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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 11:37:16 GMT
Stage 9 to Gran Sasso and Froome has cracked on the final climb with all the young riders really cranking up the pace. Chaves, Yates, Carapaz, Pinot, Pozzovivo in a group of 11 riders - wow it's a real slug fest ! Yates timed it perfectly and grabs the win ! Froome going backwards and comes in 1 min 7 seconds further back. What a stage ! That was a great finish to Stage 9. Busy on Sunday so didn't get to watch it on the day, saved it for yesterday which fit in well with the rest day. Just started to watch the last 35km again for the 3rd time! Yates played that perfectly, the moment he took the front you just see the look on his face and he knows the stage is his. Still far too early to predict whether this is the demise of Froome at all. He is not as familiar with Italy as he is France and Spain, and there were stages in both TdF and VaE where he went backwards on the hill finishes only to recover. TdF will be the determining factor for him - assuming: 1) He isn't banned; and 2) Do Team Sky take him as the chosen son (to use a Carlton Kirlby phrase). Will they allow Thomas or Kwiatkowski to go for it instead? For the TdF I think if Froome isn't banned then Sky will take him as their leader but will have G and Kwiato in reserve just in case it all goes pear shaped early on for Froome. I think he's too far back in the Giro to be able to recover and the other riders will just mark him if he does try to make a move. Time is moving on and he does need to regain some time pretty soon in relation to Dumoulin as Froome won't take minutes out of him on the ITT. Should be an interesting race !
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 17:21:26 GMT
That was a great finish to Stage 9. Busy on Sunday so didn't get to watch it on the day, saved it for yesterday which fit in well with the rest day. Just started to watch the last 35km again for the 3rd time! Yates played that perfectly, the moment he took the front you just see the look on his face and he knows the stage is his. Still far too early to predict whether this is the demise of Froome at all. He is not as familiar with Italy as he is France and Spain, and there were stages in both TdF and VaE where he went backwards on the hill finishes only to recover. TdF will be the determining factor for him - assuming: 1) He isn't banned; and 2) Do Team Sky take him as the chosen son (to use a Carlton Kirlby phrase). Will they allow Thomas or Kwiatkowski to go for it instead? Yes, great finish for Yates, he's still got the legs and his tactics were indeed, perfect. We've seen Froome come back from the dead on many occasions, but he looks beaten to me. It's likely that the GC riders will have reached the same conclusion, but you can bet that they will try to nullify any serious attempt Froome may have to regain position. I'm not sure where Yates is in terms of his development, he's looking spectacular at the moment, much in the way that Chavez did a couple of years ago in Spain before he faded. For me the race is still about Tom Domoulin, but if Yates continues to nibble out more time on the mountain stages, then Tom is going to have to start marking Yates and that might then release Chavez. Shaping up quite nicely! Too far behind for the GC here. He didn't really look in good shape on Stage 9 either and I'd wondered before about the support from the Peleton and there certainly seems to be a colder shoulder to him. I think it's great for the sport though that his under performance isn't overshadowing things. That was always a risk, but as you say, it is shaping up quite nicely after the Israel snoozefest! Tomorrow could be interesting, but Stage 14 most likely to be the next big shakeup
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Post by dutchstokie on May 16, 2018 20:00:26 GMT
Pointless sport..... theyre all cheats
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on May 17, 2018 11:29:34 GMT
Pointless sport..... theyre all cheats I could say the same about any elite sport.
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Post by salopstick on May 19, 2018 15:11:27 GMT
Stunning climb in progress
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Post by thepremierbanksy on May 19, 2018 21:12:25 GMT
Wow that was a bit good. Gap between Yates and Dumoulin about what I expected but never thought Froome would take the stage, well done to him.
Reckon tomorrow may well see bigger gaps than today, they'll be toasted after that.
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Post by Clem Fandango on May 20, 2018 7:21:21 GMT
Absolutely cracking stage. Really enjoyed it. Yates is looking so strong.
Looking forward to today’s stage the profile looks very tasty and could be fireworks from the off.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 16:11:18 GMT
I'm actually on holiday in Italy this week and have so far not seen any of the coverage ! Got it all recorded for when I get homeon Wednesday though so looking forward to a great few days catching up !
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 10:48:55 GMT
TT should be a cracker. A great distance ; I don't really like the smaller TT's.
