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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 14:26:28 GMT
In all this Brexit fog, let's not forget who the real nasty bastards are. A mistake made by the DWP and other incompetents. If every person in his situation was experiencing the same then you'd have a point. It's a bit like saying that the Tories are bastards because they aren't paying nurses enough as three of them, UK wide, are using foodbanks. We could easily make the same childish accusations of similar fuck ups when Labour are in power but, fortunately, Tory voters aren't that childish.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 5, 2019 14:37:36 GMT
In all this Brexit fog, let's not forget who the real nasty bastards are. A mistake made by the DWP and other incompetents. If every person in his situation was experiencing the same then you'd have a point. It's a bit like saying that the Tories are bastards because they aren't paying nurses enough as three of them, UK wide, are using foodbanks. We could easily make the same childish accusations of similar fuck ups when Labour are in power but, fortunately, Tory voters aren't that childish. These are not isolated incidents, just type in the words 'austerity' and 'suicide' into your preferred search engine and see what this heartless Government is all about.
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Post by Northy on Feb 5, 2019 16:01:18 GMT
So it's OK for the left to do that sort of thing, but when the right do it, it's totally different and they are all racist wankers ? What sort of "thing"? the things in the report you linked, you know, engaging with the young
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Post by Northy on Feb 5, 2019 16:04:13 GMT
A mistake made by the DWP and other incompetents. If every person in his situation was experiencing the same then you'd have a point. It's a bit like saying that the Tories are bastards because they aren't paying nurses enough as three of them, UK wide, are using foodbanks. We could easily make the same childish accusations of similar fuck ups when Labour are in power but, fortunately, Tory voters aren't that childish. These are not isolated incidents, just type in the words 'austerity' and 'suicide' into your preferred search engine and see what this heartless Government is all about. Suicide rates are lower now than under the previous Labour government www.statista.com/statistics/282160/suicide-rate-in-the-united-kingdom-uk-since-2000/
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 5, 2019 16:18:01 GMT
What suicide rates due to a highly co-ordinated abusive policy towards the least well off in the country? I don't think so.
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Post by Northy on Feb 5, 2019 16:26:02 GMT
What suicide rates due to a highly co-ordinated abusive policy towards the least well off in the country? I don't think so. Show us the facts then, instead of just spouting out unsubstantiated stuff. Ive shown you suicide rates are lower now than under the last government, can you show us the proof of your post ?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 5, 2019 16:31:41 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Feb 5, 2019 16:35:31 GMT
About the time we pay the last instalment in Blair and Browns PFIs
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 5, 2019 17:19:53 GMT
Interesting you bring up this topic because today there are some more seriously worrying reports: Number of teenage suicides rockets in the last 10 yearsIt reports "The statistics, whilst showing teenage suicides going up, also showed adult suicides had gone down". The cause? Presures of social media on young people. Which is highly plausible. It isn't Brexit. And it isn't austerity. Which are the usual go to excuses of Remoaners and whining lefties respectively.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 5, 2019 17:24:57 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 5, 2019 17:28:33 GMT
Despite several studies to the absolute contrary, the reams of tales of personal tragedies since this despicable policy was inflicted on the poor since 2010, despite the Government putting its fingers in it ears to this damning report from the UN www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=23881&LangID=EThe truth is out there but those with the most to lose who have prospered beyond recognition in recent years, aren't really interested in the truth reaching the mass populous. They have two much to lose. The Tories are now so shameless, such a moral free zone that they now see Foodbanks as a necessary part of the welfare state.
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Post by Northy on Feb 5, 2019 17:34:28 GMT
The guardian - 'may have occurred' The independent - No real facts, just extra deaths which doesnt account for an increase in population, (still less than when labour was in charge) they also predict extra deaths 2015 - 2020, but look at the link i posted, that isn't true. The discoverscoiety - Linked but not confirmed. yes 1 death is 1 too much, but if you are complaining about this government and austerity, what the fook was happening when labour were in Charge ?
