.
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Post by sharonbeech21 on Dec 17, 2017 14:03:46 GMT
Koeman
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Post by maine on Dec 17, 2017 16:25:26 GMT
Potter would do better taking over the best Stockholm (well Solna) club, AIK and taking them to the Champions league. After that the world could be his oyster. Anyway Sweden is a far saner place to live than the UK right now.
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