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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 10, 2018 1:07:59 GMT
Huddy and Essex jizzing over a half completed mini re-shuffle Desperate times. Espicially funny when Jezza had to have mps doubling up roles as so many mp's refused to serve under the IRA supporting crackpot Your desperation knows no bounds these days, sunshine.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 10, 2018 1:09:30 GMT
I think its more laughing at the ongoing shitness of the Maybot, Todge! "Hi, Justine, I'd like you to move to Work and Pensions please" "What? And deal with the fucking mess Ian Duncan Smith left it in? No thanks, I'm off!" :-) Hello Esther. You used to shag Ian Duncan Smith. Would you like Work and Pensions? Yes please. Corrected for you Rog.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 10, 2018 1:10:26 GMT
Hello Esther. You used to work with Ian Duncan Smith. Would you like Work and Pensions? Yes please. looks like I wont be able to get close up to my MP in the village surgery now, she won't be spending much time in the constituency She couldn't give a flying fuck about her constituents mate, as you will quickly realise.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 10, 2018 1:12:28 GMT
Esther: i really do not mind that I am not first choice. Or second choice. Or third choice. I just want to be on TV, have a big car to be driven around in, and to have a big red box. Maybot: I think you already have a big red box! ?? What do you think about John McDonut calling for McVey to be hung? Probably the same as David Cameron designing T-shirts for the hanging of Nelson Mandela Rog.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 10, 2018 2:28:07 GMT
?? What do you think about John McDonut calling for McVey to be hung? Probably the same as David Cameron designing T-shirts for the hanging of Nelson Mandela Rog. ?? Your late night dribbling is becoming very odd.
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Post by Northy on Jan 10, 2018 7:41:00 GMT
looks like I wont be able to get close up to my MP in the village surgery now, she won't be spending much time in the constituency She couldn't give a flying fuck about her constituents mate, as you will quickly realise. she came to see us in the village library within a few months taking office to discuss the local problems, more than Osborne ever did in all his years
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Post by Northy on Jan 10, 2018 7:42:26 GMT
What police funding cuts? So you have a load of paedophile's and drug runners? If you ignore it and keep it quiet you may get a gong off the queen.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 10, 2018 9:32:54 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Jan 10, 2018 10:33:18 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 10, 2018 11:39:15 GMT
Hmmm, so let's examine those bits which are actually true. 1. David Cameron had little interest in politics at University. You don't say - you'd never guess would you? 2. He went to S Africa during the apartheid and sanctions era to discuss trade options. Wow! This at a time when many many Tories were opposed to sanctions. 3. Members of the conservatives WERE selling and wearing Hang Nelson Mandela badges and t-shirts. Fairly spectacular own goal that one, Smithers, unless you were trying to out your fellow Tories as extremely unpleasant people, in which case, mission accomplished!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 10, 2018 13:15:17 GMT
Esther: i really do not mind that I am not first choice. Or second choice. Or third choice. I just want to be on TV, have a big car to be driven around in, and to have a big red box. Maybot: I think you already have a big red box! ?? What do you think about John McDonut calling for McVey to be hung? It was "lynched" and he didn't say it. Other than that you're bob on dodge.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 10, 2018 13:44:47 GMT
?? What do you think about John McDonut calling for McVey to be hung? It was "lynched" and he didn't say it. Other than that you're bob on dodge. I know exactly what he said. He called her a "stain on humanity". He repeated what had been said at a local Labour meeting in Liverpool asking for McVey to be sacked and eventually asking "why aren't we lynching the bastard". Momo, McDonut is a coward and a liar. He refused to apologise, even after calls from numerous Labour MP's to do so. He said he was only reporting what was said. John McDonnell repeatedly refuses to apologise for calling Tory MP a 'stain on humanity' - Independent
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 10, 2018 13:51:43 GMT
She couldn't give a flying fuck about her constituents mate, as you will quickly realise. she came to see us in the village library within a few months taking office to discuss the local problems, more than Osborne ever did in all his years He did get HS2 to conveniently divert around his constituency however. Meanwhile, I'm sure anyone reliant on DWP benefits is comforted by McVey's empathy levels... www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/wirral-mp-esther-mcvey-social-6993933
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Post by Kilo on Jan 10, 2018 13:56:10 GMT
?? What do you think about John McDonut calling for McVey to be hung? It was "lynched" and he didn't say it. Other than that you're bob on dodge. What do you think Lynching means then? and why did he say “I was angry. Sometimes you need to express honest anger" if he didn't say it?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 10, 2018 13:56:58 GMT
?? What do you think about John McDonut calling for McVey to be hung? It was "lynched" and he didn't say it. Other than that you're bob on dodge. Are you sure you're not Debbie Abrahams ?????? Only from this morning. Labour Hypocrisy
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 10, 2018 14:37:06 GMT
It was "lynched" and he didn't say it. Other than that you're bob on dodge. Are you sure you're not Debbie Abrahams ?????? Only from this morning. Labour Hypocrisy You didn't see Andrew Neil having to apologise afterwards then? This has been done 1000 times. He didn't say it, however often someone who can't be arsed to research it says he did.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 10, 2018 14:40:30 GMT
It was "lynched" and he didn't say it. Other than that you're bob on dodge. What do you think Lynching means then? and why did he say “I was angry. Sometimes you need to express honest anger" if he didn't say it? I'd say lynching is actually and metaphorically, a bit more than a hanging!
