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Post by AlbertTatlock on Dec 8, 2017 12:45:01 GMT
(or Russian or Yanks or ANother) And would you want them? Gouranga.  |
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Post by lordb on Dec 8, 2017 12:48:27 GMT
I want John Coates to take over & hopefully have a more flexible approach,e.g. appointing a foreign manager.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 8, 2017 12:51:04 GMT
As I posted a couple of months a go they’ve already had some tentative enquiries from the Chinese and met with their representatives but “the family” decided against selling.
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Post by alster on Dec 8, 2017 12:59:23 GMT
(or Russian or Yanks or ANother) And would you want them? Gouranga. If it was an investor with massive wealth that they were willing to invest to have us challenging for a European slot or Champions league even then definitely yes. Not some person or consortium who might be able to scrape enough money together to buy us then laden us with that debt, though that's what the Glazer's did and it doesn't seem to have harmed Man Utd too much financially but they have much much stronger commercial incomes. |
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Dec 8, 2017 13:08:43 GMT
As I posted a couple of months a go they’ve already had some tentative enquiries from the Chinese and met with their representatives but “the family” decided against selling. Apparently - someone in the media did some digging into who actually owns AC Milan recently. The trail ended in a filing cabinet in a windowless office in Beijing. We really don't want to be going down the route of faceless, soulless remote owners. Or singularly egotistical oligarchs. |
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Post by Northy on Dec 8, 2017 13:13:58 GMT
Which Coates do you mean ? I'm sure Denise would, she's a bit down on her luck at the moment  |
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Post by redstriper on Dec 8, 2017 13:14:24 GMT
Why would he, not as if he needs the cash.
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Post by alster on Dec 8, 2017 13:39:08 GMT
As I posted a couple of months a go they’ve already had some tentative enquiries from the Chinese and met with their representatives but “the family” decided against selling. Apparently - someone in the media did some digging into who actually owns AC Milan recently. The trail ended in a filing cabinet in a windowless office in Beijing. We really don't want to be going down the route of faceless, soulless remote owners. Or singularly egotistical oligarchs. If they're willing to plough money into the club why does it matter who they are or whether they are egotistical. I don't care where they come from or what sort of personality they have whether they're nice or whether they're on an ego trip if they have the money and are willing to chuck it at the club who cares. I bet Man City fans lie awake at night because they're owned by Arabs. |
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Post by westgatelakes on Dec 8, 2017 13:44:14 GMT
Wolves seem to be doing ok after being taken over by chinese
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Post by rawli on Dec 8, 2017 13:48:15 GMT
If everyone's owned by a foreign billionaire willing to plough cash in, we'll all be back to square one won't we?
If I was in that position there is no way on earth I'd buy Stoke - unfashionable, not much potential in terms of crowds, not in a big city, no past glory to trade on.
I'd buy Leeds or Newcastle.
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Post by alster on Dec 8, 2017 13:54:55 GMT
Wolves seem to be doing ok after being taken over by chinese Plenty of clubs do just fine with foreign owners. For every one they name that's been bad there are 2 or 3 that have been good. Coates' self sufficiency model is going to be very limiting it would be better to get someone who was willing to invest to try to push us forward. |
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Post by chigstoke on Dec 8, 2017 14:09:08 GMT
I want John Coates to take over & hopefully have a more flexible approach,e.g. appointing a foreign manager. I think this will almost definitely happen in the next few years. Agree R.E flexible approach, would be nice, and keeps the club in the family |
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Post by thebet365 on Dec 8, 2017 14:10:48 GMT
I can't see them selling up for many years yet, It's almost like a hobby than a Job to them now. Granola |
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Post by Veritas on Dec 8, 2017 15:36:49 GMT
(or Russian or Yanks or ANother) And would you want them? Gouranga. I don't think they would sell and I wouldn't want them to however much the Chinese or whoever were promising to invest |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2017 15:39:40 GMT
The Chinese can stay in China.
They ruin pretty much everything they touch.
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Post by lordb on Dec 8, 2017 16:31:19 GMT
The Chinese can stay in China. They ruin pretty much everything they touch. Unlike the English who are admired the world over😁 |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Dec 8, 2017 16:39:18 GMT
Anyone fancying Chinese ownership needs to be careful what they wish for. Everything coming out of China has to be sanctioned from the top which is fine so long as everything is going swimmingly. But the minute Xi decides he wants the cash to build a new steel works rather than frittring it away on football then those clubs owned by the Chinese will be in for a torrid time.
