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Post by Scrotnig on Sept 22, 2017 22:51:50 GMT
I don't often get annoyed by this sort of thing, but is anyone else getting increasingly cross about the way the BBC (and NOBODY else) is shoving women's football down our throats? It seems to get worse by the week. Today I go to the BBC Football page to look at the scores and fixtures, and now I see this: Now, on what planet does "Women's Super Lge 1" need to get higher billing than the Premier League, or indeed any of the lower leagues? Already there has been a subtle switch of terminology...that bloke who got sacked as the womens' manager the other day was referred to on the BBC Football page, in the headline, as "England Manager Sacked"....no he wasn't, as far as I am aware Gareth Southgate is still in the job. The next step will no doubt be referring to Womens' football as "Football", while the proper game will have to be called "Mens' football". Absolutely NOBODY is interested in women's football. I'm sorry, but nobody is. There's nobody at the games, none of the rest of the media covers it, good luck to the women if they want to do it but it is a tiny, tiny minority sport that has almost unmeasurably small interest in this country. The BBC need to back off, nobody is going to take any notice of their silly attempts to pretend the womens' game is as important as the proper game. Surely it can't be just me that this is starting to annoy?
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Post by Gods on Sept 22, 2017 22:57:23 GMT
I think maybe it crept to the top tonight because the only match in any of the leagues they cover was Everton ladies v Liverpool ladies. But you're right, it is being quietly drip fed in to our collective psyche by the BBC who as a public broadcaster have a different remit, beyond pure audience figures, to say Sky and the pure profit based outlets. I'm actually okay with it though, I like women and I like football
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Post by Scrotnig on Sept 22, 2017 23:05:35 GMT
I think maybe it crept to the top tonight because the only match in any of the leagues they cover was Everton ladies v Liverpool ladies. But you're right, it is being quietly drip fed in to our psyche by the BBC who as a public broadcaster have a different remit to say Sky and the pure profit based outlets. I'm actually okay with it though, I like women and I like football I didn't mind it at first actually, I was at least partially interested when they were in some tournament last year and got to the semi finals or something. But it's got silly now. Sports headlines on Radio Five Live that deliberately don't mention the word "womens" so that it sounds like it's the men's game. They are trying to shove it down our throats and I've had enough now. It is unimportant trivia to almost everyone. Cover it by all means but don't pretend it's as important as the proper game, because it absolutely isn't.
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Post by Gods on Sept 22, 2017 23:30:13 GMT
I think maybe it crept to the top tonight because the only match in any of the leagues they cover was Everton ladies v Liverpool ladies. But you're right, it is being quietly drip fed in to our psyche by the BBC who as a public broadcaster have a different remit to say Sky and the pure profit based outlets. I'm actually okay with it though, I like women and I like football I didn't mind it at first actually, I was at least partially interested when they were in some tournament last year and got to the semi finals or something. But it's got silly now. Sports headlines on Radio Five Live that deliberately don't mention the word "womens" so that it sounds like it's the men's game. They are trying to shove it down our throats and I've had enough now. It is unimportant trivia to almost everyone. Cover it by all means but don't pretend it's as important as the proper game, because it absolutely isn't. I'm going to get shot here because I shouldn't think like this but they do the same thing with disabled sport, they have say someone on a Radio 5 sports panel and they introduce him as the 200 metres gold medal winner or something and you're scratching your head thinking who the heck is this guy and why have I never heard of him? Then it gradually dawns on you its in the T38 or CP8 class or something and you feel as though you have been slightly diddled! Yes I know I shouldn't feel this way but its the honest truth.
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Post by Claus_SCFC on Sept 23, 2017 4:53:16 GMT
Political correctness ...... I just hate it!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 6:09:46 GMT
I like it at the end of the game when they swap shirts....GET FUCKING IN YOU SLAGS.....Not that I am objectifying in any way shape or form, or being sexist for that matter....But Goooooaaaarrrrnnnnnnnn.....And the bra....
