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Post by thehoof on Aug 11, 2017 22:29:29 GMT
Butland Cameron Shawcross Zouma Pieters Allen. Fletcher Diouf. Shaq. Sobhi Berahino I wouldn't mess about with 3-4-3 until we have the players for it. I think I'd go with this rather than 3-4-3 until Bruno's in the side.
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Post by kustokie on Aug 11, 2017 23:19:50 GMT
Butland Zouma Shawcross Cameron Diouf Allen Fletcher Pieters Shaqiri Bojan Berahino or Butland Johnson Zouma Shawcross Pieters Allen Fletcher Shaqiri Bojan Ramadan Berahino I'd guess hughes will go for the former After watching Arse this afternoon (they were dreadful at the back), I can't see three at the back working without Martins Indi in the line-up. I'd go with four at the back, with Fletcher and Cameron in front of them. That does not leave many options for right back: either Johnson or Diouf: Butland Johnson Zouma Shawcross Pieters Fletcher Cameron Diouf Shaqiri Sohbi Joselu (or Crouch) That's not much improvement on last season (if any), but that's where we stand. Berahino can't play up front by himself, so I wouldn't bother starting him. In fact he is only going to be effective in a 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 formation. IMHO
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Post by Stokyo on Aug 11, 2017 23:26:46 GMT
I will be relying on the oatcake commentary for this one as i am in Korea. Dont let me down.
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Post by musik on Aug 11, 2017 23:49:21 GMT
Butland Cameron-Zouma-Shawcross-Pieters Shaqiri-Allen-Fletcher-Sobhi --------Diouf-Berahino--------
Subs: Grant, Tymon, Choupo-Moting, Johnson, Imbula, Bojan, Crouch
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Post by mermaidsal on Aug 12, 2017 0:06:28 GMT
Rotten way to start a season but I truly can't see where we can find a point tomorrow. Just being honest, love to be wrong...
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Post by somersetstokie on Aug 12, 2017 0:08:27 GMT
Assuming the defence play well today, there then immediately becomes a problem one match in, of needing to change the line up to accommodate Bruno. Someone may be unfairly dropped, unless Bruno has a spell on the bench which is unlikely.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 12, 2017 0:21:59 GMT
Rotten way to start a season but I truly can't see where we can find a point tomorrow. Just being honest, love to be wrong... Really? Who would you rather face, Everton of last season with Lukaku, or Everton this season without and millions spent on, well spent on a lot of decent but unspectacular players?
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Post by kustokie on Aug 12, 2017 2:04:16 GMT
Rotten way to start a season but I truly can't see where we can find a point tomorrow. Just being honest, love to be wrong... Really? Who would you rather face, Everton of last season with Lukaku, or Everton this season without and millions spent on, well spent on a lot of decent but unspectacular players? Unlike Stoke who also sold their best player and then spent next to nothing!
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Post by mattador78 on Aug 12, 2017 5:33:04 GMT
I will be relying on the oatcake commentary for this one as i am in Korea. Dont let me down. Better hope you aren't glowing by kick off
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Post by Ex-term-oat-cake on Aug 12, 2017 6:04:32 GMT
We need to play a team based on the merits of the players we have, which means 3-5-2 imo:
Zouma Ryan Cameron (cos BMI ineligible) Diouf Allen Shaqiri Fletcher Sobhi Berahino Maxim
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Post by iamcliveclarke on Aug 12, 2017 6:39:17 GMT
We need to play a team based on the merits of the players we have, which means 3-5-2 imo: Zouma Ryan Cameron (cos BMI ineligible) Diouf Allen Shaqiri Fletcher Sobhi Berahino Maxim Can't see Hughesy dropping EP
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Post by Ex-term-oat-cake on Aug 12, 2017 7:09:18 GMT
We need to play a team based on the merits of the players we have, which means 3-5-2 imo: Zouma Ryan Cameron (cos BMI ineligible) Diouf Allen Shaqiri Fletcher Sobhi Berahino Maxim Can't see Hughesy dropping EP Then I'd push Shaq up with Saido and go 4-4-2. We need two up front: Zouma Ryan Cameron Pieters Diouf Allen Fletcher Sobhi Shaq Saido
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 12, 2017 7:18:41 GMT
Looks like the only choice today will be between Sobhi and Bojan?
