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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 13, 2017 13:12:21 GMT
Initially my thoughts were 'we owe these cunts after last season's home result' then I thought 'actually we lost cos we were utter dog shit'
I'm almost resigned to another loss even though we played well yesterday for good periods of the game. Even with the stadium upgrade I can't help bit thinking it could all be a bit of a damp squid unless we score first.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 13, 2017 14:13:03 GMT
On the basis we will definitely play 3 at the back it has to be;
Butland Zouma, Ryan, Bruno Cameron, Allen, fletcher, pieters Shaq, bojan Diouf
That team is big enough and physical enough to back up bojan and Shaq with choupo to enter the fray when and if bojan struggles again.
Choupo was promising but when we got a corner 10 minutes after his introduction, he was blowing hard. He needs some time to get fully fit.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 13, 2017 15:49:39 GMT
On the basis we will definitely play 3 at the back it has to be; Butland Zouma, Ryan, Bruno Cameron, Allen, fletcher, pieters Shaq, bojan Diouf That team is big enough and physical enough to back up bojan and Shaq with choupo to enter the fray when and if bojan struggles again. Choupo was promising but when we got a corner 10 minutes after his introduction, he was blowing hard. He needs some time to get fully fit. You've dropped berahino, fair enough. What has bojan done to deserve his place in your team?
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Post by cozmick on Aug 13, 2017 15:55:33 GMT
If Hughes drops Berahino he will never play for Stoke again.
If he plays Berahino he will never score for Stoke....Ever.
Bit of a catch 22 situation.
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Post by Miles Offside on Aug 13, 2017 15:57:29 GMT
What side would you pick? I'd go with ................Jack............... .....Zouma......Ryan.....BMI....... ..Diouf......................Eric.. ...........Geoff....Fletch......... ....Shaq.....................Eric.. ................Joselu............. As things stand, I'd go with that - assuming Choupo is fit enough to play.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 13, 2017 16:02:52 GMT
Butland
Cameron Shawcross BMI Ekker
Shaq Zouma Fletcher Moting
Crouch Diouf
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 17:28:54 GMT
Initially my thoughts were 'we owe these cunts after last season's home result' then I thought 'actually we lost cos we were utter dog shit' I'm almost resigned to another loss even though we played well yesterday for good periods of the game. Even with the stadium upgrade I can't help bit thinking it could all be a bit of a damp squid unless we score first. We owe them for 1971 and 1972 Man i dont need an excuse to despise that lot. And yes i hold a grudge 1
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 13, 2017 18:06:14 GMT
On the basis we will definitely play 3 at the back it has to be; Butland Zouma, Ryan, Bruno Cameron, Allen, fletcher, pieters Shaq, bojan Diouf That team is big enough and physical enough to back up bojan and Shaq with choupo to enter the fray when and if bojan struggles again. Choupo was promising but when we got a corner 10 minutes after his introduction, he was blowing hard. He needs some time to get fully fit. You've dropped berahino, fair enough. What has bojan done to deserve his place in your team? Not much in reality by I don't think choupo is fit to start yet.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 18:10:09 GMT
Jack Zouma Ryan indi Diouf Fletcher Allen Erik Shaq saido Wood
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Post by superheroantonius on Aug 13, 2017 18:38:27 GMT
They love to play it out from the back but with three at the back they are narrow and easier to press than before.
We need say 3-5-2 have crouchy and diouf pressing that back three And say sobhi and moting wide and also pressing.
We need to get their wing backs back and helping out their back 3.
Whether hughes likes a high press or not he's going to have to like it for this game.
If we give arsenal time to play it out from the back and let their wing backs get high and wide they will murder us
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Post by VolvicStokie on Aug 13, 2017 18:41:10 GMT
Stick with Saido. He is lethal
He just needs a strike partner.
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Post by duckling on Aug 13, 2017 18:45:37 GMT
If Hughes drops Berahino he will never play for Stoke again. If he plays Berahino he will never score for Stoke....Ever. Bit of a catch 22 situation. And he'll never be trusted with transfer funds every again.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 18:53:32 GMT
My plan for next week would be thus:first, ban Adam and Johnson from approaching within a 5 mile radius of the stadium on matchday then,show the entire first team squad a full match video of last seasons home match against them and the so called lap of honour that followed.Then, Id tell them how unaceptable to the entire stoke on trent community that was and, absolutely No fucking way under any circumstance, would that be acceptable this time around, for we are Stoke, they are Arsenal whom, we detest with a will born some 50 years ago and its fucking dogs against cats.
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Post by robstokie on Aug 13, 2017 18:55:30 GMT
What side would you pick? I'd go with ................Jack............... .....Zouma......Ryan.....BMI....... ..Diouf......................Eric.. ...........Geoff....Fletch......... ....Shaq.....................Eric.. ................Joselu............. Not too far from what I would go with myself actually. Unfortunately, it looks like Joselu and Allen will be out the door as things stand.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 19:21:59 GMT
A. Bricklayer Any of the above in the other positions!
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Post by superheroantonius on Aug 13, 2017 19:52:31 GMT
Just seen this video you tube
All the evidence suggests we play best when the players have sideburns
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 19:54:19 GMT
It's a game that looks like it'll have lots of goals, and since we're not conceeding many let's make sure we play with some players with goals on their mind. In other words no place for Berahino.