CF won't make anything on Dumoulin, but Dumoulin could claw back quite a bit of time on Yates. But - three mountain stages to go... I can see that falling in Yates' and even Froome's favour. Not outside the realms of possible to end up with Yates and Froome finishing first and second overall.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on May 22, 2018 13:18:35 GMT
Rohan Dennis goes off at 3pm British time so reckon that's the time to tune in if you can watch (don't think I can), always good to see a few guys go before the really interesting GC ones to get an idea of where people who have gone too hard are fading. Yates goes at 3.30.
I am predicting Yates will have a 19 second lead after today.
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Post by salopstick on May 22, 2018 18:06:51 GMT
Yates can only lose it now
He’s rode brilliant all tour
I like froome and am not bothered he hasn’t won but more disappointed he couldn’t make history
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on May 23, 2018 8:24:54 GMT
Yates can only lose it now He’s rode brilliant all tour I like froome and am not bothered he hasn’t won but more disappointed he couldn’t make history I agree with all of that, although even if Froome were to win the race somehow, the victory and achievement would be tainted. Froome is in a no win situation and I'm sad for him and sad for cycling at the same time.
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Post by salopstick on May 23, 2018 10:38:39 GMT
Yates can only lose it now He’s rode brilliant all tour I like froome and am not bothered he hasn’t won but more disappointed he couldn’t make history I agree with all of that, although even if Froome were to win the race somehow, the victory and achievement would be tainted. Froome is in a no win situation and I'm sad for him and sad for cycling at the same time. I would love team sky to say “fuck it let’s do our own breakaway and hope for the best”
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 20:26:29 GMT
A bad day for Simon Yates today on stage 18, losing around half a minute to Tom Dumoulin leaving him only 28 seconds in the lead overall. Two difficult stages still to come on 19 and 20 so it's all still up for grabs.
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Post by salopstick on May 24, 2018 21:34:05 GMT
A bad day for Simon Yates today on stage 18, losing around half a minute to Tom Dumoulin leaving him only 28 seconds in the lead overall. Two difficult stages still to come on 19 and 20 so it's all still up for grabs. Still think he should have enough to hold on mate
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on May 24, 2018 21:59:07 GMT
Hard to tell if he simply misjudged the Dumoulin attack or whether he's spent. He needs some serious support from his team tomorrow.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on May 25, 2018 7:56:26 GMT
Hard to tell if he simply misjudged the Dumoulin attack or whether he's spent. He needs some serious support from his team tomorrow. It definitely wasn't just a misjudgment - he was leaking time at a crazy rate and struggling to hold the wheels of people like Konrad etc. The question is whether it was a bad day (maybe forgot to eat/drink, didn't recover from the wet weather etc) , or he has peaked his fitness to be in the best form early on and this is the enevitable decline? If it's the former he should be fine, if it's the latter he will lose a lot more time on the killer stages that remain. All in all it makes fascinating viewing, and I can only think of a couple of stages in this Giro that haven't been compelling viewing. Cracking stuff.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2018 8:08:25 GMT
Hard to tell if he simply misjudged the Dumoulin attack or whether he's spent. He needs some serious support from his team tomorrow. It definitely wasn't just a misjudgment - he was leaking time at a crazy rate and struggling to hold the wheels of people like Konrad etc. The question is whether it was a bad day (maybe forgot to eat/drink, didn't recover from the wet weather etc) , or he has peaked his fitness to be in the best form early on and this is the enevitable decline? If it's the former he should be fine, if it's the latter he will lose a lot more time on the killer stages that remain. All in all it makes fascinating viewing, and I can only think of a couple of stages in this Giro that haven't been compelling viewing. Cracking stuff. I'd like to think it was just a bad day, and it would be great to have a British/English winner wouldn't it ? He did seem to run out of steam and I'm not sure his team are capable of giving him the support he needs in the really difficult stages today and tomorrow. Maybe he was saving himself yesterday in order to be slightly fresher for 19 and 20. If he has cracked is Dumoulin able to take advantage ? Surely Pozzovivo, Froome and Pinot are too far back to have a chance of victory. It'll be great to watch but he's probably just about got enough of a lead to hold on for the victory.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on May 25, 2018 9:01:51 GMT
It definitely wasn't just a misjudgment - he was leaking time at a crazy rate and struggling to hold the wheels of people like Konrad etc. The question is whether it was a bad day (maybe forgot to eat/drink, didn't recover from the wet weather etc) , or he has peaked his fitness to be in the best form early on and this is the enevitable decline? If it's the former he should be fine, if it's the latter he will lose a lot more time on the killer stages that remain. All in all it makes fascinating viewing, and I can only think of a couple of stages in this Giro that haven't been compelling viewing. Cracking stuff. I'd like to think it was just a bad day, and it would be great to have a British/English winner wouldn't it ? He did seem to run out of steam and I'm not sure his team are capable of giving him the support he needs in the really difficult stages today and tomorrow. Maybe he was saving himself yesterday in order to be slightly fresher for 19 and 20. If he has cracked is Dumoulin able to take advantage ? Surely Pozzovivo, Froome and Pinot are too far back to have a chance of victory. It'll be great to watch but he's probably just about got enough of a lead to hold on for the victory. Dumoulin has shown that he has the ability to recover to limit his losses and Yates performance yesterday is going to give Tom a big boost in confidence. We've seen nothing from Chavez for days, I hope he's been deliberately conserving energy for the next two days.