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 23, 2017 6:26:40 GMT
Some people will get upset about anything.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 23, 2017 6:30:53 GMT
I think maybe it crept to the top tonight because the only match in any of the leagues they cover was Everton ladies v Liverpool ladies. But you're right, it is being quietly drip fed in to our psyche by the BBC who as a public broadcaster have a different remit to say Sky and the pure profit based outlets. I'm actually okay with it though, I like women and I like football I didn't mind it at first actually, I was at least partially interested when they were in some tournament last year and got to the semi finals or something. But it's got silly now. Sports headlines on Radio Five Live that deliberately don't mention the word "womens" so that it sounds like it's the men's game. They are trying to shove it down our throats and I've had enough now. It is unimportant trivia to almost everyone. Cover it by all means but don't pretend it's as important as the proper game, because it absolutely isn't. Women's football has been around for all your life - but I bet you never got upset that TV companies didn't explain that they were talking about MEN's football when they mentioned the First Division or the Premier League! Half the population are women I don't see a problem why a TV company shouldn't mention which form of the game they are covering - that way people of both sexes can better choose which games they want to watch. In Wimbledon tennis, for example, no one worries about the BBC saying that they are covering the men's final on a Sunday or the women's final on a Saturday - or the mixed doubles final for that matter. The problem has been in the past that, in the case of football, they didn't mention that their coverage was almost exclusively of the men's game. There are far more things to worry about than how the BBC covers or describes a game of football. The fact that the USA is governed by a mad man, the fact that North Korea is threatening to explode a nuclear weapon over the Pacific or the increase in terrorist incidents in the UK are far more deserving of your concern!
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Post by duckling on Sept 23, 2017 6:48:49 GMT
Do you know who is behind this push for publicity and exposure, is it the FA or did the media initiate it themselves, or does it come from grassroots interest?
In the United States the women's team gets good coverage because they're very successful, and success naturally attracts attention. In addition, football/soccer is more popular among girls than boys to the point that some boys don't want to play it because it's a girls' sport. That has created and perpetuated media and commercial opportunities for the women's team as young girls see them as role models (not very good role models in some cases!).
Is this becoming the case in England too? I know the women's team isn't the same level as the United States, but aren't they doing pretty well and getting even better? Is football participation increasing among young girls?
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Post by cheadlepotter on Sept 23, 2017 7:00:57 GMT
I used to use the BBC website daily as my source of news. Then I started to notice how sexist it was and haven’t used it since.
The quality of women’s football, from what I’ve seen lately, is similar to what I’ve seen on a Sunday morning. Yet it gets almost equal coverage as the men’s professional game on the BBC website.
Positive discrimination is still discrimination. People should earn their spot no matter what sex, race etc they are. Token gestures make nothing better.
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Post by wuzza on Sept 23, 2017 7:10:36 GMT
The BBC are totally subservient to whatever pressure groups are shouting loudest. It's sports coverage in general is a fiasco and has absolutely no resemblance to the nations actual sporting interests.
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Post by justlookin on Sept 23, 2017 7:15:53 GMT
I don't often get annoyed by this sort of thing, but is anyone else getting increasingly cross about the way the BBC (and NOBODY else) is shoving women's football down our throats? It seems to get worse by the week. Today I go to the BBC Football page to look at the scores and fixtures, and now I see this: View AttachmentNow, on what planet does "Women's Super Lge 1" need to get higher billing than the Premier League, or indeed any of the lower leagues? Already there has been a subtle switch of terminology...that bloke who got sacked as the womens' manager the other day was referred to on the BBC Football page, in the headline, as "England Manager Sacked"....no he wasn't, as far as I am aware Gareth Southgate is still in the job. The next step will no doubt be referring to Womens' football as "Football", while the proper game will have to be called "Mens' football". Absolutely NOBODY is interested in women's football. I'm sorry, but nobody is. There's nobody at the games, none of the rest of the media covers it, good luck to the women if they want to do it but it is a tiny, tiny minority sport that has almost unmeasurably small interest in this country. The BBC need to back off, nobody is going to take any notice of their silly attempts to pretend the womens' game is as important as the proper game. Surely it can't be just me that this is starting to annoy? Your avatar is very accurate. How good must your life be that this is causing you distress? Get over it.
