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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2017 20:07:05 GMT
Just think it's a bit sad if they leave Santa's Sleigh on bricks to be honest.
On a brighter note most people will be pissed so won't have to watch Wengers miserable face at Christmas or Thierry Henry trying to stick his tongue up his arse.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 3, 2017 13:41:52 GMT
So yesterday Liverpool (along with the other BIG 5) are asking for more TV revenues from international rights. Now today they are moaning about the broadcasters wanting to televise their game on Crimbo Eve You either want the money or not Liverpool. Make up ur fucking minds and dont pretend you give a shit about the supporters The hypocrisy No sympathy with club or players, do u not feel it is a tad rough on the the fans ? As an exiled Stokie i missed 2 consecutive boxing day games My post was not aimed at the supporters but totally at the club. The Premier league sold itself to the devil (Murdoch) years ago. Always chasing the TV revenues - fuck the supporters that actually go to games.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 3, 2017 14:06:26 GMT
No sympathy with club or players, do u not feel it is a tad rough on the the fans ? As an exiled Stokie i missed 2 consecutive boxing day games My post was not aimed at the supporters but totally at the club. The Premier league sold itself to the devil (Murdoch) years ago. Always chasing the TV revenues - fuck the supporters that actually go to games. Despite what the article says, I'm not sure it's been confirmed that Liverpool FC have actually objected. They certainly haven't issued any pubic statement to that effect as far as I can see. Or if they have objected, we can't see exactly how strong that objection is. They are of course unlikely to say to their supporters that they are anything other than unhappy with it, for obvious reasons. There are other things the article got wrong. The last train is not 9.21 - that's on an ordinary Sunday. It's 6.05 - so impossible to get back to Liverpool. Also, the final decision does not rest with the PL. It's a slot the broadcasters can use if they want to, because it's a Sunday, and the PL clubs ceded all control over which slots can be taken up and who plays in them to the broadcasters to maximise income. You final sentiment is absolutely right ( even though as FSF Chair I wouldn't use that language, at least in public ).
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Post by mattador78 on Oct 3, 2017 14:15:22 GMT
My post was not aimed at the supporters but totally at the club. The Premier league sold itself to the devil (Murdoch) years ago. Always chasing the TV revenues - fuck the supporters that actually go to games. Despite what the article says, I'm not sure it's been confirmed that Liverpool FC have actually objected. They certainly haven't issued any pubic statement to that effect as far as I can see. Or if they have objected, we can't see exactly how strong that objection is. They are of course unlikely to say to their supporters that they are anything other than unhappy with it, for obvious reasons. There are other things the article got wrong. The last train is not 9.21 - that's on an ordinary Sunday. It's 6.05 - so impossible to get back to Liverpool. Also, the final decision does not rest with the PL. It's a slot the broadcasters can use if they want to, because it's a Sunday, and the PL clubs ceded all control over which slots can be taken up and who plays in them to the broadcasters to maximise income. You final sentiment is absolutely right ( even though as FSF Chair I wouldn't use that language, at least in public ). At least we would be able get a free coach home 😉
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 3, 2017 14:26:27 GMT
Despite what the article says, I'm not sure it's been confirmed that Liverpool FC have actually objected. They certainly haven't issued any pubic statement to that effect as far as I can see. Or if they have objected, we can't see exactly how strong that objection is. They are of course unlikely to say to their supporters that they are anything other than unhappy with it, for obvious reasons. There are other things the article got wrong. The last train is not 9.21 - that's on an ordinary Sunday. It's 6.05 - so impossible to get back to Liverpool. Also, the final decision does not rest with the PL. It's a slot the broadcasters can use if they want to, because it's a Sunday, and the PL clubs ceded all control over which slots can be taken up and who plays in them to the broadcasters to maximise income. You final sentiment is absolutely right ( even though as FSF Chair I wouldn't use that language, at least in public ). At least we would be able get a free coach home 😉 Indeed ! In fact, I think that's exactly what Sky should offer to do if they insist on going ahead with this.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 3, 2017 14:28:27 GMT
At least we would be able get a free coach home 😉 Indeed ! In fact, I think that's exactly what Sky should offer to do if they insist on going ahead with this. Or Liverpool FC, of course.
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Post by mattador78 on Oct 3, 2017 14:28:31 GMT
At least we would be able get a free coach home 😉 Indeed ! In fact, I think that's exactly what Sky should offer to do if they insist on going ahead with this. The club or sky it's not like it's unfeasable is it
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 3, 2017 14:31:22 GMT
My post was not aimed at the supporters but totally at the club. The Premier league sold itself to the devil (Murdoch) years ago. Always chasing the TV revenues - fuck the supporters that actually go to games. Despite what the article says, I'm not sure it's been confirmed that Liverpool FC have actually objected. They certainly haven't issued any pubic statement to that effect as far as I can see. Or if they have objected, we can't see exactly how strong that objection is. They are of course unlikely to say to their supporters that they are anything other than unhappy with it, for obvious reasons. There are other things the article got wrong. The last train is not 9.21 - that's on an ordinary Sunday. It's 6.05 - so impossible to get back to Liverpool. Also, the final decision does not rest with the PL. It's a slot the broadcasters can use if they want to, because it's a Sunday, and the PL clubs ceded all control over which slots can be taken up and who plays in them to the broadcasters to maximise income. You final sentiment is absolutely right ( even though as FSF Chair I wouldn't use that language, at least in public ). You can quote me directly if you prefer Malcolm
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Oct 3, 2017 15:37:48 GMT
All part of the disease of modern football have they left Chelsea away alone I quite fancy that if it's normal time?
