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Post by Davef on Sept 17, 2019 14:23:59 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 18, 2019 8:55:16 GMT
It's hard to decide just whether this Government is just wilfully incompetent or intentionally fucking vile.
How the fuck do you not have to resign after this?
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Post by nott1 on Sept 18, 2019 10:40:39 GMT
Why? Remind me, whose policy of choice is the death causing austerity? How about labours policy of obliterating hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians? Have you seem some of the ones we let in here?
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Post by lordb on Sept 18, 2019 11:22:32 GMT
She was at Keele when I did my Masters there. Loaded and thick(Her not me ) Went onto work for PR Companies working on behalf of the Tobacco Industry. Was a lobbyist to Parliament on their behalf trying to 'soften' the law so they could kill more people, presumably. Complete opportunist Without any morals Give me Dianne Abbott anytime. The Diane Abbott who said Mao did more good than bad ? That Diane Abbott ? Syphilis or Cancer?
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 18, 2019 12:29:29 GMT
It's hard to decide just whether this Government is just wilfully incompetent or intentionally fucking vile. How the fuck do you not have to resign after this? That is the James O'Brien who has never properly apologised or been sacked over his amplyifying of false child abuse claims. But back to the story, arms the tweet says, link to story where headline says military equipment reads story where it says watercoolers and radio parts were sold that is some dishonest reporting and outrage....
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 18, 2019 13:55:03 GMT
It's hard to decide just whether this Government is just wilfully incompetent or intentionally fucking vile. How the fuck do you not have to resign after this? That is the James O'Brien who has never properly apologised or been sacked over his amplyifying of false child abuse claims. But back to the story, arms the tweet says, link to story where headline says military equipment reads story where it says watercoolers and radio parts were sold that is some dishonest reporting and outrage.... I know this Government has a cavalier attitude to the law of the land, fyd but frig me "At the time, the Foreign Office (FCO) knew the RSLF were involved in Yemen, but did not pass this on to the Department for International Trade, Truss said." Oh come on. It's a case of one law for Conservative ministers and another for everyone else. Again.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 18, 2019 13:56:25 GMT
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Post by essexstokey on Sept 18, 2019 14:17:57 GMT
This courant court case on poroguing parliament has two outcomes
1 Boris is legally proven to be called a liar and too have lied to the queen and in this circumstances he must resign
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2 the courts find in favour of Boris which sets a very dangerous president that the government can shut down parliament anytime that they want basically acting as a dictatorship if they don't like what they like for now and the future this seriously undermines parliamentary democracy and the right of your elected representative to scrutinise the executive. these are the type of powers that dictators can use to impose there will on the people.
Either way this tory government has brought this country into a public laughing stock around the world and has the potential to undermine the democratic system that underlines our nation. so I will repeat again this government is a total and utter shambles !, that thinks about there own personal agendas and not what effects it people.
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Post by essexstokey on Sept 18, 2019 14:27:50 GMT
And have you seen how the tory press have come to his defence by attacking the bloke !! and trying to say it was a put up job by a labour activist !! disgusting shows how many lies we are going to get from the press in the election and from the tories who already have been found guilty of changing a headline on the bbc and inflating figures on a Facebook add!! Think everyone should remember two things about the tory party 1 If they open there mouths they are usually lying and 2 for the few not the many !! vote them out of office when the election comes !! bounce bonking boris out of power!!
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 18, 2019 15:34:56 GMT
That is the James O'Brien who has never properly apologised or been sacked over his amplyifying of false child abuse claims. But back to the story, arms the tweet says, link to story where headline says military equipment reads story where it says watercoolers and radio parts were sold that is some dishonest reporting and outrage.... I know this Government has a cavalier attitude to the law of the land, fyd but frig me "At the time, the Foreign Office (FCO) knew the RSLF were involved in Yemen, but did not pass this on to the Department for International Trade, Truss said." Oh come on. It's a case of one law for Conservative ministers and another for everyone else. Again. So when did countries start dropping water cooler parts or radios on one another ? These are not arms so the tweet is a lie as is all the outrage, government departments dont talk to one another shock. You do realise she does not actually do these checks herself she just rubber stamps decisions by her officials............