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Post by zigazaga on Sept 23, 2017 8:32:29 GMT
I'm with you 100% there mate and I agree entirely. Its the BBC and their left wing social engineering broadcasting.
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Post by drfootball on Sept 23, 2017 9:59:38 GMT
The standard of play doesn't justify the promenence of the coverage,if both teams had male keepers every game would finish nil nil. I think the BBC's pc agenda is quite amusing,watch W1A on a Monday night and you'll get the gist of it. 😉😂😂😂
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Post by Los Alfareros on Sept 23, 2017 10:19:31 GMT
I don't often get annoyed by this sort of thing, but is anyone else getting increasingly cross about the way the BBC (and NOBODY else) is shoving women's football down our throats? It seems to get worse by the week. Today I go to the BBC Football page to look at the scores and fixtures, and now I see this: View AttachmentNow, on what planet does "Women's Super Lge 1" need to get higher billing than the Premier League, or indeed any of the lower leagues? Already there has been a subtle switch of terminology...that bloke who got sacked as the womens' manager the other day was referred to on the BBC Football page, in the headline, as "England Manager Sacked"....no he wasn't, as far as I am aware Gareth Southgate is still in the job. The next step will no doubt be referring to Womens' football as "Football", while the proper game will have to be called "Mens' football". Absolutely NOBODY is interested in women's football. I'm sorry, but nobody is. There's nobody at the games, none of the rest of the media covers it, good luck to the women if they want to do it but it is a tiny, tiny minority sport that has almost unmeasurably small interest in this country. The BBC need to back off, nobody is going to take any notice of their silly attempts to pretend the womens' game is as important as the proper game. Surely it can't be just me that this is starting to annoy? Have you ever kissed a girl?
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Post by cousindupree on Sept 23, 2017 10:22:14 GMT
It's been quite amusing watching how the BBC are on a one man/woman/transgender crusade to promote women's football. It's classic BBC with their constant obsession with equality and inclusivity. The fact remains that Women's football is poor as a spectacle with attendances around a few hundred supporters or friends and family members. It's a niche sport with no widespread appeal and yet millions of license fee payer's money is spent on reporting and coverage.
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Post by Gods on Sept 23, 2017 10:39:28 GMT
I think the role of say Sky is to look after their shareholders who care about the bottom line and they do that by giving their paying public more and more of what they already know they want.
The BBC, funded from the public purse, has more grandiose ambitions, it must serve ALL it's constituents Scotland/NI/Wales, men/women/trannies, old/young, disabled/people with mental health issues, the whole shooting match.
It must also show leadership, take us to a better place, address public health, drag us kicking and screaming in to this millennium.
And it has a shit load of lobby groups who make sure it does just that!
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Post by salopstick on Sept 23, 2017 10:48:14 GMT
It’s not football
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 12:08:38 GMT
For me equality means there is no Women's football or Men's football, just football. Same goes for every sport and every job .
If you want equality then just let them play with the men, in all sports. The individual players will find their own level like every player does.
As for the physical side of things, tough shit you wanted equality. Or did you want just equality on MONEY just like the women tennis players.
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Post by Scrotnig on Sept 23, 2017 13:01:11 GMT
I think maybe it crept to the top tonight because the only match in any of the leagues they cover was Everton ladies v Liverpool ladies. Well today we have Premier League back at the top, but Women's is second in the list...putting it at a higher level of importance than the Championship, which does have fixtures today, whereas the women's league doesn't! Definitely an agenda here. Just who do they think they are kidding, exactly?
