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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 12, 2017 23:03:07 GMT
I don't get how it's unlucky if we all knew it was going to happen?
Indeed, the chants in the ground of "You don't know what you're doing" happened whilst it was still 0-0.
And in general this being 1-0 was pretty obvious. Even more so after hitting the post etc. You knew what was coming. Yet the bloke in charge did nothing to try and counter that
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Post by kidcrewbob on Dec 12, 2017 23:08:50 GMT
Had Hughes made the right subs there were 3 points for the taking - Burnley were poor and we gifted them the win through shit managerial decisions and shit defending - not luck at all.....
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Post by kustokie on Dec 12, 2017 23:15:38 GMT
Even Sean Dyche admitted they didn't deserve a win When you down then everything goes against you Worrying thing is that poor defence, no attack, lack of confidence, poor refereeing decisions and plain bad luck = relegation The only plus is that we did look much better. Burnley 4th is a joke though. Whenever anybody mentions the words “lucky” or “unluckily”, I am always reminded of what the late, great Arnold Palmer said on the subject. “It’s funny, the more I practice the luckier I get”. There are no footnotes in the league table such as 4th Burnley* 16th Stoke** *lucky team **unlucky team We lost, end of story.
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Post by pavel on Dec 12, 2017 23:16:26 GMT
I don't get how it's unlucky if we all knew it was going to happen? Yep we could all see it coming, fresh legs on for them when some of ours were running (if that's the word) on empty, and had been for a while. We could all see it and it was written into the script in big bold letters, which were flashing red when he took Shaq off. Unfathomable.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 23:18:54 GMT
You make your own luck and taking your best attacking option off who is the most likely to profit from a lucky incident is just plane bad management.
"I know he's a good general but is he lucky?" ....Napoleon Bonaparte
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Post by BristolMick on Dec 12, 2017 23:31:21 GMT
There were games early in the holocaust season that we were unlucky to lose and it just got worse and worse. We've all seen relegation seasons and this smells like one. The chairman needs to act quick and smart otherwise the rot will set in even more and we will genuinely be doomed. Coates is such a ditherer so slow to act. Off the pitch taking an age to fill in the corner - just in time before we get relegated at this rate, Kept Pulis one season (at least) too long but got away with it, and now he's stuck with Hughes a season too long and we are in serious trouble. No shock to the rest of us though only him! BM
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Post by stokemark on Dec 12, 2017 23:33:19 GMT
Do you know what the worst thing is ?
That team gave their all for the manager tonight - they are simply not good enough and a new manager would take months and around £50m to sort things out - neither of which he will have
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Post by turfite on Dec 12, 2017 23:47:50 GMT
Burnley 4th is a joke though. Not a right funny one. I'm not wanting to rub it in but that's the worst we've played all season, and that's not a joke either.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 12, 2017 23:50:59 GMT
Burnley 4th is a joke though. Not a right funny one. I'm not wanting to rub it in but that's the worst we've played all season, and that's not a joke either. You play like that every week. It's like groundhog day watching Burnley. Enjoy it whilst it lasts because there is no way it can do.
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Post by turfite on Dec 12, 2017 23:52:58 GMT
Not a right funny one. I'm not wanting to rub it in but that's the worst we've played all season, and that's not a joke either. You play like that every week. It's like groundhog day watching Burnley. Enjoy it whilst it lasts because there is no way it can do. Of course the No1 Burnley fan on here would know. Bitter? Mines a pint.
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Post by fca47 on Dec 12, 2017 23:57:03 GMT
It was a crap game, but a win's a win. Slagging Burnley off is petty. If we had won playing badly I would be celebrating.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 23:58:05 GMT
You play like that every week. It's like groundhog day watching Burnley. Enjoy it whilst it lasts because there is no way it can do. Of course the No1 Burnley fan on here would know. Bitter? Mines a pint. The games I’ve seen this season you do generally play like that. Conditions were horrendous tonight so you were probably more route one than normal but the tactics are usually fairly similar. It’s working though so happy days. Not bitter in any way as honestly don’t give two shits about Burnley, enjoy it.......
