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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 11, 2017 22:03:05 GMT
Happy that he's signing but he was still part of a defence that got ripped a new arsehole a few times last season, something needs to change.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 11, 2017 22:03:28 GMT
Can we have some knicker wetters commenting on this news please... I'll just sit back and chill with a few beers....😀 Well done Scholes ! 👍 Don't worry I just did 😂
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 11, 2017 22:03:32 GMT
That's more like it.
Send Arnie on his way and get another big signing in.
Onward and upward.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 11, 2017 22:03:45 GMT
Can we have some knicker wetters commenting on this news please... I'll just sit back and chill with a few beers....😀 Well done Scholes ! 👍 Well done? We're paying 5m than we thought we had agreed 12 months ago. How is that well done?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 11, 2017 22:04:29 GMT
Even Kirsty is on the case
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Post by claytonscrubs on Jul 11, 2017 22:06:17 GMT
Can we have some knicker wetters commenting on this news please... I'll just sit back and chill with a few beers....😀 Well done Scholes ! 👍 Well done? We're paying 5m than we thought we had agreed 12 months ago. How is that well done? No comment..😉
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Post by lordb on Jul 11, 2017 22:06:32 GMT
Can we have some knicker wetters commenting on this news please... I'll just sit back and chill with a few beers....😀 Well done Scholes ! 👍 Well done? We're paying 5m than we thought we had agreed 12 months ago. How is that well done? Depends on what Porto were asking for? We may have talked them down, we just don't know. When did pre season start? A week ago? That's not a problem.
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Post by robstokie on Jul 11, 2017 22:08:17 GMT
GET. THE. FUCK. IN.
If we are looking to get Zouma in as well though, it looks like Ryan might be off then...
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 11, 2017 22:08:23 GMT
I'm very pleased we're doing the deal, even at this price.
But Porto have done very well to get £13.5m for a player with 12 months left on his deal that they don't really want. Some clubs just have the knack!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 11, 2017 22:09:57 GMT
Well done? We're paying 5m than we thought we had agreed 12 months ago. How is that well done? Depends on what Porto were asking for? We may have talked them down, we just don't know. When did pre season start? A week ago? That's not a problem. We had a clause in the deal. It should have been legally binding. We clearly thought it was until the small print was read. It was widely reported it was for 8? million euros. Now we've got people patting him on the back for paying more than we thought we had agreed. Ever likely he gets away with murder.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 11, 2017 22:10:05 GMT
Should of been signed before they came back for season. Shit Stoke.
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Post by samba :) on Jul 11, 2017 22:11:27 GMT
Happy that he's signing but he was still part of a defence that got ripped a new arsehole a few times last season, something needs to change. the full backs
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Post by lordb on Jul 11, 2017 22:12:46 GMT
Should of been signed before they came back for season. Shit Stoke. It's late/I'm tired. Is that a piss take?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 11, 2017 22:12:58 GMT
Depends on what Porto were asking for? We may have talked them down, we just don't know. When did pre season start? A week ago? That's not a problem. We had a clause in the deal. It should have been legally binding. We clearly thought it was until the small print was read. It was widely reported it was for 8? million euros. Now we've got people patting him on the back for paying more than we thought we had agreed. Ever likely he gets away with murder. It's possible we're not paying that much more than we agreed. Was supposed to be 10m euros. Now the top-line figure is about 14.5m euros - but we don't know what that extra 4.5m euros are based on. The initial payment may be considerably less? Sloppy, but I'm glad we've taken our medicine and got him in early(ish)
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 11, 2017 22:16:09 GMT
Happy that he's signing but he was still part of a defence that got ripped a new arsehole a few times last season, something needs to change. the full backs Looks unlikely this season, I get the feeling we're hoping Edwards will kick on and challenge in a couple of seasons and just hang on to what we have for the time being.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Jul 11, 2017 22:16:23 GMT
Happy, happy days, Bruno, Bruno,Bruno.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 11, 2017 22:16:27 GMT
We had a clause in the deal. It should have been legally binding. We clearly thought it was until the small print was read. It was widely reported it was for 8? million euros. Now we've got people patting him on the back for paying more than we thought we had agreed. Ever likely he gets away with murder. It's possible we're not paying that much more than we agreed. Was supposed to be 10m euros. Now the top-line figure is about 14.5m euros - but we don't know what that extra 4.5m euros are based on. The initial payment may be considerably less? Sloppy, but I'm glad we've taken our medicine and got him in early(ish) Me too but how many times has shit like this been glossed over? We shouldn't be sloppy. We shouldn't accept sloppy. I don't get how a business as clinically run as bet365 does accept it. Bruno is worth it but it should never have come to this and he should have been signed 2 months ago at the latest.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 11, 2017 22:16:27 GMT
I'm very pleased we're doing the deal, even at this price. But Porto have done very well to get £13.5m for a player with 12 months left on his deal that they don't really want. Some clubs just have the knack! It's a fee rising to 13m so what's to say he hasn't signed at the agreed fee but have insisted on certain clauses being inserted such was his form with us? A fee rising to 13m is a good deal for Bruno despite the fact that he is nowhere near the colossus that some would have us believe. Zouma would be an even better acquisition.