Butland - Zouma, Shawcross, Bruno - Diouf, Allen, Fletcher, Pieters - Shaq, Bojan - Joselu.
I'd like Allen to move his game further forward; after all, he is well protected behind him. Make some unexpected runs, not as a 10, but as an 8. He should score one, Shaq should exploit the space Arsenal will afford him and score one screamer. Joselu should sneak in behind those slow defenders and since he likes to score in pairs, he should score two to make it 4-1.
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 13, 2017 20:03:38 GMT
On the basis we will definitely play 3 at the back it has to be; Butland Zouma, Ryan, Bruno Cameron, Allen, fletcher, pieters Shaq, bojan Diouf That team is big enough and physical enough to back up bojan and Shaq with choupo to enter the fray when and if bojan struggles again. Choupo was promising but when we got a corner 10 minutes after his introduction, he was blowing hard. He needs some time to get fully fit. My Mrs is the same after ten mins 😀
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 14, 2017 3:18:36 GMT
We have to play Crouch and hit them with crosses no other chance Any crosses to anyone have to be better than the pathetic offerings at Goodison Park. Rubbish.
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Post by TexasPotter on Aug 14, 2017 3:41:54 GMT
Butland Cameron Shawcross BMI Ekker Shaq Zouma Fletcher Moting Crouch Diouf That might actually work. Johnson and Adam need be nowhere near the starting 11 and I can't justify Allen's running around in midfield versus Arsenal at all. I'd only potentially change Cameron and Zouma's position there but that is a pretty good look to be honest.
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Post by davethebass on Aug 14, 2017 5:05:04 GMT
What side would you pick? I'd go with ................Jack............... .....Zouma......Ryan.....BMI....... ..Diouf......................Eric.. ...........Geoff....Fletch......... ....Shaq.....................Eric.. ................Joselu............. Has to be this team , a pair of Eric's eh ? Two 'Eric the Half a Bee's makes a whole bee!
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Aug 14, 2017 5:55:14 GMT
Butland
Cameron shawcross BMI Eric
Fletcher zouma
Shaq Allen EMCM
Crouch
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Post by abudhabistokie82 on Aug 14, 2017 6:06:29 GMT
Bit left field but....
Butland Zouma Shawcross BMI Fletcher Allen Diouf Ramadan Shaqiri Bera Moting
Swapping from 3421 to 3412 gives Bera the partner he craves and Moting looks physical enough to provide the assistance he needs with Shaqiri pulling the strings in a more central role.
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Post by akstoke93 on Aug 14, 2017 10:32:08 GMT
------------Butland-----------
-----Zouma--Shawcross---BMI--------
Diouf-----------------------Cameron
----------Fletch---Allen----------
Jese------------------------Shaq
--------------Bera--------------
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 15, 2017 13:06:50 GMT
Assuming Hessay (haha, only joking, trousers!) signs today, and both he and Bruno are match fit, we suddenly have a selection dilemma for the weekend.
Not only is it going to be tough to give everyone who thinks he should start a game, but we also have to consider that we are playing "they don't like it up 'em, Cap'n Mainwaring" Arsenal. Last weekend showed their powder puff defence is still in situ, despite signing that man mountain from Schalke. We would be foolish to try to "outfootball" them, but we could pressurise and overpower them.
I'd go for a horses for courses team, designed to be strong and resilient, to fight for every ball:
Butland
Zouma Shawcross Bruno Martins Indi
Cameron Fletcher Allen Pieters
Shaqiri Diouf Choupo-Moting Subs: Grant, Johnson, Adam, Bojan, Ramadan, Crouch, Jese
Right now I can't find a place for Berahino in the squad, which says everything about my view of his impact on the team!
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Post by shrewspotter on Aug 15, 2017 13:12:21 GMT
I will go similar and 100% agree re Saido
Butland Zouma-Shawcross-Indi Diouf-Fletch-Allen-Pieters Shaq-Jese-Choupo
Subs Grant, Johnson, Adam, Ramadan, Crouch, Cameron, Bojan
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Post by ohbottom on Aug 15, 2017 13:15:32 GMT
I'd be delighted to see Diouf given a go up front (I said before I thought he was currently our best striker) but not so sure about Cam at RWB. Apart from Berahino, LMH seems obsessed with buying winger/forwards rather than actual strikers. But then, if he splashed out on a big(ish) name striker it's tantamount to admitting he fucked up buying Bera.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 15, 2017 14:28:47 GMT
What we need next week is the total opposite to what we got back in May against them.Manager and players up for this game and also the crowd. Also dont adopt tactics that they love to play against , we know how to beat them , we have to play for the result on the day
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Post by Northy on Aug 15, 2017 14:35:14 GMT
I will go similar and 100% agree re Saido Butland Zouma-Shawcross-Indi Diouf-Fletch-Allen-Pieters Shaq-Jese-Choupo Subs Grant, Johnson, Adam, Ramadan, Crouch, Cameron, Bojan same here, but Berahino on the bench instead of Bojan
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Post by scfc75 on Aug 15, 2017 14:35:37 GMT
What side would you pick? I'd go with ................Jack............... .....Zouma......Ryan.....BMI....... ..Diouf......................Eric.. ...........Geoff....Fletch......... ....Shaq.....................Eric.. ................Joselu............. Has to be this team , a pair of Eric's eh ? What's the collective noun for a pair of Erics?
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