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Post by bathstoke on Aug 15, 2019 17:56:43 GMT
Back to the future
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 15, 2019 20:23:21 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 15, 2019 21:37:36 GMT
Yet SNP Scotland sees an increase of 27% compared to 16% in Wales and England its almost like there might be some other causes that doesn't fit nicely into your Tories are evil. I mean for instance deaths measured purely in numbers rather than as a % of drug users just a wild guess the number of drug users increases so does the number of people dying because you know drugs arent good for you.....
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Post by bathstoke on Aug 15, 2019 21:39:44 GMT
Or Gordon Brown. Hindsight is a wonderful thing...
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 17, 2019 7:12:52 GMT
Yet SNP Scotland sees an increase of 27% compared to 16% in Wales and England its almost like there might be some other causes that doesn't fit nicely into your Tories are evil. I mean for instance deaths measured purely in numbers rather than as a % of drug users just a wild guess the number of drug users increases so does the number of people dying because you know drugs arent good for you..... Scotland does help present a useful juxtaposition to England (& Wales) on areas where devolution applies as in this case. It doesn’t do much to support Mo’s tiresome evil Tory argument as the caring, cuddly SNP are presiding over an even worse situation in Scotland. Maybe there is something else at play here.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 17, 2019 7:46:47 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 18, 2019 9:14:01 GMT
27% increase in SNP Scotland v 16% increase in Evil Tory England and Labour Wales, feel free to discuss.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 18, 2019 9:50:54 GMT
27% increase in SNP Scotland v 16% increase in Evil Tory England and Labour Wales, feel free to discuss. It's not just the tragic waste of life that shames this Government its that the cuts are simply pig ignorant economics to boot.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 18, 2019 9:57:51 GMT
27% increase in SNP Scotland v 16% increase in Evil Tory England and Labour Wales, feel free to discuss. It's not just the tragic waste of life that shames this Government its that the cuts are simply pig ignorant economics to boot. How is the best way to get a Labour government Sheikh? Keep telling the "truth"? Hope for an event that " wakes people up"? If you could have BREXIT and a landslide Labour government would you take that? I used to be a member of the Labour party but I've honestly forgotten how or on what grounds that I can,/ could support them. It seems a long way back to me.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 18, 2019 10:22:39 GMT
I think it's fairly straightforward to get a Labour Government, BJ. If there is an election, there will be NOC and a Labour/SNP coalition.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 18, 2019 10:27:04 GMT
Replace Milliband with Corbyn?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 18, 2019 10:31:26 GMT
Replace Milliband with Corbyn? It makes a change from the Irish creationists I suppose. Norther Ireland is basically and emirate funded by Tory bribes.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 18, 2019 10:34:08 GMT
Give them independence, it will get rid of Jo Swinson, it's a fair trade!
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 18, 2019 10:43:22 GMT
I think it's fairly straightforward to get a Labour Government, BJ. If there is an election, there will be NOC and a Labour/SNP coalition. I think that might be why Labour want to stop Boris achieving BREXIT....if he does he could go to the country in November triumphant and Labour could even seem second fiddle to the LibDems. Of course if the disruption following BREXIT is sufficient the Lib Dems might surprise a few...." What did we tell you!"...and it could be NOC but would have to involve the LibDems as well as the SNP.....and would the SNP only get on board with the promise of the Indyref? Seems a lot of parties are playing politics with BREXIT.
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Post by mattyd on Aug 18, 2019 10:54:42 GMT
I think it's fairly straightforward to get a Labour Government, BJ. If there is an election, there will be NOC and a Labour/SNP coalition. If Labour go to the polls intimating an alliance with The SNP they will 100% lose. Whats the point in a coalition with a party that ultimately wants to break up the union. Both Corbynski and Wee Jimmy are totally unelectable, AND WILL NEVER GET THE KEYS TO No10. I actually think if a GE was called now there would be NOC, and The Tories and The Brexit party will form a coalition. The Brexit party are taking voters from both sides, and will be the King makers.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 18, 2019 11:02:03 GMT
I think it's fairly straightforward to get a Labour Government, BJ. If there is an election, there will be NOC and a Labour/SNP coalition. If Labour go to the polls intimating an alliance with The SNP they will 100% lose. Whats the point in a coalition with a party that ultimately wants to break up the union. Both Corbynski and Wee Jimmy are totally unelectable, AND WILL NEVER GET THE KEYS TO No10. I actually think if a GE was called now there would be NOC, and The Tories and The Brexit party will form a coalition. The Brexit party are taking voters from both sides, and will be the King makers. Neither party will go into an election suggesting a coalition but it's the most likely outcome for me.