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Post by Davef on Sept 18, 2019 15:37:06 GMT
The absolute state of this tweet from Kuenssberg
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 18, 2019 15:41:52 GMT
This courant court case on poroguing parliament has two outcomes 1 Boris is legally proven to be called a liar and too have lied to the queen and in this circumstances he must resign or 2 the courts find in favour of Boris which sets a very dangerous president that the government can shut down parliament anytime that they want basically acting as a dictatorship if they don't like what they like for now and the future this seriously undermines parliamentary democracy and the right of your elected representative to scrutinise the executive. these are the type of powers that dictators can use to impose there will on the people. Either way this tory government has brought this country into a public laughing stock around the world and has the potential to undermine the democratic system that underlines our nation. so I will repeat again this government is a total and utter shambles !, that thinks about there own personal agendas and not what effects it people. Nice even handed judgement there, he is either a liar or a dictator who offered an election two times so it seems he is pretty crap at dictatoring And actually the way the british system has always operated is that the executive governs if parliament does not like it it gets rid of the executive, thanks to the actions of Bercow, Corbyn, Swinson, Soubrey, Grieve what we are now moving closer to is the american system, they have politicised the speaker of the house role, they are now dragging the judiciary into it so soon they will be political appointees, all the time shouting about coups whilst running away from the ballot box.
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Post by henry on Sept 18, 2019 15:43:29 GMT
And have you seen how the tory press have come to his defence by attacking the bloke !! and trying to say it was a put up job by a labour activist !! disgusting shows how many lies we are going to get from the press in the election and from the tories who already have been found guilty of changing a headline on the bbc and inflating figures on a Facebook add!! Think everyone should remember two things about the tory party 1 If they open there mouths they are usually lying and 2 for the few not the many !! vote them out of office when the election comes !! bounce bonking boris out of power!! Same as Labour then.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 18, 2019 15:45:40 GMT
I know this Government has a cavalier attitude to the law of the land, fyd but frig me "At the time, the Foreign Office (FCO) knew the RSLF were involved in Yemen, but did not pass this on to the Department for International Trade, Truss said." Oh come on. It's a case of one law for Conservative ministers and another for everyone else. Again. So when did countries start dropping water cooler parts or radios on one another ? These are not arms so the tweet is a lie as is all the outrage, government departments dont talk to one another shock. You do realise she does not actually do these checks herself she just rubber stamps decisions by her officials............ They're on the banned list because they're used to deliver the instruments and suffering of war. That's like saying you can export missile launchers because the launcher doesn't actually blow ayone to smithereens!
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 18, 2019 15:50:56 GMT
So when did countries start dropping water cooler parts or radios on one another ? These are not arms so the tweet is a lie as is all the outrage, government departments dont talk to one another shock. You do realise she does not actually do these checks herself she just rubber stamps decisions by her officials............ They're on the banned list because they're used to deliver the instruments and suffering of war. That's like saying you can export missile launchers because the launcher doesn't actually blow ayone to smithereens! Water coolers are and radio parts ? And no its not, you are comparing part of a weapons system with water coolers and radio parts these are not arms and its dishonest to pretend they are.
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Post by yeokel on Sept 18, 2019 15:56:13 GMT
They're on the banned list because they're used to deliver the instruments and suffering of war. That's like saying you can export missile launchers because the launcher doesn't actually blow ayone to smithereens! Water coolers are and radio parts ? And no its not, you are comparing part of a weapons system with water coolers and radio parts these are not arms and its dishonest to pretend they are. Perhaps they weren't really watercoolers and radio parts?
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 18, 2019 16:01:38 GMT
That absolute state of this tweet from Kuenssberg Perfectly reasonable to point out, especially he is all over social media gloating and when it seems the NHS that has supposedly been destroyed according to him has by his own admission treated his daughter well.
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Sept 18, 2019 16:06:08 GMT
This courant court case on poroguing parliament has two outcomes 1 Boris is legally proven to be called a liar and too have lied to the queen and in this circumstances he must resign or 2 the courts find in favour of Boris which sets a very dangerous president that the government can shut down parliament anytime that they want basically acting as a dictatorship if they don't like what they like for now and the future this seriously undermines parliamentary democracy and the right of your elected representative to scrutinise the executive. these are the type of powers that dictators can use to impose there will on the people. Either way this tory government has brought this country into a public laughing stock around the world and has the potential to undermine the democratic system that underlines our nation. so I will repeat again this government is a total and utter shambles !, that thinks about there own personal agendas and not what effects it people. Sigh... you do know that proroguing has been used by all parties in government and is a democratic right... As for elected “representatives”... if they actually represented their constituent’s views Brexit would have been completed by now...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 16:06:56 GMT
That absolute state of this tweet from Kuenssberg She gave up pretending to be impartial months ago. She's a joke......
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 18, 2019 16:38:51 GMT
They're on the banned list because they're used to deliver the instruments and suffering of war. That's like saying you can export missile launchers because the launcher doesn't actually blow ayone to smithereens! Water coolers are and radio parts ? And no its not, you are comparing part of a weapons system with water coolers and radio parts these are not arms and its dishonest to pretend they are. They're banned because they can be used to advantage in conflict zones. Unless perhaps the water coolers were sent for the Saudi's to humanely douse Yemeni kids frying bodies and let them listen to Tony Blackburn in their death throes.