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 10, 2018 15:03:23 GMT
Are you sure you're not Debbie Abrahams ?????? Only from this morning. Labour Hypocrisy You didn't see Andrew Neil having to apologise afterwards then? This has been done 1000 times. He didn't say it, however often someone who can't be arsed to research it says he did. Neil clarified that McDonut was repeating another's words but 'say' them he did. Here he is on Peston not denying and not apologising. "reporting" as he put it ..... Here he is saying he'd like to go back in time and assassinate Margret Thatcher..... with Angela Raynor laughing for good measure... McDonut jokes about killing Thatcher
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Post by Kilo on Jan 10, 2018 15:14:44 GMT
Are you sure you're not Debbie Abrahams ?????? Only from this morning. Labour Hypocrisy You didn't see Andrew Neil having to apologise afterwards then? This has been done 1000 times. He didn't say it, however often someone who can't be arsed to research it says he did. "He didn't say it" He said he was quoting someone else, how can you quote someone without repeating it? All sounds a bit like adding the word "allegedly" which Paul Merton & Ian Hislop do so well You'll be arguing "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is." next.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 10, 2018 15:20:31 GMT
You didn't see Andrew Neil having to apologise afterwards then? This has been done 1000 times. He didn't say it, however often someone who can't be arsed to research it says he did. Neil clarified that McDonut was repeating another's words but 'say' them he did. Here he is on Peston not denying and not apologising. "reporting" as he put it ..... Here he is saying he'd like to go back in time and assassinate Margret Thatcher..... with Angela Raynor laughing for good measure... McDonut jokes about killing Thatcher So if you quote someone now, you actually "said" that thing. Desperate stuff Dodger. As for the Thatcher thing as it was a hypothetical question, I'll take it as a hypothetical and very funny and popular answer unlike Rapey Toby's pronouncements over a number of years! Anyway, back to business. Any comment on the Maybot's disastrous PMQ's today after her disastrous reshuffle? Still, look on the bright side, that Victorian woman hating ghost Ress-Mogg is waiting in the wings to take over.