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Post by mattyd on Aug 18, 2019 11:06:36 GMT
If Labour go to the polls intimating an alliance with The SNP they will 100% lose. Whats the point in a coalition with a party that ultimately wants to break up the union. Both Corbynski and Wee Jimmy are totally unelectable, AND WILL NEVER GET THE KEYS TO No10. I actually think if a GE was called now there would be NOC, and The Tories and The Brexit party will form a coalition. The Brexit party are taking voters from both sides, and will be the King makers. Neither party will go into an election suggesting a coalition but it's the most likely outcome for me. To be honest with you Sheikhy I think Labour will dump Corbynski before a GE is called. He is a liability. I dont know many Labour supporters that relish Corbynski as PM...It's just unthinkable.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 18, 2019 11:20:47 GMT
Neither party will go into an election suggesting a coalition but it's the most likely outcome for me. To be honest with you Sheikhy I think Labour will dump Corbynski before a GE is called. He is a liability. I dont know many Labour supporters that relish Corbynski as PM...It's just unthinkable. In the unlikely event this Government goes full terms he might go but there'll be an election soon and it will be Corbyn V Boris and one of them will be way too scared to publicly debate the other.
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Post by mattyd on Aug 18, 2019 12:10:16 GMT
To be honest with you Sheikhy I think Labour will dump Corbynski before a GE is called. He is a liability. I dont know many Labour supporters that relish Corbynski as PM...It's just unthinkable. In the unlikely event this Government goes full terms he might go but there'll be an election soon and it will be Corbyn V Boris and one of them will be way too scared to publicly debate the other. Can't see Labour chiefs backing Corbynski TBH...Just too unelectable...I think a more centrist candidate like Andy Burnham would appeal.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 18, 2019 12:18:30 GMT
To be honest with you Sheikhy I think Labour will dump Corbynski before a GE is called. He is a liability. I dont know many Labour supporters that relish Corbynski as PM...It's just unthinkable. In the unlikely event this Government goes full terms he might go but there'll be an election soon and it will be Corbyn V Boris and one of them will be way too scared to publicly debate the other. It’s not a question of being scared - it’s a question of figuring what advantage or disadvantage you think you will get compared to your opponent. Typically it benefits the opposition which is why Cameron pushed for it so had when Gordon “I agree with Nick” Brown was PM. As it happens Brown would have shown more courage by resisting Cameron’s call for a public debate. This is why people in poll position will always look to avoid these types of debates; they have more to lose and less to gain than their opponents.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 18, 2019 12:29:12 GMT
In the unlikely event this Government goes full terms he might go but there'll be an election soon and it will be Corbyn V Boris and one of them will be way too scared to publicly debate the other. It’s not a question of being scared - it’s a question of figuring what advantage or disadvantage you think you will get compared to your opponent. Typically it benefits the opposition which is why Cameron pushed for it so had when Gordon “I agree with Nick” Brown was PM. As it happens Brown would have shown more courage by resisting Cameron’s call for a public debate. This is why people in poll position will always look to avoid these types of debates; they have more to lose and less to gain than their opponents. I agree with you there Partick......but May was so bad in the campaign for her election that she managed to hide from view and cock it up
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Post by franklin66 on Aug 19, 2019 21:37:58 GMT
To be honest with you Sheikhy I think Labour will dump Corbynski before a GE is called. He is a liability. I dont know many Labour supporters that relish Corbynski as PM...It's just unthinkable. In the unlikely event this Government goes full terms he might go but there'll be an election soon and it will be Corbyn V Boris and one of them will be way too scared to publicly debate the other. He'll debate him every Wednesday if I remember right Boris made a chump of him in his first PMQs. It was embarrassing for JC and he'll get more of it.