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Sept 23, 2017 13:44:25 GMT
The women's game was popular post WWI, but the FA pretty much banned it in the 1920s, didn't lift the ban until the 1970s, and it didn't come under the FA until the 90s: www.theguardian.com/football/2009/sep/10/england-womens-football-teamHow different could history have been if it hadn't been banned, and the men's and women's game had been allowed to run concurrently? This thread wouldn't exist, and no one would question women's football. There would be female football superstars too, the quality would be higher, the atmosphere at games would be great - so naturally more people would be into women's football as a result of all of that. Football is our national sport, and the standard of the women's game is going to get better if more people are interested - that's whether it's girls taking up the sport, better coaches or people paying to watch it. So from that point of view, I'm pleased it's getting more promotion recently. I guess children especially are more likely to watch recognisable figures (or celebrities). Eventually, as more money comes in, more commercial channels will follow. It does irk me slightly when the women's team getting to semi-finals is comparable to the the men's team not getting to them. It isn't, as there are far more competitive men's international football teams. Though you can only beat what's put in front of you, and playing stronger opposition naturally improves your own game, so even that could be a bit swings and roundabouts. And the main thing that annoys me about menu's swapping around is when it's so inconsistent I can't find what I'm looking for. That's happened on the BBC site a few times since it was redesigned. Like when the Images tab on Google moves or even disappears into a dropdown menu, too. Just keep everything in the same place!
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Sept 23, 2017 13:50:14 GMT
I like watching the women's game. They seem to be able to pick themselves up quickly without all the fuss, writhing in pain and crying. Different pace, easier on the eyes, I like it. And here in the States, it gets some good airtime.
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Post by skip on Sept 23, 2017 15:57:33 GMT
I'm with you 100% there mate and I agree entirely. Its the BBC and their left wing social engineering broadcasting. Television broad and narrowcasting is driven by popularity via advertising and algorithms, which is itself, a form of social engineering.
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Post by adamsson on Sept 23, 2017 16:09:54 GMT
It's cheap
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 16:14:26 GMT
They're trying to raise interest in the sport. No need to be upset.
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Post by nott1 on Sept 23, 2017 16:18:28 GMT
I like womens football, it's entertaining!
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Post by Gods on Sept 23, 2017 19:54:28 GMT
I think maybe it crept to the top tonight because the only match in any of the leagues they cover was Everton ladies v Liverpool ladies. Well today we have Premier League back at the top, but Women's is second in the list...putting it at a higher level of importance than the Championship, which does have fixtures today, whereas the women's league doesn't! Definitely an agenda here. View AttachmentJust who do they think they are kidding, exactly? Yep! I notice their 'Scores and Fixtures' service has the Scottish Premiership after The Premier League but before the Championship. Apart from Celtic it can't be anything like the level of the Championship and the crowds are not in the same stratosphere. That one is the Scottish lobby at work. The BBC is trying to be all things to all men or should that be women too!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 20:05:26 GMT
I didn't mind it at first actually, I was at least partially interested when they were in some tournament last year and got to the semi finals or something. But it's got silly now. Sports headlines on Radio Five Live that deliberately don't mention the word "womens" so that it sounds like it's the men's game. They are trying to shove it down our throats and I've had enough now. It is unimportant trivia to almost everyone. Cover it by all means but don't pretend it's as important as the proper game, because it absolutely isn't. I'm going to get shot here because I shouldn't think like this but they do the same thing with disabled sport, they have say someone on a Radio 5 sports panel and they introduce him as the 200 metres gold medal winner or something and you're scratching your head thinking who the heck is this guy and why have I never heard of him? Then it gradually dawns on you its in the T38 or CP8 class or something and you feel as though you have been slightly diddled! Yes I know I shouldn't feel this way but its the honest truth. But thats the issue isnt it Gods you feel you cannot make what you believe honest commentary because of what you will be perveived as Too many subjects are now off the menu for logical considered discussion that issues become worse because there is no debate Everyone will no the issues i am pussyfooting around so i am no better but i have had to endure one diversity course too many for a 55yo
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Post by Mr Jon on Sept 23, 2017 20:19:45 GMT
Just as an aside, have you seen the ROI player Meghan Campbell's throw-ins?
Delap-esque. Straight into the goal area 😨
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Post by duckling on Sept 23, 2017 20:31:41 GMT
Just as an aside, have you seen the ROI player Meghan Campbell's throw-ins? Delap-esque. Straight into the goal area 😨 It's incredible. You also see occasional flip throws. It allows them to gather more momentum and use more leg strength for the throw in.
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