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Post by agingerstokie on Jul 19, 2017 18:21:21 GMT
At Chelsea is a goalkeeper called Matej Delac, who signed for the club in September 2009.
Delac has played a total of 154 games across nine seasons for Inter Zapresic, Vitesse, Dynamo Ceske Budejovice, Vitoria de Guimaraes, Vojvodina, Sarajevo, Arles-Avignon and Excel Mouscron. He has never played for Chelsea.
That's nuts. I imagine most of their squad is a similar thing. People are right when they say they must make millions out of it. I think they are the only club I know of to do it so extensively
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Post by breakonthrough on Jul 19, 2017 18:25:25 GMT
At Chelsea is a goalkeeper called Matej Delac, who signed for the club in September 2009. Delac has played a total of 154 games across nine seasons for Inter Zapresic, Vitesse, Dynamo Ceske Budejovice, Vitoria de Guimaraes, Vojvodina, Sarajevo, Arles-Avignon and Excel Mouscron. He has never played for Chelsea. That's nuts. I imagine most of their squad is a similar thing. People are right when they say they must make millions out of it. I think they are the only club I know of to do it so extensively I read somewhere that he's now their longest serving player and I don't think he's played a single game for them. Joker's!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 18:35:37 GMT
At Chelsea is a goalkeeper called Matej Delac, who signed for the club in September 2009. Delac has played a total of 154 games across nine seasons for Inter Zapresic, Vitesse, Dynamo Ceske Budejovice, Vitoria de Guimaraes, Vojvodina, Sarajevo, Arles-Avignon and Excel Mouscron. He has never played for Chelsea. That's nuts. I imagine most of their squad is a similar thing. People are right when they say they must make millions out of it. I think they are the only club I know of to do it so extensively They had almost 30 players out on loan last season. Very clever source of income which helped bend the ffp rules over the last few years.
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Post by Squeekster on Jul 19, 2017 18:38:45 GMT
Look at the premier league they usually have 3,4 of 5 players on loan in there so if look at it another way that could be 6 to 10 games where the opposition will be weakened by the fact they can't play against the parent club, usually as a rule they do ask for guaranteed starting places when fit.
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Post by salopstick on Jul 19, 2017 18:43:33 GMT
There should be a maximum loan out amount of players. No more than 6. This is stifling young talent everywhere.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jul 19, 2017 18:45:03 GMT
I bet they make a decent profit out of It overall
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Post by mattythestokie on Jul 19, 2017 18:49:37 GMT
I just don't get why the players/agents agree to signing new contracts.
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Post by unknown182 on Jul 19, 2017 18:52:50 GMT
I'd love it if the league just slapped down a loan cap. Their entire setup would be screwed.
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Post by alster on Jul 19, 2017 18:55:09 GMT
I just don't get why the players/agents agree to signing new contracts. You don't? Get payed Chelsea wages while playing out on loan, in many cases in Holland and other much lower paying leagues.
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Post by mattythestokie on Jul 19, 2017 18:57:55 GMT
I just don't get why the players/agents agree to signing new contracts. You don't? Get payed Chelsea wages while playing out on loan, in many cases in Holland and other much lower paying leagues. No settled job, no settled countries for them and their family, no settled life. I still don't get it
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Post by TexasPotter on Jul 19, 2017 19:03:23 GMT
Chelsea overburden clubs with loan fees and recall the good ones for their first team and then farm out to oblivion the rest, but they the players like Bego take those decent wages and usually spoil a good career. Sad really.
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Post by alster on Jul 19, 2017 19:03:51 GMT
You don't? Get payed Chelsea wages while playing out on loan, in many cases in Holland and other much lower paying leagues. No settled job, no settled countries for them and their family, no settled life. I still don't get it I think maybe that makes you a bit thick.
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Post by lordb on Jul 19, 2017 19:06:27 GMT
You don't? Get payed Chelsea wages while playing out on loan, in many cases in Holland and other much lower paying leagues. No settled job, no settled countries for them and their family, no settled life. I still don't get it They will get far more money
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Post by sanmarinostokie on Jul 19, 2017 19:13:02 GMT
At Chelsea is a goalkeeper called Matej Delac, who signed for the club in September 2009. Delac has played a total of 154 games across nine seasons for Inter Zapresic, Vitesse, Dynamo Ceske Budejovice, Vitoria de Guimaraes, Vojvodina, Sarajevo, Arles-Avignon and Excel Mouscron. He has never played for Chelsea. That's nuts. I imagine most of their squad is a similar thing. People are right when they say they must make millions out of it. I think they are the only club I know of to do it so extensively I read somewhere that he's now their longest serving player and I don't think he's played a single game for them. Joker's! Yeah. He is. Been there since 2010 I believe.
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Post by 3putts on Jul 19, 2017 19:21:10 GMT
They are playing within the rules blame the prem for allowing this too happen. There should be a max amount of loans you are allowed but guess the prem don't give a fuck as long as the ££££ keep rolling in
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Post by djduncanjames on Jul 19, 2017 19:33:47 GMT
Wonder how many Chelsea loannes have been in a promoted championship side? I always felt they could manipulate the football League like this to their benefit. Let alone the premier league. For instance I bet they would refuse to loan Zouma to Liverpool
I remember Collymore going nuts on Talksport years ago saying they had 55 players out on loan! 55 !
