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Post by Northy on Jan 17, 2018 7:43:24 GMT
We are fast becoming a third world country.i dont know if they do a league table of how countries stand with each other but if they did i am sure we are near tge bottom of the table. On what basis do you think that? The economy, the housing, the infrastructure, the nations health, security ? If you are right then why are 300,000 people a year coming here and they are queuing up at foreign ports to get in illegaly, surely they would be better off in their own countries where it's always been 3rd world and there's better weather ?
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Post by Northy on Jan 17, 2018 7:55:08 GMT
essexstokey dislikes this, it's a fact against labour (again) no its a fact against the government who approved them nationally councils have to abide by bidding rules this council as long as they did have nothing to hide unlike the Kensington and Chelsea one !! there lies and choice of contractors cost lives oh I wonder what political party they are from?? Do they really, where's your proof, come on show us? Councils follow a process through an RFQ on certain value levels, if it goes above £100k then it has to follow EU process not the UK governments Don't you remember Gordon Browns Speech - British Jobs for British Workers, while trying to hide a ship full of Italian workers off the north east coast working on British Jobs as it had to come under EU tender agreements, And then the lightning strikes by refinery and power staion workers ?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 17, 2018 8:40:31 GMT
Inflation fell from 3.1 % to 3%, only a slight fall but I suppose it's a good direction, If people are lambasting them for it going up, i expect they will be patting them on the back when it goes down .... But its still a 3% rise No. It's about a 1.5% 'rise' from what it was. You do know that you need a positive inflation rate to move the economy forward don't you? Here are the inflation rates for the last 10 years. Consumer Price Index Housing
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 17, 2018 8:41:41 GMT
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Post by essexstokey on Jan 17, 2018 8:43:54 GMT
no its a fact against the government who approved them nationally councils have to abide by bidding rules this council as long as they did have nothing to hide unlike the Kensington and Chelsea one !! there lies and choice of contractors cost lives oh I wonder what political party they are from?? Link to bidding rules and Leeds councils' descion making process please. Your statement, your proof. Them's the rules in 2018 Essex. You want facts? Then deal in them. Here's one. The new Labour MP for Kensington Emma Dent-Coad was previously on the housing council and personally commended the Grenfell refurbishment. A day after the fire she's visiting the scene with Corbyn blaming the Tories. Disgustingly manipulating a disaster for some fake political point scoring. Typical blame it on someone else tactic that you and the tory boys use when your banged to rights for one she is not facing criminal charges unlike the Tory's and also 14 conservatives have been de selected including the former leader and deputy from mays election. there is a document trail leading back to the conservative council yet you say that they are blameless I don't think that the police agree!!
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Post by essexstokey on Jan 17, 2018 8:45:53 GMT
We are fast becoming a third world country.i dont know if they do a league table of how countries stand with each other but if they did i am sure we are near tge bottom of the table. we already have a third world charity operating in this country providing dentistry
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Post by essexstokey on Jan 17, 2018 8:50:37 GMT
Another way they want social engineering !!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 8:51:02 GMT
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Post by essexstokey on Jan 17, 2018 9:01:52 GMT
No. It's about a 1.5% 'rise' from what it was. You do know that you need a positive inflation rate to move the economy forward don't you? Here are the inflation rates for the last 10 years. Consumer Price Index HousingFirst of all roger you have misunderstood inflation rates inflation is the increase in a set of prices that people pay for goods if you are paying more for a good than you were a previous month then this means you are getting less for your money. with there being a decrease in wages it means that to get the most for your money I.e you are less well off. This hits the lowest income people in the UK more as they have less disposable income. No economy figures and inflation figures are totally different economy looks at all figures of exports etc and assesses the goods and services that we as a country have you can technically have a negative inflation rate and a positive growing economy. Also as usual check the figures you are missquoting
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Post by essexstokey on Jan 17, 2018 9:07:14 GMT
Oh Tory's on the ropes again for there incompetence lets bring this up yet again!! about time you and the tory boys put a new record on!! lets not forget that you are supporting the Irish terrorists of the DUP!