Butland Zouma Shawcross Cameron Diouf Fletcher Allen Pieters Shaq Bojan or Sobhi Berahino
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Post by lordb on Aug 12, 2017 7:31:38 GMT
Looks like the only choice today will be between Sobhi and Bojan? Butland Zouma Shawcross Cameron Diouf Fletcher Allen Pieters Shaq Bojan or Sobhi Berahino Unless he plays two strikers
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 12, 2017 7:36:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 7:59:18 GMT
What I think it will be (rather than what I think it should be):
Zouma - Shawcross - Cameron
Diouf - Fletcher - Allen - Pieters
Shaq - Berahino - Sobhi
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Post by stavangerpotter81 on Aug 12, 2017 7:59:22 GMT
Rotten way to start a season but I truly can't see where we can find a point tomorrow. Just being honest, love to be wrong... Really? Who would you rather face, Everton of last season with Lukaku, or Everton this season without and millions spent on, well spent on a lot of decent but unspectacular players? I really don't get the clamour surrounding Everton. Yes they have spent money but on what. I would be very unhappy if we had spunked the money they have on those players.
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 12, 2017 8:18:29 GMT
Evertons last four opening games have been draws. What will transpire today?
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 12, 2017 8:24:56 GMT
Berahino is not a lone striker, so why does Hughes insist on playing him has one?
If we are losing and haven't scored, instead of replacing Berahino with another striker, just bring on a striker to play up front with Berahino.
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Post by stokemark on Aug 12, 2017 9:49:14 GMT
Looking at these suggestions it is clear we have totally failed to address the need for pace in our starting 11
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 10:17:50 GMT
I like the superficial view some of the pundits are taking, predicting we will go down - failing to recognize the squad overhaul that is underway ( and, was badly overdue)
We only need to win 10 games to stay in the league and yet some so called 'experts' predict our demise
they simply cant see past our ins and outs and our 'unknown quantities'
I think another player or two will still arrive and - we will be fine
win today and its 9 to go !
and lastly, Chuopo Moting - watch this lad go
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 12, 2017 10:24:06 GMT
I like the superficial view some of the pundits are taking, predicting we will go down - failing to recognize the squad overhaul that is underway ( and, was badly overdue) We only need to win 10 games to stay in the league and yet some so called 'experts' predict our demise they simply cant see past our ins and outs and our 'unknown quantities' I think another player or two will still arrive and - we will be fine win today and its 9 to go ! and lastly, Chuopo Moting - watch this lad go I agree, there are plenty of positives, one being this might be a good time to catch Everton? It could be a sticky time for The Toffees.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 12, 2017 10:27:16 GMT
Looks like the only choice today will be between Sobhi and Bojan? Butland Zouma Shawcross Cameron Diouf Fletcher Allen Pieters Shaq Bojan or Sobhi Berahino He could whack Choupo up front FM, given his height.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 10:43:40 GMT
What ever he plays the talking is over , time for action
Goaaaaarn Stoke
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 12, 2017 10:52:24 GMT
Is Joselu back in town after his wifes birth? Hope he at least makes the bench.
Time to be positive - go on Stoke
Lets hope Berahino gets a tap-in
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 12, 2017 10:52:38 GMT
This will be the best time to play this game this season. We are underdogs. Experts saying we will go down. Everton are the big spenders, but they haven't bonded together yet.
A great opportunity the players and manager should be excited about
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Post by marrer on Aug 12, 2017 11:03:48 GMT
Evening from Oz fellow Stokies. Been dodging kangaroos to get back home in time to fire up the laptop and find the channel we get over here. Can't wait for this, got a good feeling. Hi Joe if you are online and Darkside. Here's to a great result. Cheers Rog
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Post by datguy on Aug 12, 2017 11:19:11 GMT
Butland; Zouma, Shawcross, Cameron; Diouf, Fletcher, Allen, Pieters; Shaqiri, Bojan; Berahino
COME ON STOKE!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 11:39:33 GMT
Butland; Zouma, Shawcross, Cameron; Diouf, Fletcher, Allen, Pieters; Shaqiri, Bojan; Berahino COME ON STOKE! Swap Bojan for Berahino and Joselu to lead the line!😬 Also swap GCam for BMI 😀
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Post by Gods on Aug 12, 2017 11:44:42 GMT
Is Joselu back in town after his wifes birth? Hope he at least makes the bench. Time to be positive - go on Stoke Lets hope Berahino gets a tap-in Hopefully, that was about 25 years ago.
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