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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 5:50:15 GMT
Pressure must be on Koeman now. They were piss poor against us and did not deserve a win, had we beat them I bet he'd be gone by now. Only downside to them being bottom 3 is that Big spending West Ham are not. Happy to see Bournemouth and Palace down there also....Just a shame that Everton, Palace, Bournemouth AND Wet Sham can't all go down....
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Post by sportsman on Sept 18, 2017 6:56:20 GMT
Yeh but remember, with the media and some on here, it's not how you do your transfer business, it's all about how much you spend.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 18, 2017 7:10:00 GMT
Early days yet. 10 games in is the time to be looking at the league tables
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Post by thebet365 on Sept 18, 2017 8:08:03 GMT
Everton have played Chelsea,Man City & Man Utd away and Spurs at home. If a chairman put pressure on a manager after that run of fixtures he'd deserve every failure coming his way.
I don't understand why Koeman bought 3 number 9's though, they look very unbalanced at the minute.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 9:50:49 GMT
Worst signing of the season Rooney. He demands that he is the king of the team and managers constantly alter their sides to suit him.
Might draw a good sponsorship deal from VW though =)
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 18, 2017 9:58:53 GMT
Worst signing of the season Rooney. He demands that he is the king of the team and managers constantly alter their sides to suit him. Might draw a good sponsorship deal from VW though =) Top three are the biggest net spenders just to even things up a bit , Everton aren't given their income from sales .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 10:51:29 GMT
Worst signing of the season Rooney. He demands that he is the king of the team and managers constantly alter their sides to suit him. Might draw a good sponsorship deal from VW though =) Top three are the biggest net spenders just to even things up a bit , Everton aren't given their income from sales . When you watch Bruce Lee perform martial arts then that's the level of performance I expect from a so called top footballer not players who miss the target from inside the six yard box. The value of the vast majority of footballers is way over the top, hyped up by big sponsorship deals and a resale market that relies on lesser teams being afraid to risk relegation. In short football used to be a sport now it's a cattle market where the so called bigger clubs fatten young players up for general consumption. Net spend is not so important as funds available and wage structure for me. You need to be able to buy quality and pay the going wage to get that player to perform. Success is what gives you funds not horse trading in the transfer market otherwise Southampton would be kings of Europe.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 11:51:26 GMT
Worst signing of the season Rooney. He demands that he is the king of the team and managers constantly alter their sides to suit him. Might draw a good sponsorship deal from VW though =) Top three are the biggest net spenders just to even things up a bit , Everton aren't given their income from sales . Mr Biscuit. I know English isn't your first language, and credit where credit is due, apart from the occasional spelling error, and glaring grammar mistakes you do okay, but read my headline again, 3 BIG spenders in the bottom 3, not the 3 BIGGEST... All three spent on big names in the window, and look where it has got them....
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 18, 2017 12:08:28 GMT
Worst signing of the season Rooney. He demands that he is the king of the team and managers constantly alter their sides to suit him. Might draw a good sponsorship deal from VW though =) Top three are the biggest net spenders just to even things up a bit , Everton aren't given their income from sales . So you think the problem is they should have spent more - either on the players they brought in or on even more players? Everton were doing fine - they lost their main striker but seem to have adopted a "kiddy in a sweetshop" transfer policy and have upset the apple cart as a result. Everton are a perfect example of why spending for the sake of it - which is what you have been arguing for every transfer window - is such a bad idea. And why nobody should take anything you say about transfers seriously.
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Post by parsonage1955 on Sept 18, 2017 12:12:54 GMT
Still, Everton would be most bookies favourites for seventh spot come the middle of May, l'd guess. Give it a couple of more months before drawing early conclusions. In truth, the 'bottom 14' could finish in almost any order.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Sept 18, 2017 12:16:11 GMT
Buying Rooney, who is no longer at his best as a central striker and then buying Sigurdsson who is a number 10, with Sandro floating around between them is what is creating problems. They don't have a striker who'll score 15 goals and playing three at the back is causing them a headache too.
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Post by mrred on Sept 18, 2017 12:42:34 GMT
Everton spent big but they didn't spend well. Even Siggurdson- no idea why he was so highly sought after when he's the same mould and pace as Rooney. Pretty much exactly like what Tottenham did after Bale.
It's early days but I'd drink to any of Bournemouth, West Ham (again) or Palace going down.
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Post by sportsman on Sept 18, 2017 14:40:42 GMT
Still, Everton would be most bookies favourites for seventh spot come the middle of May, l'd guess. Give it a couple of more months before drawing early conclusions. In truth, the 'bottom 14' could finish in almost any order. So everton have spent 150m to finish........7th again. Good business that is. Not.
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Post by Northy on Sept 18, 2017 14:57:47 GMT
Still, Everton would be most bookies favourites for seventh spot come the middle of May, l'd guess. Give it a couple of more months before drawing early conclusions. In truth, the 'bottom 14' could finish in almost any order. So everton have spent 150m to finish........7th again. Good business that is. Not. sold Lukaka for £90m and Stones for £50m though, plus a few others out like Delefelou? for £10m
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 18, 2017 15:26:33 GMT
Early days yet as cream always rises to the top
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 16:27:00 GMT
Early days yet as cream always rises to the top And so do pond scum and algae.