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 12, 2017 23:58:17 GMT
You play like that every week. It's like groundhog day watching Burnley. Enjoy it whilst it lasts because there is no way it can do. Of course the No1 Burnley fan on here would know. Bitter? Mines a pint. You can soak it up and pretend all you like. You play like that every game and are riding the crest of the wave. You are 4th and your wonderful supporters cant even be arsed to turn up. It cant last and it wont last.
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Post by turfite on Dec 13, 2017 0:05:42 GMT
Your bitterness towards Burnley is highly amusing Dave.
I must say at least you're consistent. Bitter before the game, bitter after it.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 13, 2017 0:10:16 GMT
Your bitterness towards Burnley is highly amusing Dave. I must say at least you're consistent. Bitter before the game, bitter after it. It isn't bitter at all. Burnley is a lovely club and I do a lot of work with all manner of staff from playing staff down. You have a club to be proud of. If, however, you truly believe you are anything other than a very ordinary team that is riding the crest of a wave with huge amounts of good fortune then you, like so many other supporters i know who can't be arsed to go to games, are seriously deluded. Enjoy it whilst it lasts.
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Post by roylandstoke on Dec 13, 2017 0:12:02 GMT
Burnley 4th is a joke though. Not a right funny one. I'm not wanting to rub it in but that's the worst we've played all season, and that's not a joke either. To be fair, the surrenders at Spurs and Man City aside, that's pretty much the worst we've played this season too. It could be argued that we were unlucky tonight, but it isn't bad luck that changes the system every week(sometimes twice a game). It isn't bad luck that the players don't know their own jobs on the field of play. It isn't bad luck that bought an £18M CB who isn't as good as Philipp Wollscheid. Blaming luck, or the weather, or the ref, or the fact that our on loan CB had to be replaced by an £18M CB, and that really hurt our chances just isn't good enough. At some point someone has to take responsibilty and admit that things are far from OK.
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Post by liamo on Dec 13, 2017 0:12:45 GMT
They scored more goals so they won..
We could've taken Crouch off for Choupo, brought Edwards on for Zouma and pushed Cameron in to CB where he's looked solid with Shawcross, unlike my 2nd least favourite Austrian
But no, Hughes leaves it too late and then makes daft subs and we lose, its a common theme this past couple of years
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 13, 2017 0:12:50 GMT
Your bitterness towards Burnley is highly amusing Dave. I must say at least you're consistent. Bitter before the game, bitter after it. It isn't bitter at all. Burnley is a lovely club and I do a lot of work with all manner of staff from playing staff down. You have a club to be proud of. If, however, you truly believe you are anything other than a very ordinary team that is riding the crest of a wave with huge amounts of good fortune then you, like so many other supporters i know who can't be arsed to go to games, are seriously deluded. Enjoy it whilst it lasts.
It's not the club that you actually despise is it Dave, it's the supporters?
You absolutely loath them, don't you?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 13, 2017 0:18:41 GMT
It isn't bitter at all. Burnley is a lovely club and I do a lot of work with all manner of staff from playing staff down. You have a club to be proud of. If, however, you truly believe you are anything other than a very ordinary team that is riding the crest of a wave with huge amounts of good fortune then you, like so many other supporters i know who can't be arsed to go to games, are seriously deluded. Enjoy it whilst it lasts.
It's not the club that you actually despise is it Dave, it's the supporters?
You absolutely loath them, don't you?
Too right. Absolute wankers to a man, including my father in law
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Post by professorplump on Dec 13, 2017 0:39:56 GMT
You make your own luck and taking your best attacking option off who is the most likely to profit from a lucky incident is just plane bad management. "I know he's a good general but is he lucky?" ....Napoleon Bonaparte So how come if he was our best attacking option, he didn't create much for us in the 84 minutes that he was on the pitch. And what makes you think that he would suddenly have won it for us in the last 6?
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Post by roylandstoke on Dec 13, 2017 0:43:40 GMT
You make your own luck and taking your best attacking option off who is the most likely to profit from a lucky incident is just plane bad management. "I know he's a good general but is he lucky?" ....Napoleon Bonaparte So how come if he was our best attacking option, he didn't create much for us in the 84 minutes that he was on the pitch. And what makes you think that he would suddenly have won it for us in the last 6? You don't have to create much to be our best attacking option at the monent.
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 13, 2017 0:44:20 GMT
For the last half an hour of that game our performance was in decline.
