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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 19, 2019 8:13:14 GMT
I don’t think Boris needs the help of this mob to secure his position. Anyway, I don’t think you need to be overly concerned about this story. Unlike Labour who have allowed their party to be overtaken by the far left (actually sold it to them for £3), the Tories won’t be selling out their party to these pricks. Looks like the gangster in Porridge! Grouty, wasn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 9:23:23 GMT
Thought they'd have gone for Corbyn like Nick Griffin and David Duke, good of them to let everyone know would expect them to be kicked out as soon as they are found. I believe they call that "whataboutery".......
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 9:25:25 GMT
I don’t think Boris needs the help of this mob to secure his position. Anyway, I don’t think you need to be overly concerned about this story. Unlike Labour who have allowed their party to be overtaken by the far left (actually sold it to them for £3), the Tories won’t be selling out their party to these pricks. It's great that you don't think we should be concerned. But then you sound more and more like a dyed in the wool Tory after each passing day so why would you?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 9:26:20 GMT
This is due to Labour run Newham council nothing to do with the government who are still reviewing documents, seems like they have a cast iron case and no doubt they are British. "Still reviewing documents"
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 19, 2019 10:03:55 GMT
I don’t think Boris needs the help of this mob to secure his position. Anyway, I don’t think you need to be overly concerned about this story. Unlike Labour who have allowed their party to be overtaken by the far left (actually sold it to them for £3), the Tories won’t be selling out their party to these pricks. It's great that you don't think we should be concerned. But then you sound more and more like a dyed in the wool Tory after each passing day so why would you? Ouch!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 19, 2019 15:42:51 GMT
Well done everyone. Let the good times roll in Stoke on Trent
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Post by Eggybread on Dec 19, 2019 15:54:54 GMT
Well done everyone. Let the good times roll in Stoke on Trent Ahh but it would have been worse under Corbyn didnt you know. Feel sorry for those who are/will suffer.They didn't all vote tory.
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 19, 2019 16:07:06 GMT
Well done everyone. Let the good times roll in Stoke on Trent That’s not actually, of course, correct is it.
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Post by Miles Offside on Dec 19, 2019 16:14:29 GMT
Blair - remember him, the only Labour leader in the last 45 years to win a general election? - was right when he said that Labour now are more a protest group than a political party.
The Far Left constantly misread what most voters want in this country, then blame the voters/media/anybody but themselves when they get rejected in elections.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 19, 2019 16:20:11 GMT
Well done everyone. Let the good times roll in Stoke on Trent That’s not actually, of course, correct is it. "The chancellor has pledged that the national living wage will increase, reaching two-thirds of median earnings within five years (projected to be around £10.50 an hour in 2024), provided economic conditions allow." A likely Hard Brexit means zero chance of economic conditions 'allowing'. Some people will be doing well out if it though, not those on £8.21 an hour by the sounds of it though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 16:56:47 GMT
In the week leading up to the election, I had three phone calls from Conservative's. I, in the main repeatedly told them, that all I wanted to see was a fair society. At the third call, I'm sure they were passing me from one to the other. In other words, extracting the urine. I'm very suspicious by the way! I'm afraid (and I've said it before), that I see greed everyday. It hurts me personally, to see this, in this country of ours'. Don't get me started on the litterbugs, as we used to call them. We have a Bargain Booze near us, and the amount of litter being left in the road next to it, is nothing short of a disgrace. Why don't the lazy bar stewards throw it in the nearby bin, or take it home with them, instead of ruining our neighbourhood. One of the best things the government could do is penalise these tweots. They would bring in a fortune, but that would be too much trouble. They would sooner penalise the poor old motorist. Easy money for them. What a shower! Rant over!
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 19, 2019 17:12:52 GMT
That’s not actually, of course, correct is it. "The chancellor has pledged that the national living wage will increase, reaching two-thirds of median earnings within five years (projected to be around £10.50 an hour in 2024), provided economic conditions allow." A likely Hard Brexit means zero chance of economic conditions 'allowing'. Some people will be doing well out if it though, not those on £8.21 an hour by the sounds of it though. Their commitment was to get the minimum wage to £10.50 by 2024. They’ve added a caveat, not said it won’t happen. 2024, of course, is when the next election happens. I’d be amazed if it doesn’t happen. Time will tell. It isn’t though, today, a broken manifesto commitment.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 19, 2019 17:17:57 GMT
"The chancellor has pledged that the national living wage will increase, reaching two-thirds of median earnings within five years (projected to be around £10.50 an hour in 2024), provided economic conditions allow." A likely Hard Brexit means zero chance of economic conditions 'allowing'. Some people will be doing well out if it though, not those on £8.21 an hour by the sounds of it though. Their commitment was to get the minimum wage to £10.50 by 2024. They’ve added a caveat, not said it won’t happen. 2024, of course, is when the next election happens. I’d be amazed if it doesn’t happen. Time will tell. It isn’t though, today, a broken manifesto commitment. It's an added caveat that's surprised no one but strangely wasn't mentioned just 7 days ago and a caveat that will almost certainly apply post Brexit
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 19, 2019 17:36:23 GMT
Their commitment was to get the minimum wage to £10.50 by 2024. They’ve added a caveat, not said it won’t happen. 2024, of course, is when the next election happens. I’d be amazed if it doesn’t happen. Time will tell. It isn’t though, today, a broken manifesto commitment. It's an added caveat that's surprised no one but strangely wasn't mentioned just 7 days ago and a caveat that will almost certainly apply post Brexit Possibly. Maybe they are thinking ahead and when they do introduce it they will do it by saying this was only possible because we have managed the economy so well. Maybe though their speech writing team fucked up. Or maybe, as you suggest, it’s an insight into the evil reality of Tory rule. Whatever the reason, they will do it. It’s too high a profile for them not to do it.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 19, 2019 18:51:23 GMT
It's an added caveat that's surprised no one but strangely wasn't mentioned just 7 days ago and a caveat that will almost certainly apply post Brexit Possibly. Maybe they are thinking ahead and when they do introduce it they will do it by saying this was only possible because we have managed the economy so well. Maybe though their speech writing team fucked up. Or maybe, as you suggest, it’s an insight into the evil reality of Tory rule. Whatever the reason, they will do it. It’s too high a profile for them not to do it. The good thing about their big majority is that they have no excuses not to deliver the goods, now. They have to, for the survival of their party. They will never get a better chance to ensure it.
