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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 17:00:20 GMT
514/8 declared - made hard work of the last hour to be fair......
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Post by 3putts on Aug 18, 2017 17:04:46 GMT
Can we get to 600 before we are bowled out or declare. And can cookie carry his bat ? Well that didn't take long did it?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 18, 2017 17:09:18 GMT
Hardly a good warm up for the Aussies, is it? I grew up watching Lloyd, Greenidge, Richards and 4 flying fast bowlers. It's criminal how bad the West Indies are now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 18:02:14 GMT
When you look at the current batch of Windies bowlers and then compare them with the greats that they used to have, Holding, Garner, Roberts, etc etc it was a relentless out and out top class aggressive pace attack which gave the batsmen no respite at all. Today's bowlers are so sadly lacking in comparison I think it's totally impossible that they will ever return to anywhere near their previous level.
I remember going to Old Trafford in 1976 for the 3rd Test where the West Indies won by 425 runs (WI 211 and 411/5d; Eng 71 and 126). I was fortunate enough to see their bowling attack completely demolish England for 71 - it was absolute carnage. The difference today is incredible.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2017 19:11:47 GMT
After all the euphoria of beating Arsenal I've just checked the Test match.
Windies all out for 168 in the first innings and now following on are currently 115-8 after only 37 overs- shouldn't be too long before it's finished for a comfortable innings and around 200 ish (?) run victory.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2017 20:00:47 GMT
All over - England comfortably win by an innings and 209 runs .
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Post by charlesjefferson on Aug 19, 2017 20:11:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2017 20:14:28 GMT
Brilliant - loved the pig !
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 25, 2017 6:49:41 GMT
2nd test starts today - and the interest is... zero.
After a hopeless mismatch in the first test that justified everyone's fears, the probability is another test wrapped up sometime on day 3.
This is not test cricket.
That said - good to see Woakes back in. Despite Toblerone Jones good showing in his first two tests he has to make way for Woakes who is a cert for the Ashes starting 11.
The only question I can see is whether some of the new boys in the top order can follow the example of Cook and Root and fill their boots when they bat.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2017 7:30:20 GMT
That's the way I feel about it as well. Almost completely uninterested.
Hopefully it will surprise us and be a bit more of a contest although I very much doubt it.
Good to see Woakes back as well.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 25, 2017 11:16:12 GMT
2nd test starts today - and the interest is... zero. After a hopeless mismatch in the first test that justified everyone's fears, the probability is another test wrapped up sometime on day 3. This is not test cricket. That said - good to see Woakes back in. Despite Toblerone Jones good showing in his first two tests he has to make way for Woakes who is a cert for the Ashes starting 11. The only question I can see is whether some of the new boys in the top order can follow the example of Cook and Root and fill their boots when they bat. Good start by the Windies. Will the middle order bale England out again?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 25, 2017 11:26:26 GMT
Our top order batting is being horrifically exposed again. God knows what they'll be like facing Stark and Co.. actually I do know, out for very few runs. The fact we haven't got anyone capable of playing 2,3 and 5 is extremely worrying. At least we have a cracking middle to lower order and bowling attack to keep us competitive.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 25, 2017 11:40:02 GMT
Our top order batting is being horrifically exposed again. God knows what they'll be like facing Stark and Co.. actually I do know, out for very few runs. The fact we haven't got anyone capable of playing 2,3 and 5 is extremely worrying. At least we have a cracking middle to lower order and bowling attack to keep us competitive. It really is incredible isn't it. Players keep coming and going and they all seem to have a technical flaw. Westley being the most obvious current example. It was obvious from his first game with his off stump guard he'd be vulnerable to a 4th stump line with the occasional straight ball to catch him out LBW. I've no idea what to do about the opener but I'd like to see 3,4,5 as Root, Bairstow, Hayles with Butler at 7 with the gloves. Anyway - a long way to go with England batting down to #9. It would be nice to see the Windies make a contest of this test, but despite the start it's hard to see then competing over multiple sessions never mind several days. I hope I'm wrong.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 25, 2017 11:45:07 GMT
Root dropped again.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 25, 2017 11:46:52 GMT
Our top order batting is being horrifically exposed again. God knows what they'll be like facing Stark and Co.. actually I do know, out for very few runs. The fact we haven't got anyone capable of playing 2,3 and 5 is extremely worrying. At least we have a cracking middle to lower order and bowling attack to keep us competitive. It really is incredible isn't it. Players keep coming and going and they all seem to have a technical flaw. Westley being the most obvious current example. It was obvious from his first game with his off stump guard he'd be vulnerable to a 4th stump line with the occasional straight ball to catch him out LBW. I've no idea what to do about the opener but I'd like to see 3,4,5 as Root, Bairstow, Hayles with Butler at 7 with the gloves. Anyway - a long way to go with England batting down to #9. It would be nice to see the Windies make a contest of this test, but despite the start it's hard to see then competing over multiple sessions never mind several days. I hope I'm wrong. Just dropped Root, could be crucial. As for Westley you're spot on, just bowl 4 or 5 balls outside off stop to get him off balance for the straight ball as his head is too far over. I think Vince had a similar problem last year? I feel a bit sorry for Buttler, I thought this would've been the perfect opportunity to give him another go but looks like he's not even contention currently. It is nice to see the Windies in the contest though I won't lie.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2017 16:22:51 GMT
Yet again our poor top order performance has been rescued somewhat by Root (59) and Stokes currently 100 not out. Moeen was next best with 22. How much longer can we depend on this to get us out of sticky situations ? Certainly we'll be found out big time in Australia against their bowling attacking. Poor performances from Stoneman (19), Westley (3) and Malan (8) must give our selectors a headache to try to come up with a solid and resolute top order before the Ashes with no real time left now. But who else is there that can come in after we've tried so many who have failed ?