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Post by oggyoggy on Jan 17, 2018 9:16:56 GMT
A third of Carillion contracts issued under Labour. Labour Leeds Council's preferred bidder for a £120 million contract only days ago.... essexstokey dislikes this, it's a fact against labour (again) It is mostly a fact against the Tories though. 2/3rds of contracts issued under the Tories.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 17, 2018 9:17:59 GMT
Link to bidding rules and Leeds councils' descion making process please. Your statement, your proof. Them's the rules in 2018 Essex. You want facts? Then deal in them. Here's one. The new Labour MP for Kensington Emma Dent-Coad was previously on the housing council and personally commended the Grenfell refurbishment. A day after the fire she's visiting the scene with Corbyn blaming the Tories. Disgustingly manipulating a disaster for some fake political point scoring. Typical blame it on someone else tactic that you and the tory boys use when your banged to rights for one she is not facing criminal charges unlike the Tory's and also 14 conservatives have been de selected including the former leader and deputy from mays election. there is a document trail leading back to the conservative council yet you say that they are blameless I don't think that the police agree!! What was your new years resolution? Proving all the Tory boys wrong or some such dribble. I posted that the Labour run Leeds Council were still dealing with Carillion last week. You posted about National and Local tendering procedures, without facts or links. Got any? Which Tory's are facing criminal charges? Links please. I've now edited my previous post showing minutes of a housing meeting where Dent-Coad is a Director and it shows her personal approval of the Grenfell refurbishment, specifically mentioning that the work had reflected the wishes of the tenants. Now you post your paper trail in evidence of your posts. This how debate works.
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Post by essexstokey on Jan 17, 2018 9:18:00 GMT
NHS 'haemorrhaging' nurses as 33,000 leave each year link
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 17, 2018 9:20:31 GMT
I think we've been here before recently. You seem to think that the State should fund the personal lifestyle choice of having an unlimited number of children. I don't. If you can afford a big family great if you can't then don't expect the State to pay for you.
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Post by Northy on Jan 17, 2018 9:24:15 GMT
thats what a lot of people think should happen, lifestyle benefit families knocking out loads of kids just for taxpayers to fund. Then those kids produce even more ferral rats of their own. whats your thoughts and proposals to get these families from out of the welfare rut they like to live ?
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Post by Northy on Jan 17, 2018 9:25:54 GMT
essexstokey dislikes this, it's a fact against labour (again) It is mostly a fact against the Tories though. 2/3rds of contracts issued under the Tories. and? the post was about labours hypocrisy
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Post by essexstokey on Jan 17, 2018 9:25:58 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 17, 2018 9:33:28 GMT
What about the greedy and fraudulent bankers that caused the worldwide recession that has forced people into poverty.
How many children are they allowed on the Tory social engineering scale?
Can one of you right wing fuckers put a table together for me?
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Post by Northy on Jan 17, 2018 10:06:32 GMT
What about the greedy and fraudulent bankers that caused the worldwide recession that has forced people into poverty. How many children are they allowed on the Tory social engineering scale? Can one of you right wing fuckers put a table together for me? They should have had their balls chopped off and then thrown in jail
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Jan 17, 2018 11:39:30 GMT
As this is my 3000 post I thought I would put it on this thread since the election we have seen a government lead by the weak and wobbly Kim jun May go from one disaster to the other. she has shown what a chocolate tea pot she is and is only hanging to power by paying out bribes and giving gongs to those that can keep her in power. Yet she hangs on because there is no one to replace her with any credibility. The conservatives are the 4th biggest party re members its time that this dinosaur of a party with its dinosaur policies and views be put out of its misery at the next election. I don't care how people vote as long as these parasites don't get in again. they have sold you and me down the river once to many times. It is apparent from here that the far right frequent these message boards with lies to try and turn the general public and for fill there need for power this is why I started posting so much to shoot down what they said. I'm looking forward to shooting roger and the tory boys lies down over the next year if it means the truth is not manipulated by them. So everyone who voted Conservative is a liar? Furthermore, you don't car how everyone votes "as long as these parasites don't get in again"? What if everyone voted Conservative? I am sure you really do care, or would you accept the result? Mind you, based on the two previous results (General Election and Brexit) no doubt there would again be calls for a re-vote.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 17, 2018 12:07:25 GMT
What about the greedy and fraudulent bankers that caused the worldwide recession that has forced people into poverty. How many children are they allowed on the Tory social engineering scale? Can one of you right wing fuckers put a table together for me? It was a Labour Government that bailed out the banks. Alistair Darling, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, told the House of Commons in a statement on 8 October 2008 that the proposals were "designed to restore confidence in the banking system", and that the funding would "put the banks on a stronger footing". Prime Minister Gordon Brown suggested that the government's actions had "led the way" for other nations to follow. Shadow Chancellor George Osborne stated that "This is the final chapter of the age of irresponsibility...." Hello austerity. Thanks Labour. Wiki
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Post by essexstokey on Jan 17, 2018 12:16:57 GMT
What about the greedy and fraudulent bankers that caused the worldwide recession that has forced people into poverty. How many children are they allowed on the Tory social engineering scale? Can one of you right wing fuckers put a table together for me? oh they are allowed as many as they won't as they will vote conservative !!