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Post by Eggybread on Dec 20, 2019 10:29:32 GMT
Workers' rights and child refugee provisions and legislation to protect the environment left out of the Brexit bill. ID cards for voting in elections, abolition of fixed term parliaments, reduction of number of MPs to 600. Banning train strikes (which will soon extend to strikes in general). A token gesture at the NHS. Restricting the rights of EU citizens. And those are just the start.
Everything cleverly guaranteed to raise a cheer from the ghastly coalition of billionaires, millionaires, comfortably off, selfish, middle aged to elderly Home Counties middle class and struggling, duped, middle aged to elderly Northern and Midlands working class who voted Tory. (Banning strikes, Bolsover? Really?)
An Oldetonian leads a dictatorship of the oldietariat.
Millions of thinking, compassionate people my age ashamed of our generation and the one above. Young people looking on bewildered at a pinched-faced, inward-looking, joyless English tea dance which they have no part in. Give them hell at the dinner table this Christmas, kids.
This is what they voted for. End of moaning about media bias: each one of those individuals made a sovereign choice. It's just a shame their sovereign choice impacts on us too.
Age. Not class, or north and south. AGE. Older people read newspapers, young people don't. When 85% of the press is lobotomised Tory propaganda, that's going to have an effect.
And of course there used to be a concept that people get more right wing as they get older, because they get wealthier, they get houses, they have more to lose. Well, that won't be true in future....because my generation and the one above has now wrecked the future for their own children and grandchildren. This page is full of people my age who aren't like that, but we are the minority, and the majority of our generation deserve a volley of sprouts and a bit of flicked bread sauce from their kids and grandkids on Christmas Day.
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Post by Northy on Dec 20, 2019 14:01:38 GMT
5 years of a coalition government and nearly 3 of a hung parliament arguing about Brexit after taking over from Labour who had emptied the bank account, just putting things into perspective It was said on the news day after the election that there was nothing left in the pot so it must be a thing governments do before they leave power. Not everyone, I don't recall one being left in 1997
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 20, 2019 15:22:19 GMT
Workers' rights and child refugee provisions and legislation to protect the environment left out of the Brexit bill. ID cards for voting in elections, abolition of fixed term parliaments, reduction of number of MPs to 600. Banning train strikes (which will soon extend to strikes in general). A token gesture at the NHS. Restricting the rights of EU citizens. And those are just the start. Everything cleverly guaranteed to raise a cheer from the ghastly coalition of billionaires, millionaires, comfortably off, selfish, middle aged to elderly Home Counties middle class and struggling, duped, middle aged to elderly Northern and Midlands working class who voted Tory. (Banning strikes, Bolsover? Really?) An Oldetonian leads a dictatorship of the oldietariat. Millions of thinking, compassionate people my age ashamed of our generation and the one above. Young people looking on bewildered at a pinched-faced, inward-looking, joyless English tea dance which they have no part in. Give them hell at the dinner table this Christmas, kids. This is what they voted for. End of moaning about media bias: each one of those individuals made a sovereign choice. It's just a shame their sovereign choice impacts on us too. Age. Not class, or north and south. AGE. Older people read newspapers, young people don't. When 85% of the press is lobotomised Tory propaganda, that's going to have an effect. And of course there used to be a concept that people get more right wing as they get older, because they get wealthier, they get houses, they have more to lose. Well, that won't be true in future....because my generation and the one above has now wrecked the future for their own children and grandchildren. This page is full of people my age who aren't like that, but we are the minority, and the majority of our generation deserve a volley of sprouts and a bit of flicked bread sauce from their kids and grandkids on Christmas Day. Dry your eyes. I think you will find banning train strikes will prove very popular with those people who have their lives disrupted by strikes over "safety" that always seem to end with a payrise for the strikers.