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Post by lordb on Aug 19, 2019 21:51:37 GMT
In the unlikely event this Government goes full terms he might go but there'll be an election soon and it will be Corbyn V Boris and one of them will be way too scared to publicly debate the other. He'll debate him every Wednesday if I remember right Boris made a chump of him in his first PMQs. It was embarrassing for JC and he'll get more of it. Boris and Corbyn have one thing in common, they are both good campaigners.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 19, 2019 21:57:50 GMT
In the unlikely event this Government goes full terms he might go but there'll be an election soon and it will be Corbyn V Boris and one of them will be way too scared to publicly debate the other. He'll debate him every Wednesday if I remember right Boris made a chump of him in his first PMQs. It was embarrassing for JC and he'll get more of it. Yeah so good at it and so brave that Cuntings will keep him in a bunker for the entire campaign. Tories don’t really like scrutiny do they?😔
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Post by lawrieleslie on Aug 20, 2019 6:35:43 GMT
I think it's fairly straightforward to get a Labour Government, BJ. If there is an election, there will be NOC and a Labour/SNP coalition. I think that might be why Labour want to stop Boris achieving BREXIT....if he does he could go to the country in November triumphant and Labour could even seem second fiddle to the LibDems. Of course if the disruption following BREXIT is sufficient the Lib Dems might surprise a few...." What did we tell you!"...and it could be NOC but would have to involve the LibDems as well as the SNP.....and would the SNP only get on board with the promise of the Indyref? Seems a lot of parties are playing politics with BREXIT. Ok I give in .........wtf is NOC? I’ve googled it and nothing comes up remotely linked to this thread.
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Post by franklin66 on Aug 20, 2019 6:55:09 GMT
He'll debate him every Wednesday if I remember right Boris made a chump of him in his first PMQs. It was embarrassing for JC and he'll get more of it. Yeah so good at it and so brave that Cuntings will keep him in a bunker for the entire campaign. Tories don’t really like scrutiny do they?😔 Oh come on these so called debates are shite they offer nothing we've seen it so many times it's just nonesence. PMQS are far better and he'll win the encounter more often than not because JC is crap. It's just another way to criticise based on opinion and holds no weight at all. Do you really think when JC holds a meeting it's not full of momentum cult worshippers.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 20, 2019 7:04:10 GMT
I think that might be why Labour want to stop Boris achieving BREXIT....if he does he could go to the country in November triumphant and Labour could even seem second fiddle to the LibDems. Of course if the disruption following BREXIT is sufficient the Lib Dems might surprise a few...." What did we tell you!"...and it could be NOC but would have to involve the LibDems as well as the SNP.....and would the SNP only get on board with the promise of the Indyref? Seems a lot of parties are playing politics with BREXIT. Ok I give in .........wtf is NOC? I’ve googled it and nothing comes up remotely linked to this thread. No overall control
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 20, 2019 7:05:12 GMT
Yeah so good at it and so brave that Cuntings will keep him in a bunker for the entire campaign. Tories don’t really like scrutiny do they?😔 Oh come on these so called debates are shite they offer nothing we've seen it so many times it's just nonesence. PMQS are far better and he'll win the encounter more often than not because JC is crap. It's just another way to criticise based on opinion and holds no weight at all. Do you really think when JC holds a meeting it's not full of momentum cult worshippers. He is just being silly.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 20, 2019 7:10:00 GMT
Yeah so good at it and so brave that Cuntings will keep him in a bunker for the entire campaign. Tories don’t really like scrutiny do they?😔 Oh come on these so called debates are shite they offer nothing we've seen it so many times it's just nonesence. PMQS are far better and he'll win the encounter more often than not because JC is crap. It's just another way to criticise based on opinion and holds no weight at all. Do you really think when JC holds a meeting it's not full of momentum cult worshippers. No he wont do the debates because he knows Corbyn will destroy him. Average viewers for PMQ's less than a million. Viewers for a Johnson/Corbyn debate? 10M plus. The main difference of course is that PMQ's is a useless forum where the PM isn't forced to give answers to questions and as we saw in his first ouring, the blathering idiot didn't answer a one. In a properly moderated debate he would be unable to hide in such a snivelling cowardly way and that's why him and Cuntings wont do it. They don't like scrutiny, they are undemocratic and are shit scared of facing up to their record.
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Post by franklin66 on Aug 20, 2019 7:15:47 GMT
Oh come on these so called debates are shite they offer nothing we've seen it so many times it's just nonesence. PMQS are far better and he'll win the encounter more often than not because JC is crap. It's just another way to criticise based on opinion and holds no weight at all. Do you really think when JC holds a meeting it's not full of momentum cult worshippers. No he wont do the debates because he knows Corbyn will destroy him. Average viewers for PMQ's less than a million. Viewers for a Johnson/Corbyn debate? 10M plus. The main difference of course is that PMQ's is a useless forum where the PM isn't forced to give answers to questions and as we saw in his first ouring, the blathering idiot didn't answer a one. In a properly moderated debate he would be unable to hide in such a snivelling cowardly way and that's why him and Cuntings wont do it. They don't like scrutiny, they are undemocratic and are shit scared of facing up to their record. It seems you're one of those cult worshippers I mentioned 😁 a one eyed one to boot......try and be objective for a change it's enlightening.
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