Something doesnt sit right with this to me
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Post by LH_SCFC on Jul 19, 2017 19:39:43 GMT
You don't? Get payed Chelsea wages while playing out on loan, in many cases in Holland and other much lower paying leagues. No settled job, no settled countries for them and their family, no settled life. I still don't get it The ability to travel for your living, and get paid handsomely, is a major attraction to most young business professionals nowadays. Swap the business suit for a football kit and multiply the handsome pay packet by ten, whilst working far less hours - get it yet?
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Post by baystokie on Jul 19, 2017 19:45:30 GMT
Wonder how many Chelsea loannes have been in a promoted championship side? I always felt they could manipulate the football League like this to their benefit. Let alone the premier league. For instance I bet they would refuse to loan Zouma to Liverpool I remember Collymore going nuts on Talksport years ago saying they had 55 players out on loan! 55 ! Something doesnt sit right with this to me It's highly unlikely that Chelsea's top 6 rivals would want any of the lower-grade players that must make up the majority in Chelsea's 'loan stable'. However, just imagine if they could infiltrate loanees into the top 6 so that they could weaken their opponents in at least 2 matches.
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Post by chad on Jul 19, 2017 19:51:29 GMT
It's about time this nonsense was stopped
Two simple rules 1 you can't loan players to teams in the same division 2 you can't loan out more than six players at any time
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Post by baystokie on Jul 19, 2017 20:25:43 GMT
It's about time this nonsense was stopped Two simple rules 1 you can't loan players to teams in the same division 2 you can't loan out more than six players at any time So Stoke and other teams of their means can only borrow players from Championship or lower? The players they would possibly want would likely be the better players at their club? Managers of those clubs won't want to lose their best players on loan to 'richer' Prem clubs. At lower levels, it may be more justified. As for no more than 6 players, only the richer clubs HAVE 6 or more players available for loan! I am wondering what it is that irks us so much. Is it that the richest clubs are seen to be running the game for their benefit OR the fact that WE cannot indulge ourselves in the racket (but wojuld IF we could) OR a pure, altruistic feeling for the good of the game? Not too sure which!
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jul 19, 2017 20:34:14 GMT
I cant believe there hasnt been more of an issue raised with footballs administrators.
Its a clear loophole that Chelsea are using to their financial benefit, to the detriment of young players and fair competition
It stinks to high heaven what Chelsea are doing, they are a smelly club
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jul 19, 2017 20:38:13 GMT
It's about time this nonsense was stopped Two simple rules 1 you can't loan players to teams in the same division 2 you can't loan out more than six players at any time So Stoke and other teams of their means can only borrow players from Championship or lower? The players they would possibly want would likely be the better players at their club? Managers of those clubs won't want to lose their best players on loan to 'richer' Prem clubs. At lower levels, it may be more justified. As for no more than 6 players, only the richer clubs HAVE 6 or more players available for loan! I am wondering what it is that irks us so much. Is it that the richest clubs are seen to be running the game for their benefit OR the fact that WE cannot indulge ourselves in the racket (but wojuld IF we could) OR a pure, altruistic feeling for the good of the game? Not too sure which! To be fair I think even a Chelsea fan would be stretched to justify what their club is doing. They might think it is smart financial management, but on any kind of sporting level theres not much to be proud of using this system. Its not like these loan players are being used for first-team preparation at Chelsea (bar the odd exception) So whats the point? And NO I wouldnt like to see Stoke do this. Also note I dont see the other big 6 clubs going down this route whilst there is nothing to stop them. I think most club owners would consider this distateful apart from Abramovich who of course is Russian and obviously has no taste judging by his hairdo
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jul 19, 2017 20:39:05 GMT
Fair play to them for it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 20:42:42 GMT
Least the kids are playing football.
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Post by djduncanjames on Jul 19, 2017 21:09:18 GMT
It's about time this nonsense was stopped Two simple rules 1 you can't loan players to teams in the same division 2 you can't loan out more than six players at any time So Stoke and other teams of their means can only borrow players from Championship or lower? The players they would possibly want would likely be the better players at their club? Managers of those clubs won't want to lose their best players on loan to 'richer' Prem clubs. At lower levels, it may be more justified. As for no more than 6 players, only the richer clubs HAVE 6 or more players available for loan! I am wondering what it is that irks us so much. Is it that the richest clubs are seen to be running the game for their benefit OR the fact that WE cannot indulge ourselves in the racket (but wojuld IF we could) OR a pure, altruistic feeling for the good of the game? Not too sure which! Well look at What Man City are doing. Pricing their own players out of a possible future move. You watch Bony will stay until his contract ends, no other clubs can afford him. There are tonnes of other examples I'm sure
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jul 19, 2017 21:12:46 GMT
I bet half of them are fucking shit too.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 19, 2017 22:10:42 GMT
Great business model. Makes then fortunes.
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Post by Northy on Jan 15, 2018 16:34:05 GMT
I see Abramovich has been granted Jersey resident rights, a few quid passed into somebodies bank account somewhere to help speed up the process
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Post by knowingeye on Jan 15, 2018 16:40:48 GMT
I just don't get why the players/agents agree to signing new contracts. ¥€$ you do know
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jan 15, 2018 16:48:42 GMT
think Zouma cost us £7.5m for a season long loan. Just think about that for a minute then extrapolate it across 30 loanees. I know they wouldn’t all attract that kind of fee but if it averages £2m that’s a nice little earner. I wonder if we get a fee for our loaned out players?
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