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Post by harryburrows on Feb 5, 2019 17:37:49 GMT
The guardian - 'may have occurred' The independent - No real facts, just extra deaths which doesnt account for an increase in population, (still less than when labour was in charge) they also predict extra deaths 2015 - 2020, but look at the link i posted, that isn't true. The discoverscoiety - Linked but not confirmed. yes 1 death is 1 too much, but if you are complaining about this government and austerity, what the fook was happening when labour were in Charge ? Spending all the money is what happened
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 5, 2019 17:45:51 GMT
Despite several studies to the absolute contrary, the reams of tales of personal tragedies since this despicable policy was inflicted on the poor since 2010, despite the Government putting its fingers in it ears to this damning report from the UN www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=23881&LangID=EThe truth is out there but those with the most to lose who have prospered beyond recognition in recent years, aren't really interested in the truth reaching the mass populous. They have two much to lose. The Tories are now so shameless, such a moral free zone that they now see Foodbanks as a necessary part of the welfare state Again interesting you quote that report - it is total dog shit. A million miles away from truth. Politically motivated twaddle. I remember listening to it being ripped to shreds on an episode of Moral Maze. But it plays to the whining left - and you folks lap it up.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 5, 2019 17:46:51 GMT
The guardian - 'may have occurred' The independent - No real facts, just extra deaths which doesnt account for an increase in population, (still less than when labour was in charge) they also predict extra deaths 2015 - 2020, but look at the link i posted, that isn't true. The discoverscoiety - Linked but not confirmed. yes 1 death is 1 too much, but if you are complaining about this government and austerity, what the fook was happening when labour were in Charge ? Spending all the money is what happened Yeah, the Tories want it both ways H don't they. On the one hand they are in complete denial about the tens of thousands in severe suffering, pain and endangered life through the Political choice of austerity and yet Labour spent so much money on the populous they were literally killing themselves in happiness I understand it's hard to accept the verminous, poor slaying, economic cleansing policies the Tory Party has undertaken this past 9 years but that is the party you support. Economic murderers!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 5, 2019 17:48:32 GMT
Despite several studies to the absolute contrary, the reams of tales of personal tragedies since this despicable policy was inflicted on the poor since 2010, despite the Government putting its fingers in it ears to this damning report from the UN www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=23881&LangID=EThe truth is out there but those with the most to lose who have prospered beyond recognition in recent years, aren't really interested in the truth reaching the mass populous. They have two much to lose. The Tories are now so shameless, such a moral free zone that they now see Foodbanks as a necessary part of the welfare state Again interesting you quote that report - it is total dog shit. A million miles away from truth. Politically motivated twaddle. I remember listening to it being ripped to shreds on an episode of Moral Maze. But it plays to the whining left - and you folks lap it up. And what prey tell is the motivation of the UN Special Rapporteur to do that? Why haven't the Government taken legal action if it's untrue. I think we know the answer.
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Post by harryburrows on Feb 5, 2019 17:55:24 GMT
Spending all the money is what happened Yeah, the Tories want it both ways H don't they. On the one hand they are in complete denial about the tens of thousands in severe suffering, pain and endangered life through the Political choice of austerity and yet Labour spent so much money on the populous they were literally killing themselves in happiness I understand it's hard to accept the verminous, poor slaying, economic cleansing policies the Tory Party has undertaken this past 9 years but that is the party you support. Economic murderers! Believe it or not I vote conservative because of the lack of a credible alternative. Whether you believe in living within your means or not , this government has created full employment , large increases in the minimum wage and huge numbers of people no longer pay tax . Low wages are the problem in this country any one holding down a reasonable job shouldn't need food banks or in work benefits.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 5, 2019 23:00:33 GMT
Again interesting you quote that report - it is total dog shit. A million miles away from truth. Politically motivated twaddle. I remember listening to it being ripped to shreds on an episode of Moral Maze. But it plays to the whining left - and you folks lap it up. And what prey tell is the motivation of the UN Special Rapporteur to do that? Why haven't the Government taken legal action if it's untrue. I think we know the answer. Because he has an agenda. Because shit is sometimes best ignored.
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 6, 2019 7:48:35 GMT
Despite several studies to the absolute contrary, the reams of tales of personal tragedies since this despicable policy was inflicted on the poor since 2010, despite the Government putting its fingers in it ears to this damning report from the UN www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=23881&LangID=EThe truth is out there but those with the most to lose who have prospered beyond recognition in recent years, aren't really interested in the truth reaching the mass populous. They have two much to lose. The Tories are now so shameless, such a moral free zone that they now see Foodbanks as a necessary part of the welfare state Again interesting you quote that report - it is total dog shit. A million miles away from truth. Politically motivated twaddle. I remember listening to it being ripped to shreds on an episode of Moral Maze. But it plays to the whining left - and you folks lap it up. Think you may have to revisit this. Moral Maze is on tonight at 8:30 talking about child suicides...
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 6, 2019 7:58:23 GMT
Again interesting you quote that report - it is total dog shit. A million miles away from truth. Politically motivated twaddle. I remember listening to it being ripped to shreds on an episode of Moral Maze. But it plays to the whining left - and you folks lap it up. Think you may have to revisit this. Moral Maze is on tonight at 8:30 talking about child suicides... Let's wait and see. The thing I like about Moral Maze is hearing passionate, articulate opposing arguments being challenged. (Well, some of the time). It will be interesting where the guests and inquisitors see the problems. I hope there is one advocate of austerity on the programme. I imagine there will be a load of Facebook and Snapchat bashing though.