Edit : Batting collapse at the end from 258-7 to 258 all out, just to confirm a pretty poor batting performance by England. Down to the bowlers now !
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 25, 2017 16:40:41 GMT
Well done to the Windies.
You exposed the weakness in the England batting line up superbly.
Now show some mettle with the bat and we could have a good test match here.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 25, 2017 17:02:34 GMT
Well done to the Windies. You exposed the weakness in the England batting line up superbly. Now show some mettle with the bat and we could have a good test match here. Bad conditions for them, but I hope they hang in there to at least make the match competitive. England could and probably should have been out for 175!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2017 17:42:40 GMT
Windies 19-1 at the close.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 26, 2017 15:52:54 GMT
The fightback is on!!!
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 28, 2017 5:56:33 GMT
This series isn't grasping the Oatcake imagination much.
Shame as this second test is brewing up nicely. England 3 runs ahead with 7 wickets left as we enter the 4th day.
Mind you, the game could be nearly over if both sides hadn't dropped so many catches - the worst being Moeen's yesterday. Shows, I guess, anyone can fuck up. Consolation for club cricketers everywhere!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 11:19:18 GMT
This could end up being a cracker. If we can set Windies 200 I can see them proper panicking as it's not a situation they're used to being in of late. Hope it goes into tomorrow as I think I'll take a duvet day and head over to Headingley.
Meanwhile over in Bangladesh another potential cracker. Bangladesh end the day 88 in front with 9 wickets left on a wicket that's turning sideways......
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 18:20:33 GMT
Well what a turn around on day 4. New batting record for highest England score without any centuries and set Windies 322 to win.
It should be a really interesting 5th day.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 29, 2017 12:57:38 GMT
Well the Windies got to lunch with just two wickets down and their main men (and centurions from the first innings) at the crease.
Could they do it?
Possibly.
It wouldn't be the first time they've chased down a 300+ target in a second test in England.
That's just an excuse to post this gem from 1984:
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 13:03:55 GMT
Getting a bit tense isn't it ? The Windies just could win this. Currently needing 209 with 8 wickets left and scoring at around 4 runs per over.
Edit : Now 147-2 after 45, so 170 needed with 51 overs left in the game.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 14:17:43 GMT
Tired bowling from England. If Windies get to less than a hundred with Braithwaite/Hope or Blackwood at the crease they'll do this......
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 15:22:46 GMT
199-3 at tea. Looks like the Windies are still on course to win.
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Post by chuckrocky on Aug 29, 2017 15:55:00 GMT
Not managed to watch any today, poor bowling, great batting or a bit of both? Didn't give the Windies a prayer this morning, fair play if they pull it off.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 29, 2017 16:22:17 GMT
Tired bowling from England. If Windies get to less than a hundred with Braithwaite/Hope or Blackwood at the crease they'll do this...... Advantage Windies. Roots betting the house on Anderson and Broad using them a lot with the old ball. They are bowling well but not taking wickets. Will they be able to do the business when the nee ball arrives. The captain seems to have lost faith in Stokes and Ali. Time for Woakes to shine me thinks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 16:29:03 GMT
Tired bowling from England. If Windies get to less than a hundred with Braithwaite/Hope or Blackwood at the crease they'll do this...... Advantage Windies. Roots betting the house on Anderson and Broad using them a lot with the old ball. They are bowling well but not taking wickets. Will they be able to do the business when the nee ball arrives. The captain seems to have lost faith in Stokes and Ali. Time for Woakes to shine me thinks. 4 down, Moeen back and Blackwood in. Fun and games in the next half an hour that's for sure!!!
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