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 3, 2017 16:04:23 GMT
All part of the disease of modern football have they left Chelsea away alone I quite fancy that if it's normal time? We won't know until 12th. If they're doing it for xmas eve, they might well want a game new year's eve as well.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Oct 3, 2017 17:07:16 GMT
I went last year and trains were fine but I think it was a 3pm ko. If they move ko times.for away games now I tend to abstain as it generally spoils the day one way or another
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Post by chayzenbacon on Oct 3, 2017 18:35:55 GMT
I see that Arsenal are claiming they won't have enough stewards available for a xmas eve game, meaning that the game won't be able to be played then as they would breach their safety certificate. Seems as if they & the dippers might have cooked up a diplomatic way of avoiding shitting on the fans without being sued by Sky.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 18:52:45 GMT
Indeed ! In fact, I think that's exactly what Sky should offer to do if they insist on going ahead with this. The club or sky it's not like it's unfeasable is it So everyone would be happy if Sky/Liverpool put a free bus on. Feel sorry for the poorly paid coach drivers who would then have their Christmas plans ruined.
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Post by mattador78 on Oct 3, 2017 20:15:41 GMT
The club or sky it's not like it's unfeasable is it So everyone would be happy if Sky/Liverpool put a free bus on. Feel sorry for the poorly paid coach drivers who would then have their Christmas plans ruined. I don't disagree but I'm just stating a reasonable solution obviously the coach drivers would be compensated. But some people don't celebrate Christmas and others have to work over the period as well.
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Post by mrred on Oct 4, 2017 8:42:46 GMT
Funny isn't it. All the big clubs are pushing for more Sky money but won't do as they're told.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 5, 2017 16:10:55 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Oct 6, 2017 9:35:32 GMT
At least we would be able get a free coach home 😉 Indeed ! In fact, I think that's exactly what Sky should offer to do if they insist on going ahead with this. Imo sky should not offer this. It’s the club’s responsibility The clubs sold their tv rights and have to make certain obligations. If sky want to exercise those rights tough shit on the clubs involved and that includes stoke. The clubs don’t give a fuck about 12pm Saturday or Sunday kick offs or Monday and Friday and other evening kick offs. It’s a bit rich for them to moan about Christmas Eve fixtures. What the premier league should have done was put in certain exemptions that cover the festive period The clubs sold their soul to TV. They have to deal with it. The fans can complain but they have to accept that it’s our clubs that did it, however badthat sounds. The solution is for the premier league to take account of stuff like this when they negotiate deals in the first place.
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Post by Dresden_scfc on Oct 6, 2017 9:37:12 GMT
It's disgusting why don't sky just release all the fixtures and the dates there basically in control.
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Post by mrred on Oct 6, 2017 10:22:20 GMT
It's disgusting why don't sky just release all the fixtures and the dates there basically in control. Not disputing that, they are the worst thing to happen to football. But as Salop says above, Stoke and every other club are just as culpable as Sky. They've agreed to whatever the terms were, they- and ultimately- fans have got to pay the price. If this travesty does end up happening though, I have 0 sympathy for the fans that go. They're putting money into it and therefore supporting it. i won't be crying for their families as their other halves are too selfish to stay at home.
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Post by salopstick on Oct 6, 2017 10:40:55 GMT
Sort of separate but it would be more novel and create just as much interesting to have so called big games at 3pm on a Saturday.
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Post by kjpt140v on Oct 6, 2017 10:47:35 GMT
In the 60s and 70s and probably earlier, Christmas fixtures were between teams that were geographically close if at all possible. The reverse fixture was played New Year. I have a feeling Easter was similar.
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Post by mrred on Oct 6, 2017 11:23:04 GMT
Sort of separate but it would be more novel and create just as much interesting to have so called big games at 3pm on a Saturday. Nah, bollocks to them. If they want a bigger chunk, leave them to it. United can play all the early / late Saturday and Sunday fixtures as they please.
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Post by flea79 on Oct 6, 2017 11:34:44 GMT
I'm a bit surprised that the TV contract doesn't differentiate between a 4 pm slot on an "ordinary" Sunday and one when Sunday falls on Christmas Eve. Hopefully the next contract will rectify this. Quite, John. Of course the contract is not a public document, so we can't actually see what it says. It is of course known in advance when xmas eve is on a Sunday so it should have been picked up when the contract was being negotiated. Did the PL not think about it, or did they just assume that the broadcasters would not take up that slot on xmas eve, or did they deliberately leave that possibility in, because the more restrictions you put in, the less the market value of the contract. Who knows. I imagine that it is the latter of the two options and I agree I can see us vs West Brom being shown as the distance is smaller and its something of a midlands derby with the added spice of Hughes vs Pulis, however this would mean our game on the 26th being moved again, which is a shitter of a cunt fuck as its my birthday and I honestly cant remember the last game I saw on my birthday without it being at stupid o clock at night or moved to another day we have sold our souls for a seat at the top table and we as fans can do dick all about it, it wont hurt to not attend as our ticket money now means nothing to clubs in the premier league
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Post by superheroantonius on Oct 7, 2017 9:59:09 GMT
Just make any Christmas fixtures local
As they used to be
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 8, 2017 0:00:54 GMT
Anger needs to be directed towards the clubs for agreeing to this.
They have sold their own fans down the Swannee.
No use directing anger at Sky. They have neither ears or conscience.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 10, 2017 14:44:45 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 10, 2017 20:57:21 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 10, 2017 21:01:26 GMT
People from Brighton and Liverpool don't want to watch that one, why the fuck does India?
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