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Post by skemstokie on Dec 10, 2017 12:41:41 GMT
When and where is this going to end,at the moment no-one has a good word for anyone connected with Stoke. The bear pit atmosphere is long gone (unless you play for Stoke) :-Swith insulting abuse thrown at our own players by so called supporters,singing your not fit to wear the shirt is going to achieve fuck all. Get behind the lads and TOGETHER we will get through these troubled times the path many are following will lead us only downhill.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 10, 2017 12:42:47 GMT
Everyone has had enough of the incompetence, the laziness and the complacency.
This has been a long time coming, changes need to be made and they need to be made now.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Dec 10, 2017 12:44:00 GMT
the lads don't really care, that's the point
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Post by GrahamHyde on Dec 10, 2017 12:46:41 GMT
Agreed, Vis Unita Fortoir, United Strength is Stronger.
We somehow seem to have stepped away from that motto.
I understand that emotions were high among some of the supporters last night but the reaction towards the players, in particular the likes of Jack Butland, is unacceptable in my opinion. Before a busy Xmas period we need to galvanise the players - although that should be Hughes' job - not antagonise and demotivate them.
We're still outside of the relegation zone and have some winnable games coming up.
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Post by malteser68 on Dec 10, 2017 12:46:44 GMT
When and where is this going to end,at the moment no-one has a good word for anyone connected with Stoke. The bear pit atmosphere is long gone (unless you play for Stoke) :-Swith insulting abuse thrown at our own players by so called supporters,singing your not fit to wear the shirt is going to achieve fuck all. Get behind the lads and TOGETHER we will get through these troubled times the path many are following will lead us only downhill. I disagree Should have been done much earlier The fans have been very merciful to endure the countless humiliations in silence While Coates looks on merrily coz all he cares is fir 'self sufficiency' so he wont have to spend any of his billions on the club I say most of the players deserve to be told 'you're not fit to wear the shirt' and the board et al should be told to fuck off as well
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Post by malteser68 on Dec 10, 2017 12:48:06 GMT
Agreed, Vis Unita Fortoir, United Strength is Stronger. We somehow seem to have stepped away from that motto. I understand that emotions were high among some of the supporters last night but the reaction towards the players, in particular the likes of Jack Butland, is unacceptable in my opinion. Before a busy Xmas period we need to galvanise the players - although that should be Hughes' job - not antagonise and demotivate them. We're still outside of the relegation zone and have some winnable games coming up. How many more trashings and gash performances are you willing to endure before the necessary changes are made ??!!! Enough is enough is fuckin enough no more of this shit
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Post by wuzza on Dec 10, 2017 12:48:37 GMT
When and where is this going to end,at the moment no-one has a good word for anyone connected with Stoke. The bear pit atmosphere is long gone (unless you play for Stoke) :-Swith insulting abuse thrown at our own players by so called supporters,singing your not fit to wear the shirt is going to achieve fuck all. Get behind the lads and TOGETHER we will get through these troubled times the path many are following will lead us only downhill. Things need shaking up (and have done for ages). It’s a crude way of doing it but if it has the effect of making SCFC realise that what’s been going is not acceptable (and plenty in the club seem to think things are by and large ok) then it serves a purpose.
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Post by crownmeking on Dec 10, 2017 12:49:11 GMT
I don't think it is true to say the lads don't care to be honest. But it is clearly not good enough, and the fans have every right to be angry and show their displeasure. I hate booing our own team or individual players, but collectively, they deserved what they got at the train station.
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Post by Beloved Monkfish on Dec 10, 2017 12:51:38 GMT
When and where is this going to end,at the moment no-one has a good word for anyone connected with Stoke. The bear pit atmosphere is long gone (unless you play for Stoke) :-Swith insulting abuse thrown at our own players by so called supporters,singing your not fit to wear the shirt is going to achieve fuck all. Get behind the lads and TOGETHER we will get through these troubled times the path many are following will lead us only downhill. But 'getting behind them' is clearly having no effect. This isn't a blip or a short run of bad luck, this is 2 years of complete and utter dross. Every fan wants to get behind the team, but 'the team' (and I use that term very loosely) are making it very hard for any of us to do that. It starts with the manager who should be instilling some sort of organisation, fitness and ideas into them. No amount of 'Oh when the reds' or 'Delilah' will get us out of our current predicament; sacking the manager hopefully will.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Dec 10, 2017 12:52:48 GMT
Agreed, Vis Unita Fortoir, United Strength is Stronger. We somehow seem to have stepped away from that motto. I understand that emotions were high among some of the supporters last night but the reaction towards the players, in particular the likes of Jack Butland, is unacceptable in my opinion. Before a busy Xmas period we need to galvanise the players - although that should be Hughes' job - not antagonise and demotivate them. We're still outside of the relegation zone and have some winnable games coming up. How many more trashings and gash performances are you willing to endure before the necessary changes are made ??!!! Enough is enough is fuckin enough no more of this shit There's a difference between wanting the manager out of the door and actively chanting at the players themselves at the train station. Make no mistake, I want Hughes out, but that isn't conditional to chanting abuse at the players.