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Post by elystokie on Sept 18, 2017 17:53:33 GMT
Top three are the biggest net spenders just to even things up a bit , Everton aren't given their income from sales . So you think the problem is they should have spent more - either on the players they brought in or on even more players? Everton were doing fine - they lost their main striker but seem to have adopted a "kiddy in a sweetshop" transfer policy and have upset the apple cart as a result. Everton are a perfect example of why spending for the sake of it - which is what you have been arguing for every transfer window - is such a bad idea. And why nobody should take anything you say about transfers seriously. Pretty sure nobody does, or anything else he says come to that.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 18, 2017 18:26:14 GMT
So you think the problem is they should have spent more - either on the players they brought in or on even more players? Everton were doing fine - they lost their main striker but seem to have adopted a "kiddy in a sweetshop" transfer policy and have upset the apple cart as a result. Everton are a perfect example of why spending for the sake of it - which is what you have been arguing for every transfer window - is such a bad idea. And why nobody should take anything you say about transfers seriously. Pretty sure nobody does, or anything else he says come to that. Daft sods I've never said spend for the sale of it . Or buy big names , ive says if you don't keep improving by investing in the team On my way! Of the £100m income you will get left behind .. inretain the view a profit made on the summer will show we under invested and have done fur three years .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 18:35:14 GMT
Everton spent big but they didn't spend well. Even Siggurdson- no idea why he was so highly sought after when he's the same mould and pace as Rooney. Pretty much exactly like what Tottenham did after Bale. It's early days but I'd drink to any of Bournemouth, West Ham (again) or Palace going down. Spurs came straight to my mind too when thinking about Everton spending. Doubt very much they'll be hovering about the bottom of the league for too much longer, but their aspirations of Top 6 and challenging the 'big boys' may well be a pipe dream when looking at their current crop.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 19:43:09 GMT
So everton have spent 150m to finish........7th again. Good business that is. Not. sold Lukaka for £90m and Stones for £50m though, plus a few others out like Delefelou? for £10m Yes i forgot about stones when doing us maths ! Dooooooohhhhh !
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Post by mattador78 on Sept 18, 2017 19:56:51 GMT
Everton spent big but they didn't spend well. Even Siggurdson- no idea why he was so highly sought after when he's the same mould and pace as Rooney. Pretty much exactly like what Tottenham did after Bale. It's early days but I'd drink to any of Bournemouth, West Ham (again) or Palace going down. Spurs came straight to my mind too when thinking about Everton spending. Doubt very much they'll be hovering about the bottom of the league for too much longer, but their aspirations of Top 6 and challenging the 'big boys' may well be a pipe dream when looking at their current crop. That's the point really isn't it their top six top four dreams included being able to compete with the usual suspects. So far they look a worse team than us by a mile regardless of the money they spent and the massive increase in their wage bill
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Sept 18, 2017 20:11:06 GMT
sold Lukaka for £90m and Stones for £50m though, plus a few others out like Delefelou? for £10m Yes i forgot about stones when doing us maths ! Dooooooohhhhh ! To be fair, it is quite easy to forget about John Stoned.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 20:19:17 GMT
Yes i forgot about stones when doing us maths ! Dooooooohhhhh ! To be fair, it is quite easy to forget about John Stoned. Wish England would tp !
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Post by rawli on Sept 18, 2017 21:29:38 GMT
Early days yet as cream always rises to the top Some shits do as well.
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Post by burge2u on Sept 19, 2017 0:40:45 GMT
Top three are the biggest net spenders just to even things up a bit , Everton aren't given their income from sales . Mr Biscuit. I know English isn't your first language, and credit where credit is due, apart from the occasional spelling error, and glaring grammar mistakes you do okay, but read my headline again, 3 BIG spenders in the bottom 3, not the 3 BIGGEST... All three spent on big names in the window, and look where it has got them.... Shangai, You're wasting your breath matey. ........ "There's no point knocking if there's nobody in"
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 19, 2017 6:59:20 GMT
Worst signing of the season Rooney. He demands that he is the king of the team and managers constantly alter their sides to suit him. Might draw a good sponsorship deal from VW though =) Top three are the biggest net spenders just to even things up a bit , Everton aren't given their income from sales . So Everton might expect to be below us, is that what you're saying?
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Post by redstriper on Sept 19, 2017 11:22:46 GMT
teams that bring in a lot of new players take time to gel shocker...
nothing to see here...
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Sept 19, 2017 14:06:24 GMT
Lukaku is such a big loss (not just in terms of his goals) that I had them to struggle this season, but I wouldn't judge them yet. They could still 'struggle' compared to last season and finish 7th if this season is anything like last, with them being 10+ points above 8th. I reckon they'll finish top 10, just. When they signed Sigurdsson, I thought Rooney would end up playing up front again.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 19, 2017 14:53:10 GMT
The argument that they somehow shouldn't have spent the money 'because they'll only finish 7th again' is baffling. So no club should show any ambition outside the top 6?
Everton's problem isn't that they've spent the money, it's that they've bought 3-4 of essentially the same kind of player and haven't really signed anyone with any pace, which is one of the most important commodities in the league.
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