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Post by Eggybread on Dec 20, 2019 15:23:23 GMT
Workers' rights and child refugee provisions and legislation to protect the environment left out of the Brexit bill. ID cards for voting in elections, abolition of fixed term parliaments, reduction of number of MPs to 600. Banning train strikes (which will soon extend to strikes in general). A token gesture at the NHS. Restricting the rights of EU citizens. And those are just the start. Everything cleverly guaranteed to raise a cheer from the ghastly coalition of billionaires, millionaires, comfortably off, selfish, middle aged to elderly Home Counties middle class and struggling, duped, middle aged to elderly Northern and Midlands working class who voted Tory. (Banning strikes, Bolsover? Really?) An Oldetonian leads a dictatorship of the oldietariat. Millions of thinking, compassionate people my age ashamed of our generation and the one above. Young people looking on bewildered at a pinched-faced, inward-looking, joyless English tea dance which they have no part in. Give them hell at the dinner table this Christmas, kids. This is what they voted for. End of moaning about media bias: each one of those individuals made a sovereign choice. It's just a shame their sovereign choice impacts on us too. Age. Not class, or north and south. AGE. Older people read newspapers, young people don't. When 85% of the press is lobotomised Tory propaganda, that's going to have an effect. And of course there used to be a concept that people get more right wing as they get older, because they get wealthier, they get houses, they have more to lose. Well, that won't be true in future....because my generation and the one above has now wrecked the future for their own children and grandchildren. This page is full of people my age who aren't like that, but we are the minority, and the majority of our generation deserve a volley of sprouts and a bit of flicked bread sauce from their kids and grandkids on Christmas Day. Dry your eyes. I think you will find banning train strikes will prove very popular with those people who have their lives disrupted by strikes over "safety" that always seem to end with a payrise for the strikers. Better than ending in deaths you moron.Ffs
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Post by Northy on Dec 20, 2019 16:39:15 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 20, 2019 17:03:27 GMT
Dry your eyes. I think you will find banning train strikes will prove very popular with those people who have their lives disrupted by strikes over "safety" that always seem to end with a payrise for the strikers. Better than ending in deaths you moron.Ffs The clue genius is the strikes are never about "safety" they will find a spurious link as its better to tell commuters this than its just because we want a bigger payrise.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 20, 2019 17:05:36 GMT
Better than ending in deaths you moron.Ffs The clue genius is the strikes are never about "safety" they will find a spurious link as its better to tell commuters this than its just because we want a bigger payrise. You selfish, duped bastard. Put your paper in the bin before it's too late! 😁
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 22, 2019 12:26:47 GMT
That's week one in the bag then you daft Tory Tossers!
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 22, 2019 12:34:07 GMT
That's week one in the bag then you daft Tory Tossers! Yep - the voice of the liberal elite. Speaking a load of prejudiced pish, but I’m sure it will go down well with his like minded middle class urban social justice warriors. I’m not sure it will persuade those idiots up North who voted Tory to return to Labour.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 22, 2019 12:39:25 GMT
That's week one in the bag then you daft Tory Tossers! Yep - the voice of the liberal elite. Speaking a load of prejudiced pish, but I’m sure it will go down well with his like minded middle class urban social justice warriors. I’m not sure it will persuade those idiots up North who voted Tory to return to Labour. You're right, the idiots up North don't seem to mind lies, having their rights eviscerated, their opportunities limited and their wages capped. Good luck to them.
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Post by serpico on Dec 22, 2019 13:35:38 GMT
That's week one in the bag then you daft Tory Tossers! The Tories are doing things that David Schneider disagrees with ? Who’d have thought it possible! 🙂 Maybe he should have campaigned to respect the referendum result then none of this would be happening, Johnson would still be sat 5 benches deep in parliament, the Tories would still be led by a terribly weak leader and labour might now be a government in waiting, instead he and his ilk have done nothing but help bring about the Johnson era by thumbing their nose at the result of the referendum, he can’t really complain, the remoaners have brought this in themselves, they more than anyone are responsible for Johnson being in power right now.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 22, 2019 17:02:39 GMT
This is how you do it
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 22, 2019 21:03:12 GMT
Just for interest really; Dahenna Davison. Tory MP at 26....in a seat, Bishop Auckland, that the Tories have not held since its formation in 1885.. Married someone 35 years older than her....now separated. Father killed following an "incident' when she was 13.
An eventful life for a young person.
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Post by bathstoke on Dec 30, 2019 11:04:34 GMT
Now that the Honours list has been released with all their names & addresses(I bet IBS is $#!tting himself)& Stoke have gone back to losing to a team as expensive as themselves, can we stop the Boris w@#&£est & get back to a bit of honest to goodness Tory hating🎩
They’re coming to get ya...
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Post by bathstoke on Jan 7, 2020 18:54:46 GMT
Where the actual £@#& has Mustique Bonzo got to. Is 2wks holiday not enough for him Or is it that now he’s become PM he’s going to hand over the reigns to Cummings...
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