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Post by cousindupree on Dec 6, 2017 19:12:29 GMT
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Post by StokieNath on Dec 6, 2017 19:13:10 GMT
A walking sicknote.
No thanks
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 6, 2017 19:24:08 GMT
I’d rather sharpen the guillotine blade before my own execution.
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Post by essexstokey on Dec 6, 2017 19:35:08 GMT
Was thinking the same myself after his 2 goals against us the other night
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Post by nonameface on Dec 6, 2017 19:35:40 GMT
Was a good player and may be a good player again, but then we have BerAhino and Jese already who are the same. We've then got Ngoy and Campbell who can sit on the bench and not be used just how the others aren't, really we need to lose Jese our Berahino before taking another striker on.
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Post by rawli on Dec 6, 2017 19:35:55 GMT
Yes from me.
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 6, 2017 19:38:09 GMT
The problem isn't the personnel. The problem is the formation and tactics. Stick Ings in and keep playing the same way, we will have yet another non-scoring forward.
Change how we play first and try to get the best out of the players we have... If that doesn't work, by all means sign another striker. Otherwise we'll just be pissing more money up the wall.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 6, 2017 19:40:44 GMT
If he’s good as new he’s the kind of striker we need.
Two huge injuries make him a big gamble though.
Would sooner Slimani still.
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Post by jezzascfc on Dec 6, 2017 19:48:59 GMT
Agreed that the formation needs to be more striker friendly, whoever that striker may be. If we play 343 or 4231, we have to get more bodies up in support of the striker, whether from central midfield or cutting in from out wide. 442 gives us that, but exposes the central two more defensively (especially if the wide men are less inclined to track back and defend, such as Choupo and Shaq). 4231 provides the best balance IMHO, if we field two holding players in the middle and Joe Allen in front of them, who will cover plenty of grass going forward and tracking back.
As for Ings, it would be another wing and a prayer signing given his recent injury record. In January we need someone to hit the ground running, not hobbling, but maybe a summer bid could be a better option, if he stays fit and we can get a good pre-season into him.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 19:56:50 GMT
I'd actually take him I think
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 6, 2017 19:57:50 GMT
If he’s good as new he’s the kind of striker we need. Two huge injuries make him a big gamble though. Would sooner Slimani still. How do you arrive at the comment "he's the kind of striker we need"? What attributes does he have that make him the right one for us? |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 6, 2017 20:02:54 GMT
If he’s good as new he’s the kind of striker we need. Two huge injuries make him a big gamble though. Would sooner Slimani still. How do you arrive at the comment "he's the kind of striker we need"? What attributes does he have that make him the right one for us? He's good in the air, he can hold the ball up, he can play as a lone striker. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 6, 2017 20:14:17 GMT
How do you arrive at the comment "he's the kind of striker we need"? What attributes does he have that make him the right one for us? He's good in the air, he can hold the ball up, he can play as a lone striker. Really? If you asked him directly what his qualities are, he wouldn't say any of those things. He's nowhere near 6ft and he's about 11 stone wet through. Good in the air is quite laughable to be frank. Edit - at his best for Burnley, his strike partner was Sam Vokes and they played very much as a 2 most of the time. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 6, 2017 20:20:24 GMT
How do you arrive at the comment "he's the kind of striker we need"? What attributes does he have that make him the right one for us? He's good in the air, he can hold the ball up, he can play as a lone striker. It's only his injury record that puts me off, I like him as a player. He's in the Austin and Callum Wilson mould, very risky, but very good. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 6, 2017 20:22:27 GMT
He's good in the air, he can hold the ball up, he can play as a lone striker. Really? If you asked him directly what his qualities are, he wouldn't say any of those things. He's nowhere near 6ft and he's about 11 stone wet through. Good in the air is quite laughable to be frank. Edit - at his best for Burnley, his strike partner was Sam Vokes and they played very much as a 2 most of the time. If you ask Alex Oxlade Chamberlain what his best position is, he'll say central midfielder. If you ask Theo Walcott what his best position is, he'll say striker... You don't have to be 6ft5 to be good in the air. Fair point about him working best in a two with Vokes, had forgotten that. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 6, 2017 20:22:44 GMT
He's good in the air, he can hold the ball up, he can play as a lone striker. Really? If you asked him directly what his qualities are, he wouldn't say any of those things. He's nowhere near 6ft and he's about 11 stone wet through. Good in the air is quite laughable to be frank. Edit - at his best for Burnley, his strike partner was Sam Vokes and they played very much as a 2 most of the time. In that case, he's ideal for Hughes. He thrives on buying strikers who are better in a 2, and plays them in a 1! |