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Post by salopstick on May 25, 2018 9:02:21 GMT
It definitely wasn't just a misjudgment - he was leaking time at a crazy rate and struggling to hold the wheels of people like Konrad etc. The question is whether it was a bad day (maybe forgot to eat/drink, didn't recover from the wet weather etc) , or he has peaked his fitness to be in the best form early on and this is the enevitable decline? If it's the former he should be fine, if it's the latter he will lose a lot more time on the killer stages that remain. All in all it makes fascinating viewing, and I can only think of a couple of stages in this Giro that haven't been compelling viewing. Cracking stuff. I'd like to think it was just a bad day, and it would be great to have a British/English winner wouldn't it ? He did seem to run out of steam and I'm not sure his team are capable of giving him the support he needs in the really difficult stages today and tomorrow. Maybe he was saving himself yesterday in order to be slightly fresher for 19 and 20. If he has cracked is Dumoulin able to take advantage ? Surely Pozzovivo, Froome and Pinot are too far back to have a chance of victory. It'll be great to watch but he's probably just about got enough of a lead to hold on for the victory. Assuming froome is too far back what have Team sky got to lose by breaking away
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2018 9:52:37 GMT
It's going to be an interesting finish that's for sure !
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Post by thepremierbanksy on May 25, 2018 11:26:43 GMT
Yates has enough of a buffer to the rest that I think he only needs to mark Dumoulin. Got to say I am pretty doubtful about him being able to do that, he looked in a lot of trouble yesterday in spite of a lot of commentators saying it was a climb suited to TD/CF.
Hope he does it though! Tuning out until I can watch on Eurosport tonight, Ciao!
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on May 25, 2018 12:51:57 GMT
Hard to tell if he simply misjudged the Dumoulin attack or whether he's spent. He needs some serious support from his team tomorrow. It definitely wasn't just a misjudgment - he was leaking time at a crazy rate and struggling to hold the wheels of people like Konrad etc. The question is whether it was a bad day (maybe forgot to eat/drink, didn't recover from the wet weather etc) , or he has peaked his fitness to be in the best form early on and this is the enevitable decline? If it's the former he should be fine, if it's the latter he will lose a lot more time on the killer stages that remain. All in all it makes fascinating viewing, and I can only think of a couple of stages in this Giro that haven't been compelling viewing. Cracking stuff. Turns out it was very much the latter. Game over for Yates, game on for Dumoulin and (possibly) Froome.
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Post by Clem Fandango on May 25, 2018 13:15:49 GMT
Fantastic stage so far
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Post by salopstick on May 25, 2018 14:47:53 GMT
This is smazing
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2018 15:12:16 GMT
Wow !
What a stage, what a fantastic performance by Chris Froome after a great set-up by Sky !
Into the pink jersey by 40 seconds over Tom Dumoulin. Simon Yates lost nearly 40 minutes !
Incredible !
It will be a tremendous stage tomorrow to see if Chris Froome or Tom Dumoulin can hang in after using so much energy today. Can't wait !
Goooaaarrnnn Froomey !
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Post by salopstick on May 25, 2018 17:42:38 GMT
Froome can only lose it now
He’s had a great tour, kept up with the leaders and come strong in the final week.
I like Froome I’m glad he may win and quite pleased he could make history
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Post by Clem Fandango on May 25, 2018 17:45:44 GMT
Thats probably the best ride by any rider I've seen (only been watching since the 2011 tour) before today it was Boonen's Paris Roubaix win in 2012 when he went solo 50km out.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on May 25, 2018 20:26:30 GMT
Astonishing ride!
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on May 25, 2018 21:19:13 GMT
Incredible ride. Let's hope it is 'real'. For now all I can do is remain sceptical but unsure, and say 'bravo' to Froome.
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