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Post by stokemark on Dec 10, 2017 12:52:57 GMT
I actually think the fans have been remarkably patient given the last 18 months of results and rather pitiful levels of investment / general interest demonstrated by the owners
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 10, 2017 12:53:19 GMT
WE all would prefer to be happily supporting the team and be content BUT when you are on a run as bad as this what can really be expected??
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Post by skemstokie on Dec 10, 2017 12:56:23 GMT
When and where is this going to end,at the moment no-one has a good word for anyone connected with Stoke. The bear pit atmosphere is long gone (unless you play for Stoke) :-Swith insulting abuse thrown at our own players by so called supporters,singing your not fit to wear the shirt is going to achieve fuck all. Get behind the lads and TOGETHER we will get through these troubled times the path many are following will lead us only downhill. But 'getting behind them' is clearly having no effect. This isn't a blip or a short run of bad luck, this is 2 years of complete and utter dross. Every fan wants to get behind the team, but 'the team' (and I use that term very loosely) are making it very hard for any of us to do that. It starts with the manager who should be instilling some sort of organisation, fitness and ideas into them. No amount of 'Oh when the reds' or 'Delilah' will get us out of our current predicament; sacking the manager hopefully will. And how many choruses of "your not fit to wear the shirt"will get us out of our current predicament.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 12:59:44 GMT
WE all would prefer to be happily supporting the team and be content BUT when you are on a run as bad as this what can really be expected?? REVOLUTION!
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Post by westgatelakes on Dec 10, 2017 13:00:54 GMT
The manager is the problem not the players. Abusing players will only succeed in them downing tools and us getting relegated which, as Sunderland are finding out, would be catastrophic.
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Post by mozzer on Dec 10, 2017 13:09:57 GMT
When and where is this going to end,at the moment no-one has a good word for anyone connected with Stoke. The bear pit atmosphere is long gone (unless you play for Stoke) :-Swith insulting abuse thrown at our own players by so called supporters,singing your not fit to wear the shirt is going to achieve fuck all. Get behind the lads and TOGETHER we will get through these troubled times the path many are following will lead us only downhill. I agree with these sentiments if this was at the start of last season 15/16 after such a shit end to 14/15 and the crap pre season that followed, unfortunately the club has spiralled into self destruct because we have carried them sentiments through last season and in to this season, the time you call for has been and gone, chances have been given, we have painted bad times in to good times and still we clapped and gave our support whilst talking of dismay in very quite voices, unfortunately for the majority of the crowd including me these times seem to be over, quite voices have gone only to be replaced by loud shouts, the time for patience has been and gone, unfortunately the board were slow to react and gave their blessing for another 12 months, the time for change has also possibly gone so we could possibly be royally fucked if we do or we don't, for the board you reap what you sow, they gave him another season knowing as we did what was going on and the downwards direction that he was taking us, I am not scared of relegation, I would prefer to be in the Premier league but if we go down so what, I am still Stoke and always will be, the problem is the championship sides we have played of late looked better than us, if we do go down we will not have it all our own way and we may never get back to where we are now. As I say, I am not scared of being relegated I will still have my afternoon out.........but I know 100% sure who will be scared of relegation and what it means to SCFC......or more importantly Bet365s world wide brand exposure for basically fuck all cost.
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Dec 10, 2017 14:02:56 GMT
I'm sorry but it's gone beyond "getting behind the lads" and pulling together. We are staring relegation in the face now, and scraping the odd scrappy win but the same pronlems we saw apoearing 18 months ago are staring us in the face. We have a manager that stubbornly persists with a system that even my 8 year old can see doesn't work, we haven't addressed key areas in numerous transfer Windows, we play players out of position, we can't defend, our manager wasted 18 million on the useless Imbula and Wimmer each. I could go on but it depresses me. Pull together and get behind him? No thanks. We need him gone before we go down to the championship with a pathetic whimper.
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Dec 10, 2017 14:06:56 GMT
I actually think the fans have been remarkably patient given the last 18 months of results and rather pitiful levels of investment / general interest demonstrated by the owners Patient? More like resigned, no?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 15:52:49 GMT
Bojan has it right!
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Post by loosestools on Dec 10, 2017 15:59:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 16:01:20 GMT
Im surprised anyone else would be surprised at the amount of bitching and sniping given, what we've had to witness
now for the thick end of 2 seasons without hardly any question and without respite
without hardly a whimper, hardly a murmuor
and the band plays on in first class completely oblivious as, the deck begins to tilt and the deckchairs come sliding past
as we sleepwalk into relegation
and the fans - care - they really do
and last seasons 'lap of honour '- spoke volumes to everybody who witnessed such a stark reality except seemingly, those that own and manage the football club
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Post by parsonage1955 on Dec 10, 2017 16:06:22 GMT
We used to take much pleasure ftom Arsenal's lack of spine. We supporters are turning into what we once condemned them for.