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Post by kustokie on Dec 8, 2017 16:47:52 GMT
The Chinese can stay in China. They ruin pretty much everything they touch. Unlike the English who are admired the world over😁 And the Russians. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2017 16:47:54 GMT
I want John Coates to take over & hopefully have a more flexible approach,e.g. appointing a foreign manager. I’m not getting all this love in with a foreign manager. Granted some have been successful, but you take the same inherent risks as you do with foreign players i.e. Imbula, Wimmer, Wollschied etc We would all have fallen over ourselves for AVB, but look where his stock is now. I agree with a more flexible approach, and if the right manager is foreign, so be it, but let’s not make it the be all and end all. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 8, 2017 16:48:13 GMT
I want John Coates to take over & hopefully have a more flexible approach,e.g. appointing a foreign manager. I’m not getting all this love in with a foreign manager. Granted some have been successful, but you take the same inherent risks as you do with foreign players i.e. Imbula, Wimmer. We would all have fallen over ourselves for AVB, but look where his stock is now. I agree with a more flexible approach, and if the right manager is foreign, so be it, but let’s not make it the be all and end all. All those British managers are so good |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2017 16:51:24 GMT
I’m not getting all this love in with a foreign manager. Granted some have been successful, but you take the same inherent risks as you do with foreign players i.e. Imbula, Wimmer. We would all have fallen over ourselves for AVB, but look where his stock is now. I agree with a more flexible approach, and if the right manager is foreign, so be it, but let’s not make it the be all and end all. All those British managers are so good Where did I say that? I said when we appoint, make sure we make the right choice. |
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Post by danceswithclams on Dec 8, 2017 16:52:26 GMT
The Chinese can stay in China. They ruin pretty much everything they touch. Find a better takeaway. |
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Post by kustokie on Dec 8, 2017 16:56:01 GMT
The Chinese can stay in China. They ruin pretty much everything they touch. Such as? |
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Post by lordb on Dec 8, 2017 17:08:39 GMT
I want John Coates to take over & hopefully have a more flexible approach,e.g. appointing a foreign manager. I’m not getting all this love in with a foreign manager. Granted some have been successful, but you take the same inherent risks as you do with foreign players i.e. Imbula, Wimmer, Wollschied etc We would all have fallen over ourselves for AVB, but look where his stock is now. I agree with a more flexible approach, and if the right manager is foreign, so be it, but let’s not make it the be all and end all. Agreed however I think Coates senior 100% won't appoint someone with no management experience in the Premier League & whilst that view isn't baseless it does seem to be limiting. |
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Post by Boothen on Dec 8, 2017 17:41:10 GMT
If it comes down to it, then I'd much rather the Chinese take over than the criminal Russians or the dirty Arabs.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 8, 2017 17:44:08 GMT
The Chinese can stay in China. They ruin pretty much everything they touch. Find a better takeaway. Indian all day every day. |
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Post by mattador78 on Dec 8, 2017 17:47:27 GMT
The Chinese can stay in China. They ruin pretty much everything they touch. Such as? Communism! Their standards are shocking compared to their glorious communist neighbors the North Koreans |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 8, 2017 17:51:29 GMT
If it comes down to it, then I'd much rather the Chinese take over than the criminal Russians or the dirty Arabs. Let me guess - you drive an Austin Allegro? Personally I'm proud of the fact that we have a local owner who genuinely cares about the club and the locality and want it to stay that way, However there are some decent foreign owners out there - as well as some total arseholes. The issue is what happens when it goes wrong. I believe the Coates family would continue to invest while a foreign owner is more likely to sell up to the first bidder - and when things go wrong we could well be looking at a bunch of asset strippers and the death of the club. |
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 8, 2017 17:57:57 GMT
If it comes down to it, then I'd much rather the Chinese take over than the criminal Russians or the dirty Arabs. Let me guess - you drive an Austin Allegro? Personally I'm proud of the fact that we have a local owner who genuinely cares about the club and the locality and want it to stay that way, However there are some decent foreign owners out there - as well as some total arseholes. The issue is what happens when it goes wrong. I believe the Coates family would continue to invest while a foreign owner is more likely to sell up to the first bidder - and when things go wrong we could well be looking at a bunch of asset strippers and the death of the club. There are good and bad owners, whether foreign or British. |
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Post by Miles Offside on Dec 8, 2017 18:15:27 GMT
As I posted a couple of months a go they’ve already had some tentative enquiries from the Chinese and met with their representatives but “the family” decided against selling. , then the fact that the owners met with the Chinese, rather than immediately dismissing their approach, says something about the way they see the club. |
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