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 6, 2017 20:27:28 GMT
For his lack of height (5ft 10) he's scored 5 of his 13 premier league goals with his head. The other 8 are split equally between both feet so stats wise he seems a good all-round finisher. Can't say I've ever paid him much attention thoug so wouldn't have a clue what system would suit him best. Is he pacy?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 6, 2017 20:29:07 GMT
Really? If you asked him directly what his qualities are, he wouldn't say any of those things. He's nowhere near 6ft and he's about 11 stone wet through. Good in the air is quite laughable to be frank. Edit - at his best for Burnley, his strike partner was Sam Vokes and they played very much as a 2 most of the time. If you ask Alex Oxlade Chamberlain what his best position is, he'll say central midfielder. If you ask Theo Walcott what his best position is, he'll say striker... You don't have to be 6ft5 to be good in the air. Fair point about him working best in a two with Vokes, had forgotten that. Pace, movement and slight of foot were his best attributes pre injury. I've just fired up my laptop and when his bed was pressure mapped for him by us, he weighed 11st 2 and was 5ft 10". I'd be interested to see his weight now, 2 years on. I bet he's bulked up following injury and I bet his slight of foot and speed have suffered as a result. If we were interested (and Hughes has been before) he'd be a huge gamble. One thing he is though is a nice bloke and good character. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 6, 2017 20:38:01 GMT
If you ask Alex Oxlade Chamberlain what his best position is, he'll say central midfielder. If you ask Theo Walcott what his best position is, he'll say striker... You don't have to be 6ft5 to be good in the air. Fair point about him working best in a two with Vokes, had forgotten that. Pace, movement and slight of foot were his best attributes pre injury. I've just fired up my laptop and when his bed was pressure mapped for him by us, he weighed 11st 2 and was 5ft 10". I'd be interested to see his weight now, 2 years on. I bet he's bulked up following injury and I bet his slight of foot and speed have suffered as a result. If we were interested (and Hughes has been before) he'd be a huge gamble. One thing he is though is a nice bloke and good character. Being totally honest, Dave, I thought he was bigger than that! I would have guessed 12 stone at least. It's that long since I saw him play, though! |
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Post by supacoopa101 on Dec 6, 2017 20:41:31 GMT
But how much of the player that Liverpool signed is still there?
Would be very much a gamble especially at the price I'd imagine Liverpool would ask for
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Post by Fred Merger on Dec 6, 2017 20:41:45 GMT
Wouldn't we be better using a loan slot for a wing back or full back by trying to offer someone like Luke Shaw for example some regular game time before a world cup or even a central midfielder,as scoring goals has not been so much of an issue this season so far its keeping the buggars out!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 6, 2017 20:44:40 GMT
Wouldn't we be better using a loan slot for a wing back or full back by trying to offer someone like Luke Shaw for example some regular game time before a world cup or even a central midfielder,as scoring goals has not been so much of an issue this season so far its keeping the buggars out! A full back yes, Luke Shaw I'd be a bit worried about. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 6, 2017 21:09:04 GMT
Wouldn't we be better using a loan slot for a wing back or full back by trying to offer someone like Luke Shaw for example some regular game time before a world cup or even a central midfielder,as scoring goals has not been so much of an issue this season so far its keeping the buggars out! A full back yes, Luke Shaw I'd be a bit worried about. Played quite well last night, Tox, overall. Still looks stout, though. |
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Post by lichfieldboy on Dec 6, 2017 21:29:34 GMT
Was thinking the same myself after his 2 goals against us the other night I'm not sure I'd read much into that. One was a penalty and the other a rebound from a penalty playing against an u23's back 4 of 3 teenagers and a 20 year old. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 6, 2017 21:36:38 GMT
A full back yes, Luke Shaw I'd be a bit worried about. Played quite well last night, Tox, overall. Still looks stout, though. Dead rubber against a poor side though Tricky. Huge question marks over his attitude. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 6, 2017 21:37:54 GMT
Played quite well last night, Tox, overall. Still looks stout, though. Dead rubber against a poor side though Tricky. Huge question marks over his attitude. Fair points. |
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Post by PotterLog on Dec 6, 2017 21:38:16 GMT
Leslie should not be allowed to sign any more strikers, basically ever. So no.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 6, 2017 21:55:20 GMT
We can't keep players like him fit.
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Post by rrrrleek on Dec 6, 2017 22:12:52 GMT
Crap
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Post by chigstoke on Dec 6, 2017 23:51:59 GMT
Now if ever there was an insightful comment on the ability of Danny Ings it's this, well thought out |
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