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Post by Kilo on Jan 10, 2018 15:34:33 GMT
Neil clarified that McDonut was repeating another's words but 'say' them he did. Here he is on Peston not denying and not apologising. "reporting" as he put it ..... Here he is saying he'd like to go back in time and assassinate Margret Thatcher..... with Angela Raynor laughing for good measure... McDonut jokes about killing Thatcher So if you quote someone now, you actually "said" that thing. Desperate stuff Dodger. As for the Thatcher thing as it was a hypothetical question, I'll take it as a hypothetical and very funny and popular answer unlike Rapey Toby's pronouncements over a number of years! Anyway, back to business. Any comment on the Maybot's disastrous PMQ's today after her disastrous reshuffle? Still, look on the bright side, that Victorian woman hating ghost Ress-Mogg is waiting in the wings to take over. So, calling Toby Young "Rapey", Is that allegedly? or is it a joke and therefore fine? or are you quoting someone?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 10, 2018 15:52:47 GMT
Neil clarified that McDonut was repeating another's words but 'say' them he did. Here he is on Peston not denying and not apologising. "reporting" as he put it ..... Here he is saying he'd like to go back in time and assassinate Margret Thatcher..... with Angela Raynor laughing for good measure... McDonut jokes about killing Thatcher So if you quote someone now, you actually "said" that thing. Desperate stuff Dodger. As for the Thatcher thing as it was a hypothetical question, I'll take it as a hypothetical and very funny and popular answer unlike Rapey Toby's pronouncements over a number of years! Anyway, back to business. Any comment on the Maybot's disastrous PMQ's today after her disastrous reshuffle? Still, look on the bright side, that Victorian woman hating ghost Ress-Mogg is waiting in the wings to take over. Err... yes, if that quote comes out of your mouth. You have "said" it. And the context matters for intent. McDonut didn't repeat the words and followed up with "of course I don't agree with this". He played it for laughs in the same speech calling her a "stain on humanity". Anyway, back to reality. I know you agree with McDonut's vitriol so I'm not going to convince you but defending him is a timely reminder where your beliefs lie.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 10, 2018 16:01:51 GMT
So if you quote someone now, you actually "said" that thing. Desperate stuff Dodger. As for the Thatcher thing as it was a hypothetical question, I'll take it as a hypothetical and very funny and popular answer unlike Rapey Toby's pronouncements over a number of years! Anyway, back to business. Any comment on the Maybot's disastrous PMQ's today after her disastrous reshuffle? Still, look on the bright side, that Victorian woman hating ghost Ress-Mogg is waiting in the wings to take over. Err... yes, if that quote comes out of your mouth. You have "said" it. And the context matters for intent. McDonut didn't repeat the words and followed up with "of course I don't agree with this". He played it for laughs in the same speech calling her a "stain on humanity". Anyway, back to reality. I know you agree with McDonut's vitriol so I'm not going to convince you but defending him is a timely reminder where your beliefs lie. Errmmm well your beliefs lie with Rapey Toady and Dirty Damien give us a little window into your beliefs, Dodger
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 10, 2018 16:37:45 GMT
And Rapey Trumpy by the looks of it.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 10, 2018 17:12:26 GMT
Err... yes, if that quote comes out of your mouth. You have "said" it. And the context matters for intent. McDonut didn't repeat the words and followed up with "of course I don't agree with this". He played it for laughs in the same speech calling her a "stain on humanity". Anyway, back to reality. I know you agree with McDonut's vitriol so I'm not going to convince you but defending him is a timely reminder where your beliefs lie. Errmmm well your beliefs lie with Rapey Toady and Dirty Damien give us a little window into your beliefs, Dodger Rapey Toady .... Rapey Trump ..... and no porn evidence against Green 9 years ago nevermind last month..... Jared O'Mara ... Ken Nazi Livingstone, Naz "rape victims should keep their mouths shut" Shah... Tulip Saddiq's human rights abusing auntie.... Jim Vaz promoted to your NEC .... Clive "get on your knees bitch" Lewis etc, etc, etc. It goes on and on and on and on. Kinder, gentler, politics. Ha ha ha.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 10, 2018 17:27:44 GMT
Errmmm well your beliefs lie with Rapey Toady and Dirty Damien give us a little window into your beliefs, Dodger Rapey Toady .... Rapey Trump ..... and no porn evidence against Green 9 years ago nevermind last month..... Jared O'Mara ... Ken Nazi Livingstone, Naz "rape victims should keep their mouths shut" Shah... Tulip Saddiq's human rights abusing auntie.... Jim Vaz promoted to your NEC .... Clive "get on your knees bitch" Lewis etc, etc, etc. It goes on and on and on and on. Kinder, gentler, politics. Ha ha ha. The kinder, gentler politics of 55000 cancelled operations, chronically sick people being held in ambulances or the dignity given to dying pensioners, shoved in corridors in their final hours, whilst one private company alone took £200M out of the system. That type of kinder, gentler politics?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 10, 2018 21:32:25 GMT