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Post by jonnybravo on Jul 11, 2017 22:17:21 GMT
I think if zouma signs it's good bye Shawcross
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 22:17:24 GMT
Depends on what Porto were asking for? We may have talked them down, we just don't know. When did pre season start? A week ago? That's not a problem. We had a clause in the deal. It should have been legally binding. We clearly thought it was until the small print was read. It was widely reported it was for 8? million euros. Now we've got people patting him on the back for paying more than we thought we had agreed. Ever likely he gets away with murder.
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Post by sanmarinostokie on Jul 11, 2017 22:18:08 GMT
Can we have some knicker wetters commenting on this news please... I'll just sit back and chill with a few beers....😀 Well done Scholes ! 👍 Agree completely. The rampant positivity left me feeling a little uneasy... Then, out of absolutely nowhere, up pops bayern to criticise Tony scholes. And normal service is resumed.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 11, 2017 22:18:13 GMT
I think if zouma signs it's good bye Shawcross or hello back 3?
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Post by lordb on Jul 11, 2017 22:18:24 GMT
It's possible we're not paying that much more than we agreed. Was supposed to be 10m euros. Now the top-line figure is about 14.5m euros - but we don't know what that extra 4.5m euros are based on. The initial payment may be considerably less? Sloppy, but I'm glad we've taken our medicine and got him in early(ish) Me too but how many times has shit like this been glossed over? We shouldn't be sloppy. We shouldn't accept sloppy. I don't get how a business as clinically run as bet365 does accept it. Bruno is worth it but it should never have come to this and he should have been signed 2 months ago at the latest. Why? He's missed a week of pre season and one friendly.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 11, 2017 22:19:01 GMT
I'm very pleased we're doing the deal, even at this price. But Porto have done very well to get £13.5m for a player with 12 months left on his deal that they don't really want. Some clubs just have the knack! It's a fee rising to 13m so what's to say he hasn't signed at the agreed fee but have insisted on certain clauses being inserted such was his form with us? A fee rising to 13m is a good deal for Bruno despite the fact that he is nowhere near the colossus that some would have us believe. Zouma would be an even better acquisition. If it was in a clause and the fee was set then it shouldn't even come into it. It was a fuck up.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 11, 2017 22:19:53 GMT
I think if zouma signs it's good bye Shawcross I've been thinking this may be his last season for a little while now, he didn't look too steady at all last season, I know he was coming back but still.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 11, 2017 22:22:13 GMT
Me too but how many times has shit like this been glossed over? We shouldn't be sloppy. We shouldn't accept sloppy. I don't get how a business as clinically run as bet365 does accept it. Bruno is worth it but it should never have come to this and he should have been signed 2 months ago at the latest. Why? He's missed a week of pre season and one friendly. Because if you have a clause in a deal it should be legally binding and shouldn't need negotiating. How is that even remotely acceptable? Do I live in a parallel universe where paying 5m than you thought you were going to is ok? And where having a clause in a deal that you thought was binding actually wasn't? How are either of those things ok? Alls well that ends well but it shouldn't happen.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 11, 2017 22:22:37 GMT
It's a fee rising to 13m so what's to say he hasn't signed at the agreed fee but have insisted on certain clauses being inserted such was his form with us? A fee rising to 13m is a good deal for Bruno despite the fact that he is nowhere near the colossus that some would have us believe. Zouma would be an even better acquisition. If it was in a clause and the fee was set then it shouldn't even come into it. It was a fuck up. Who cares? It isn't your money. Just celebrate the fact that we've paid money for a player and are seemingly not on the breadline when it comes to transfer fees.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 22:22:44 GMT
I'm very pleased we're doing the deal, even at this price. But Porto have done very well to get £13.5m for a player with 12 months left on his deal that they don't really want. Some clubs just have the knack! Is £13.5m in today's money that much more than £8m was two years ago
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Post by Davef on Jul 11, 2017 22:24:34 GMT
There's a lot of speculation, and not much else, about what was agreed with Porto last summer. Did Stoke actually mention £8M? They said there was a clause or an option to buy him this summer and guess what, we're going to sign him!
As DaveJohnno says, it's a deal which could rise to £13M. Who the hell knows what's involved here? Do you know what bonuses, a signing on fee and other things are involved? Do you know how much of this £13M is going to Porto?
For crying out loud, chill out and enjoy the fact that we're going to sign a good player.
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Post by jonnybravo on Jul 11, 2017 22:24:40 GMT
I think if zouma signs it's good bye Shawcross I've been thinking this may be his last season for a little while now, he didn't look too steady at all last season, I know he was coming back but still. Maybe Hughes is looking at a totally fresh looking back 4
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