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 6, 2019 8:22:09 GMT
Think you may have to revisit this. Moral Maze is on tonight at 8:30 talking about child suicides... Let's wait and see. The thing I like about Moral Maze is hearing passionate, articulate opposing arguments being challenged. (Well, some of the time). It will be interesting where the guests and inquisitors see the problems. I hope there is one advocate of austerity on the programme. I imagine there will be a load of Facebook and Snapchat bashing though. I’m not expert, but hasn’t Snapchat been usurped by Instagram!?! Come on Partick, get down wit the yout 😎
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 6, 2019 8:32:55 GMT
Think you may have to revisit this. Moral Maze is on tonight at 8:30 talking about child suicides... Let's wait and see. The thing I like about Moral Maze is hearing passionate, articulate opposing arguments being challenged. (Well, some of the time). It will be interesting where the guests and inquisitors see the problems. I hope there is one advocate of austerity on the programme. I imagine there will be a load of Facebook and Snapchat bashing though. Here’s a radical thought maybe if the Blair or any future government had of said childhood childhood childhood instead of education education education Than maybe today’s teenagers would be in a better place Children today are under far more pressure than I was as a child and pressure and fear of falling expectation surly has to have affect on the rate of child depression Let children be children adulthood lasts forever
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 6, 2019 10:08:27 GMT
And what prey tell is the motivation of the UN Special Rapporteur to do that? Why haven't the Government taken legal action if it's untrue. I think we know the answer. Because he has an agenda. Because shit is sometimes best ignored. What's his agenda though? What has he personally or the UN collectively got to benefit by making this up?
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 6, 2019 17:41:33 GMT
Because he has an agenda. Because shit is sometimes best ignored. What's his agenda though? What has he personally or the UN collectively got to benefit by making this up? Read it and you'll see. Well, if you take off your red rose coloured specs you might see. I was sort of surprised the UN allowed its good name to be used for some prejudiced, personalised, political grandstanding. Then I realised using UN and good name together in the sentance is something of an oxymoron and I became less surprised.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 6, 2019 18:17:00 GMT
What's his agenda though? What has he personally or the UN collectively got to benefit by making this up? Read it and you'll see. Well, if you take off your red rose coloured specs you might see. I was sort of surprised the UN allowed its good name to be used for some prejudiced, personalised, political grandstanding. Then I realised using UN and good name together in the sentance is something of an oxymoron and I became less surprised. Indeed PP, human rights and human well being are not really comparible as to the aims between the United Nations and this heinous Tory Government. I get that.
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 6, 2019 20:41:49 GMT
Read it and you'll see. Well, if you take off your red rose coloured specs you might see. I was sort of surprised the UN allowed its good name to be used for some prejudiced, personalised, political grandstanding. Then I realised using UN and good name together in the sentance is something of an oxymoron and I became less surprised. Indeed PP, human rights and human well being are not really comparible as to the aims between the United Nations and this heinous Tory Government. I get that. Well if people think there human rights are that bad in this country unlike the majority of socialist countries over the last seventy years we don’t keep guards on the boarder to keep them in With the current freedom of movement still in place people can always move to the utopia of mainland Europe As for the U N I take more notice of a cold bottle of piss Over the past seventy years have the un prevented mass genocide on the continent of Africa Did it prevent pol pot America does what it wants Russia does what it wants China a law to itself Israel a blank cheque to commit ethnic cleansing and the un have the nerve to send some jobsworth to lecture us on how to run a country
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 6, 2019 20:51:13 GMT
Indeed PP, human rights and human well being are not really comparible as to the aims between the United Nations and this heinous Tory Government. I get that. Well if people think there human rights are that bad in this country unlike the majority of socialist countries over the last seventy years we don’t keep guards on the boarder to keep them in With the current freedom of movement still in place people can always move to the utopia of mainland Europe As for the U N I take more notice of a cold bottle of piss Over the past seventy years have the un prevented mass genocide on the continent of Africa Did it prevent pol pot America does what it wants Russia does what it wants China a law to itself Israel a blank cheque to commit ethnic cleansing and the un have the nerve to send some jobsworth to lecture us on how to run a country Think you’re getting Socialism & Communism confused there mate. It’s like getting right wing with fascism confused.
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 6, 2019 20:56:48 GMT
Well if people think there human rights are that bad in this country unlike the majority of socialist countries over the last seventy years we don’t keep guards on the boarder to keep them in With the current freedom of movement still in place people can always move to the utopia of mainland Europe As for the U N I take more notice of a cold bottle of piss Over the past seventy years have the un prevented mass genocide on the continent of Africa Did it prevent pol pot America does what it wants Russia does what it wants China a law to itself Israel a blank cheque to commit ethnic cleansing and the un have the nerve to send some jobsworth to lecture us on how to run a country Think you’re getting Socialism & Communism confused there mate. It’s like getting right wing with fascism confused. Just being lazy used socialist as communism is not on my predicted words But out of interest what did the second S in USSR Stand for What’s your opinion on the UN
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 6, 2019 21:34:57 GMT
Think you’re getting Socialism & Communism confused there mate. It’s like getting right wing with fascism confused. Just being lazy used socialist as communism is not on my predicted words But out of interest what did the second S in USSR Stand for What’s your opinion on the UN My opinion is that politicians have become like civil servants & as such, no decisions are being made
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 6, 2019 21:46:23 GMT
Just being lazy used socialist as communism is not on my predicted words But out of interest what did the second S in USSR Stand for What’s your opinion on the UN My opinion is that politicians have become like civil servants & as such, no decisions are being made Pretty much sums them up A bunch of form filling box ticking gutless humans scared of saying something that offends anyone and incapable of holding a principle past the latest focus group
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