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Post by essexstokey on Jan 17, 2018 12:21:09 GMT
What about the greedy and fraudulent bankers that caused the worldwide recession that has forced people into poverty. How many children are they allowed on the Tory social engineering scale? Can one of you right wing fuckers put a table together for me? It was a Labour Government that bailed out the banks.
Alistair Darling, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, told the House of Commons in a statement on 8 October 2008 that the proposals were "designed to restore confidence in the banking system", and that the funding would "put the banks on a stronger footing". Prime Minister Gordon Brown suggested that the government's actions had "led the way" for other nations to follow. Shadow Chancellor George Osborne stated that "This is the final chapter of the age of irresponsibility...." Hello austerity. Thanks Labour. WikiAnd yes lets remind everyone that it was Labour that bailed out British banks , British people and British industry where your comments indicate that the torys would have let all go to the wall So roger you want all the banks to go bankrupt do you with everyone loosing there savings etc. firms going bust and a recession all because of some greedy individuals who happen to fund/support your party trust that you had all your money in off shore banks to avoid tax!!
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Jan 17, 2018 12:31:17 GMT
It was a Labour Government that bailed out the banks.
Alistair Darling, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, told the House of Commons in a statement on 8 October 2008 that the proposals were "designed to restore confidence in the banking system", and that the funding would "put the banks on a stronger footing". Prime Minister Gordon Brown suggested that the government's actions had "led the way" for other nations to follow. Shadow Chancellor George Osborne stated that "This is the final chapter of the age of irresponsibility...." Hello austerity. Thanks Labour. Wiki And yes lets remind everyone that it was Labour that bailed out British banks , British people and British industry where your comments indicate that the torys would have let all go to the wall So roger you want all the banks to go bankrupt do you with everyone loosing there savings etc. firms going bust and a recession all because of some greedy individuals who happen to fund/support your party trust that you had all your money in off shore banks to avoid tax!! Do you honestly believe this? Incredulous........ Both parties have individuals who have been involved in the off shore banks. In fact a number of items you have used as evidence against the "Tories" can equally be thrown at Labour... the issues are cross party issues. Not just one.
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Post by followyoudown on Jan 17, 2018 13:48:25 GMT
What about the greedy and fraudulent bankers that caused the worldwide recession that has forced people into poverty. How many children are they allowed on the Tory social engineering scale? Can one of you right wing fuckers put a table together for me? It was a Labour Government that bailed out the banks. Alistair Darling, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, told the House of Commons in a statement on 8 October 2008 that the proposals were "designed to restore confidence in the banking system", and that the funding would "put the banks on a stronger footing". Prime Minister Gordon Brown suggested that the government's actions had "led the way" for other nations to follow. Shadow Chancellor George Osborne stated that "This is the final chapter of the age of irresponsibility...." Hello austerity. Thanks Labour. WikiThat was confidence eroded due to Labour letting the Northern Rock crisis arise, they could have sold Northern Rock to Lloyds or Virgin before the run on them but did not want to do this because it would have cost them votes in Newcastle due to the redundancies that would have arisen.
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Post by oggyoggy on Jan 17, 2018 18:42:59 GMT
It is mostly a fact against the Tories though. 2/3rds of contracts issued under the Tories. and? the post was about labours hypocrisy Attacking Corbyn for what New Labour did is ridiculous, particularly in relation to neoliberal policy such as PFI. If someone should be credited for opposing New Labour and their neoliberal policies it is Corbyn and certainly not May particularly where she increased PFI contracts.
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Post by Northy on Jan 17, 2018 19:15:39 GMT
And yes lets remind everyone that it was Labour that bailed out British banks , British people and British industry where your comments indicate that the torys would have let all go to the wall So roger you want all the banks to go bankrupt do you with everyone loosing there savings etc. firms going bust and a recession all because of some greedy individuals who happen to fund/support your party trust that you had all your money in off shore banks to avoid tax!! Do you honestly believe this? Incredulous........ Both parties have individuals who have been involved in the off shore banks. In fact a number of items you have used as evidence against the "Tories" can equally be thrown at Labour... the issues are cross party issues. Not just one. we keep telling him that but he doesn't respond, ignores it and posts the same crap over and over. I tried to tell him the difference between there and their, but that fell on deaf ears as well.
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Post by essexstokey on Jan 17, 2018 19:28:51 GMT
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Post by 828492 on Jan 18, 2018 0:03:12 GMT
Let’s be quite clear about this. The Maybot is only the Prime Minister.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 18, 2018 14:10:36 GMT
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