As a general rule football supporters have a choice between following one of the successful clubs or following your local team who then provide you with a lifetime of disappointment and frustration (and occasional great joy). It's to the credit of those who do. But let's not have any illusions, this is reality.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 16:08:37 GMT
'piss weak' to have a go at the support
we are watching total crap --lets face it
we are so open - home or away its not true
and even when we go in front against the poorer teams we fall back becasue team confidence in the squad and the system is absolutely shot
and, the way we are sleepwalking into disaster would surely, dis-hearten the staunchest of support at any, repeat, ANY football club
we are proven to be no worse - no better than anybody else ( IMHO)
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Post by stokemark on Dec 10, 2017 16:14:55 GMT
We used to take much pleasure ftom Arsenal's lack of spine. We supporters are turning into what we once condemned them for. As a general rule football supporters have a choice between following one of the successful clubs or following your local team who then provide you with a lifetime of disappointment and frustration (and occasional great joy). It's to the credit of those who do. But let's not have any illusions, this is reality. What is reality ? In the overall context then of course it's going to be a mixed bag but does that mean we just all sit there quietly and watch it happen ? I supported Stoke at most matches home and away between 1985 and 2008 and don't want to see those days return simply because it's the way of things
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 10, 2017 16:25:26 GMT
Quite the opposite I feel. A large majority of the fans have been very fucking patient with Mark Hughes.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 10, 2017 16:45:28 GMT
When and where is this going to end,at the moment no-one has a good word for anyone connected with Stoke. The bear pit atmosphere is long gone (unless you play for Stoke) :-Swith insulting abuse thrown at our own players by so called supporters,singing your not fit to wear the shirt is going to achieve fuck all. Get behind the lads and TOGETHER we will get through these troubled times the path many are following will lead us only downhill. I absolutely get where you are coming from = but the situation is now toxic and irretrievable. The fans are going to take us down bitching and complaining that it's the managers fault, the players fault, the boards fault - anybodies fault apart from their own. The calls for Hughes's head seems to imply the supporters are united - they aren't. Some want a manager who will play youth, some want experience, some want a British manager, some want a foreign manager, some want us to play expansive football, some want us to go defensive, some supporters are pragmatic, some unrealistic and some completely barking. Some actually want Pulis back. If we get a new manager the fan base will be as divided as ever - and if Pulis were to return far more than they are now. Should we get a new manager we'll have the stomach churning posts from the leading shit stirrers telling everyone to get behind the new man - the very posters who'll be the first to stick the knife in if everything doesn't match up to their particular fantasy. Scratch the surface and the supporters are completely disunited. The most sickening part is the martrydom - the poor undeserving fans being given hell by a bunch of players/manger/owner who don't deserve to wear the shirt. When things get tough you pull together- but its not going to happen. If people want to know who really don't deserve to wear the shirt they should start by looking in the mirror. I absolutely get the sentiment of your post and I wish it would happen, The sad fact is it won't. The Premier League dream is over - its turned into a nightmare of ego trips, bleating and bile, if we are heading for demotion it will be as an irrevocably broken and disunited club.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 16:48:23 GMT
Loyalty to the club is not in doubt and will endure.
What is currently in doubt is blind obsequiousness to a hapless bungling buffoon who, despite a sizzling start, has completely lost his way over the last two years.
The fans have every right to dissent and express their cumulative dissatisfaction, just so long as it is within the bounds of decency
The club will outlive us all but all we ask is someone to make a decision to end this calamitous tenure in order to preserve our current status
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Post by skemstokie on Dec 10, 2017 17:34:40 GMT
Loyalty to the club is not in doubt and will endure. What is currently in doubt is blind obsequiousness to a hapless bungling buffoon who, despite a sizzling start, has completely lost his way over the last two years. The fans have every right to dissent and express their cumulative dissatisfaction, just so long as it is within the bounds of decency The club will outlive us all but all we ask is someone to make a decision to end this calamitous tenure in order to preserve our current status Depends on "bounds of decency" which to a section of supporter`s is way too low for me, to verbally abuse someone who is not in a position to respond is beyond my comprehension.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 17:39:56 GMT
You're having a go at some people who have been following the club for years. This team is diabolical.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 10, 2017 17:53:54 GMT
Loyalty to the club is not in doubt and will endure. What is currently in doubt is blind obsequiousness to a hapless bungling buffoon who, despite a sizzling start, has completely lost his way over the last two years. The fans have every right to dissent and express their cumulative dissatisfaction, just so long as it is within the bounds of decency The club will outlive us all but all we ask is someone to make a decision to end this calamitous tenure in order to preserve our current status I completely agree with you about the right to dissent and to express dissatisfaction. However I think some of it has already gone beyond the bounds of decency. Hughes isn't perfect and he's made some mistakes - as have the players. However none of them deserve the abuse they've received on here and elsewhere. The club will outlive us - I just think we've been spoiled by success and lost that sense of decency. I hope it can get it back - I just don't see it at the moment - although your balanced and fair post shows it can be done.
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