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 18, 2019 17:56:40 GMT
Water coolers are and radio parts ? And no its not, you are comparing part of a weapons system with water coolers and radio parts these are not arms and its dishonest to pretend they are. They're banned because they can be used to advantage in conflict zones. Unless perhaps the water coolers were sent for the Saudi's to humanely douse Yemeni kids frying bodies and let them listen to Tony Blackburn in their death throes. I am not arguing they are banned I am saying its false and dishonest to say the government has been supplying arms.
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Post by essexstokey on Sept 18, 2019 20:29:02 GMT
They're banned because they can be used to advantage in conflict zones. Unless perhaps the water coolers were sent for the Saudi's to humanely douse Yemeni kids frying bodies and let them listen to Tony Blackburn in their death throes. I am not arguing they are banned I am saying its false and dishonest to say the government has been supplying arms. erm oops linkoops again linkOnly when the courts said it was illegal 3 months ago did they suspend it linkThink your case is blown out the water a bit here !!
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 18, 2019 21:09:23 GMT
I am not arguing they are banned I am saying its false and dishonest to say the government has been supplying arms. erm oops linkoops again linkOnly when the courts said it was illegal 3 months ago did they suspend it linkThink your case is blown out the water a bit here !! Ohhhh mate you are best leaving this to the grown ups, ok we are talking about the Uk selling arms illegally so anything pre court case and the sales being rules illegal is errmm not relevant as the report states Truss approved sale of water coolers and radio parts these aren't weapons / arms as the tweet claimed.......
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 18, 2019 21:21:04 GMT
That absolute state of this tweet from Kuenssberg She gave up pretending to be impartial months ago. She's a joke...... Johnson lied in saying there was no press present. Did she report that? Or was it just another charming 'gaffe'?
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 18, 2019 21:49:04 GMT
She gave up pretending to be impartial months ago. She's a joke...... Johnson lied in saying there was no press present. Did she report that? Or was it just another charming 'gaffe'? She also didn't report the concerned dad was mic'd up what are the chances of that.....
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Post by essexstokey on Sept 18, 2019 21:58:30 GMT
erm oops linkoops again linkOnly when the courts said it was illegal 3 months ago did they suspend it linkThink your case is blown out the water a bit here !! Ohhhh mate you are best leaving this to the grown ups, ok we are talking about the Uk selling arms illegally so anything pre court case and the sales being rules illegal is errmm not relevant as the report states Truss approved sale of water coolers and radio parts these aren't weapons / arms as the tweet claimed....... I think its you that should leave it to the grown ups you stated "I am saying its false and dishonest to say the government has been supplying arms." If you clicked on the 2 links you would see this government has been selling arms "illegally" for years and only a court ruling stopped them ! so please before slagging off someone else check your own facts first and also include links to back up your argument you might find out that your not always right and sometimes talk a lode of rubbish!! And for information radio parts and water cooling equipment can be used in systems hence being on a banned list of components.
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Post by essexstokey on Sept 18, 2019 22:00:47 GMT
I see the tory apologists are on in force tonight defending the indefensible !! yet again!!
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 18, 2019 22:28:44 GMT
Ohhhh mate you are best leaving this to the grown ups, ok we are talking about the Uk selling arms illegally so anything pre court case and the sales being rules illegal is errmm not relevant as the report states Truss approved sale of water coolers and radio parts these aren't weapons / arms as the tweet claimed....... I think its you that should leave it to the grown ups you stated "I am saying its false and dishonest to say the government has been supplying arms." If you clicked on the 2 links you would see this government has been selling arms "illegally" for years and only a court ruling stopped them ! so please before slagging off someone else check your own facts first and also include links to back up your argument you might find out that your not always right and sometimes talk a lode of rubbish!! And for information radio parts and water cooling equipment can be used in systems hence being on a banned list of components. Fukking hell mate we are talking about the tweet that says Liz Truss has apologised for approving by accident the supply of arms illegally which actually turns out to be parts of radios and water coolers which are not arms so it is false and dishonest. The fact that arms were sold before courts ruled it illegal is entirely irrelevant to the argument I am having with momo how hard is that too understand even for you.....
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 18, 2019 22:31:23 GMT
Johnson lied in saying there was no press present. Did she report that? Or was it just another charming 'gaffe'? She also didn't report the concerned dad was mic'd up what are the chances of that..... I refer you to my previous post.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 19, 2019 6:45:51 GMT
That absolute state of this tweet from Kuenssberg She gave up pretending to be impartial months ago. She's a joke......
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