I simply dont know how anyone could not see that. Crouch, Fletcher and a couple of others were offering nothing, they were shot, Sobhi disappeared off the face of the earth, we were inviting them on to us, we couldnt keep the ball.
Our best defender got injured which made us more vulnerable.
We had one player who was causing them trouble and the manager decides to take him off with 10+ mins to play just when we had at least 3 players on the pitch who were completely knackered. From that point our midfield crumbled into submission putting extra pressure on a defence which included a RB who hadn't played for weeks and a sub who looks totally out of his depth at this level.
Their manager must have thought it was Xmas!!!
He put on fresh legs on up front and bingo!!!
It was rank bad managing from our side
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 13, 2017 0:47:41 GMT
For the last half an hour of that game our performance was in decline. I simply dont know how anyone could not see that. Crouch, Fletcher and a couple of others were offering nothing, they were shot, Sobhi disappeared off the face of the earth, we were inviting them on to us, we couldnt keep the ball. Our best defender got injured which made us more vulnerable. We had one player who was causing them trouble and the manager decides to take him off with 10+ mins to play just when we had at least 3 players on the pitch who were completely knackered. From that point our midfield crumbled into submission putting extra pressure on a defence which included a RB who hadn't played for weeks and a sub who looks totally out of his depth at this level. Their manager must have thought it was Xmas!!! He put on fresh legs on up front and bingo!!! It was rank bad managing from our side
Perfectly accurate analysis.
The comments from Hughes after the game are embarrassing.
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Post by tobeperfectlyhonest on Dec 13, 2017 0:51:36 GMT
and we are seriously debating holding out for a 0-0 draw at burnley ffs..........get him and his back 3 gone
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Post by StokieNath on Dec 13, 2017 0:54:30 GMT
We fucking lost though didn't we? Hughes Out.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 0:55:33 GMT
Just back, a game we controlled for the majority. We certainly didn’t deserve to lose that game. We were poor, Burnley were even worse but one chance came there way and it’s game over. I would love to know the decision making of Hughes, shaq off?? Why?? And again no 3rd sub
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 13, 2017 0:55:57 GMT
For the last half an hour of that game our performance was in decline. I simply dont know how anyone could not see that. Crouch, Fletcher and a couple of others were offering nothing, they were shot, Sobhi disappeared off the face of the earth, we were inviting them on to us, we couldnt keep the ball. Our best defender got injured which made us more vulnerable. We had one player who was causing them trouble and the manager decides to take him off with 10+ mins to play just when we had at least 3 players on the pitch who were completely knackered. From that point our midfield crumbled into submission putting extra pressure on a defence which included a RB who hadn't played for weeks and a sub who looks totally out of his depth at this level. Their manager must have thought it was Xmas!!! He put on fresh legs on up front and bingo!!! It was rank bad managing from our side
Perfectly accurate analysis.
The comments from Hughes after the game are embarrassing.
I really wish I had not read the post match interview with the manager before my bedtime! As well as embarrassing I would describe them as disturbing.
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Post by kustokie on Dec 13, 2017 1:04:45 GMT
You make your own luck and taking your best attacking option off who is the most likely to profit from a lucky incident is just plane bad management. "I know he's a good general but is he lucky?" ....Napoleon Bonaparte So how come if he was our best attacking option, he didn't create much for us in the 84 minutes that he was on the pitch. And what makes you think that he would suddenly have won it for us in the last 6? Are you Sparky’s mother? There can be no other explanation for that logic (or lack thereof). Taking that to its logical conclusion you would have taken Butland off because he was the least likely to have to created any chances.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 11:57:59 GMT
You make your own luck and taking your best attacking option off who is the most likely to profit from a lucky incident is just plane bad management. "I know he's a good general but is he lucky?" ....Napoleon Bonaparte So how come if he was our best attacking option, he didn't create much for us in the 84 minutes that he was on the pitch. And what makes you think that he would suddenly have won it for us in the last 6? It only take 10 seconds to get the ball beat a defender and lash it in the back of the net and sadly the only player we have who does that is Shaq.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 18:24:47 GMT
The least you can do is keep the ball at the other end of the pitch, especially in the last five minutes. If it means hoofing it up there just do it. They cannot score from their own half. We seem incapable of even doing that!
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