Rapey Toady .... Rapey Trump ..... and no porn evidence against Green 9 years ago nevermind last month..... Jared O'Mara ... Ken Nazi Livingstone, Naz "rape victims should keep their mouths shut" Shah... Tulip Saddiq's human rights abusing auntie.... Jim Vaz promoted to your NEC .... Clive "get on your knees bitch" Lewis etc, etc, etc. It goes on and on and on and on. Kinder, gentler, politics. Ha ha ha. The kinder, gentler politics of 55000 cancelled operations, chronically sick people being held in ambulances or the dignity given to dying pensioners, shoved in corridors in their final hours, whilst one private company alone took £200M out of the system. That type of kinder, gentler politics? They didn't "take out" 200m they were paid 200M for something that would have cost the NHS 300M probably.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 10, 2018 21:35:17 GMT
Rapey Toady .... Rapey Trump ..... and no porn evidence against Green 9 years ago nevermind last month..... Jared O'Mara ... Ken Nazi Livingstone, Naz "rape victims should keep their mouths shut" Shah... Tulip Saddiq's human rights abusing auntie.... Jim Vaz promoted to your NEC .... Clive "get on your knees bitch" Lewis etc, etc, etc. It goes on and on and on and on. Kinder, gentler, politics. Ha ha ha. The kinder, gentler politics of 55000 cancelled operations, chronically sick people being held in ambulances or the dignity given to dying pensioners, shoved in corridors in their final hours, whilst one private company alone took £200M out of the system. That type of kinder, gentler politics? But you're right Mo. I don't think the NHS is fit for purpose and becoming more so every year. In fact every month of every year. So what are you proposing? More of the same? Just more money would fix the problem?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 10, 2018 23:38:44 GMT
Yes.
Well done, Todger, got there eventually.
I'll give you a clue: in 1996 team GB won one gold medal at the Atlanta games and came 36th overall. In 1997, lottery funding started going to British athletes. Since that time we have improved and improved to the point where we came a frankly unbelievable second in the medals table at Rio two years ago. All achieved as a result of properly funding our selection, training and coaching systems. That's the level of performance you get if you resource something properly.
Meanwhile, we cut funding to our public services, including the NHS in real terms and what happens? They go to rat shit. Well, who would have thought that? And the Tories argue that its nothing to do with money, it's all about waste and inefficiency and cutting costs and look at the extra funds we've given it already (while neglecting to mention it's nowhere near what it needs).
Everyone will accept in all walks of life the truism you get what you pay for. Apart from when it comes to paying for decent public services.
Two final points - the NHS did improve overall when Labour spent more on it, contrary to what some might claim. They're wrong. We're now underfunding it and it's in crisis.
Second, the scandal at Stafford is not a valid argument for the overall state of the NHS under Labour, contrary to what some might claim. They're wrong.
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Post by essexstokey on Jan 10, 2018 23:39:47 GMT
The kinder, gentler politics of 55000 cancelled operations, chronically sick people being held in ambulances or the dignity given to dying pensioners, shoved in corridors in their final hours, whilst one private company alone took £200M out of the system. That type of kinder, gentler politics? But you're right Mo. I don't think the NHS is fit for purpose and becoming more so every year. In fact every month of every year. So what are you proposing? More of the same? Just more money would fix the problem? well if this government had not cut the amount per head spent on the health service we certainly would not be in as much aof a mess we are in and if they had invested all those years ago when thatcher was in power then Major in hospitals and the infrastructure instead of feathering there own nests with tax cuts again we would not be in the mess we are now and before you mention PFI (brought in by the Tories by the way) that Labour used to replace hospitals that were falling to bits and not fit for purpose with corridors between wards outside and patients being wheeled to and from surgery outside we would not again be in the mess. and lets not forget the extra levels of management that the Tory's brought in with chief execs on silly money and trust boards being paid again we would not be in as much a mess. Oh and lets not forget the money grabbing drugs firms that support the torys inflating drugs costs to the NHS some drugs costing 10 times or more than they did when they first came out again we would not be in the mess we are. It has been and always has been an aim of the conservative party to dismantle the NHS as private healthcare gives them power over the working classes.as they cant afford it so death rates health rates etc of the poor are then used to keep them where they want them down as serfs. the answer is easy scrap the pen pushers, bring back the old style matrons, get tough with the drug companies, do collective purchasing to drive down prices, invest in our hospitals nurses etc. if this means 1 or 2 p on national insurance so be it and also re establish the amount per head of population to the nhs
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