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Post by trickydicky73 on Jun 26, 2017 18:27:31 GMT
Please watch this regularly and tell me there is no left wing bias in television.
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yoc
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Post by yoc on Jun 28, 2017 6:33:59 GMT
Yes, the BBC and Channel 4 news certainly seem to have cranked up the Left wing bias, since they were enboldened by the rise of Jeremy Corbyn? You're lucky to get a balanced panel on any political discussion on the BBC, Question time has become regularly unbalanced?
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jun 28, 2017 6:44:37 GMT
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 28, 2017 7:23:53 GMT
Jon Snow was on the Today programme last week, but John Humphries was out of the studio, leading some to speculate that they're one & the same person...
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Post by rat on Jun 28, 2017 7:41:05 GMT
Jon Snow is a decent human being who has held many a politician, both left and right, to account. His comments (if true, which I don't believe for a second) really shouldn't come as any sort of surprise to anyone as the current lot of Tories such as Reece-Mogg, Redwood, Cash et al are about as morally bankrupt as it's possible for any Tory politician to be.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jun 28, 2017 12:33:57 GMT
Are Channel 4 not allowed to be biased?
Definitely left leaning but is it against the law?
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Post by 3putts on Jun 28, 2017 13:21:15 GMT
everytime the bbc/channel 4 report the NEWS if it doesnt favour the tories they come out with this leftist bullshit.
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Post by Gods on Jun 28, 2017 13:33:45 GMT
I think the private news outlets can do what they like and frequently do just as the newspapers do.
The BBC must tread a path down the centre. I suppose all you can really do as a producer at the BBC is take the view if you are getting roughly the same amount of belly aching about your coverage from the right as the left you are probably getting things about right.
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Post by woodstein on Jun 28, 2017 13:40:09 GMT
Jon Snow is a decent human being who has held many a politician, both left and right, to account. His comments (if true, which I don't believe for a second) really shouldn't come as any sort of surprise to anyone as the current lot of Tories such as Reece-Mogg, Redwood, Cash et al are about as morally bankrupt as it's possible for any Tory politician to be. I bet he has, both left and right handed!
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jun 28, 2017 14:55:03 GMT
Are Channel 4 not allowed to be biased? Definitely left leaning but is it against the law? Surely it's their job to report the news? Lately it's one long sneering rant against anything Tory or Brexit. I'd say the same if they were anti Labour to the same extent, by the way.
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Post by yeokel on Jun 28, 2017 16:31:25 GMT
I think the private news outlets can do what they like and frequently do just as the newspapers do....... Given the above, it is odd to remember that Channel 4 is 'owned and operated' by the Department for Culture, Media & Sport - which is itself a UK government department. So, when push comes to shove, Ch4 is owned and run by the government.
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Post by flashman on Jun 28, 2017 16:53:41 GMT
I suppose it matters not if you are aware of any perceived political pandering. ..the problem arises if you are not aware . You can never prevent one eyed blinkered people from doing their jobs unless they blatantly over step their impartiality.
This happens in all walks of life from the police to crown court judges etc...
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Post by Gods on Jun 28, 2017 17:07:20 GMT
I think the private news outlets can do what they like and frequently do just as the newspapers do....... Given the above, it is odd to remember that Channel 4 is 'owned and operated' by the Department for Culture, Media & Sport - which is itself a UK government department. So, when push comes to shove, Ch4 is owned and run by the government. I didn't realise that, commercially funded but somehow ultimately owned by the Department for Culture, Media and Sport as you say. It all looks fiendishly complicated, I don't pretend to fully understand it!
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Post by flashman on Jun 28, 2017 17:12:51 GMT
Given the above, it is odd to remember that Channel 4 is 'owned and operated' by the Department for Culture, Media & Sport - which is itself a UK government department. So, when push comes to shove, Ch4 is owned and run by the government. I didn't realise that, commercially funded but somehow ultimately owned by the Department for Culture, Media and Sport as you say. It all looks fiendishly complicated, I don't pretend to fully understand it! I tend to concentrate on the cleavage .
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Post by manmarking on Jun 28, 2017 17:26:29 GMT
I didn't realise that, commercially funded but somehow ultimately owned by the Department for Culture, Media and Sport as you say. It all looks fiendishly complicated, I don't pretend to fully understand it! I tend to concentrate on the cleavage . Solid way to hit the half-century and upgrade to Lads and Dads status, fella. Revel in that green star - you're well on the way back
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jun 28, 2017 18:24:43 GMT
Are Channel 4 not allowed to be biased? Definitely left leaning but is it against the law? Surely it's their job to report the news? Lately it's one long sneering rant against anything Tory or Brexit. I'd say the same if they were anti Labour to the same extent, by the way. They do report the news though.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jun 28, 2017 21:52:53 GMT
Surely it's their job to report the news? Lately it's one long sneering rant against anything Tory or Brexit. I'd say the same if they were anti Labour to the same extent, by the way. They do report the news though. Not impartially.
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Post by rat on Jun 28, 2017 22:50:14 GMT
I tend to concentrate on the cleavage . Solid way to hit the half-century and upgrade to Lads and Dads status, fella. Revel in that green star - you're well on the way back Oh, he's back all right...
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jun 29, 2017 10:17:09 GMT
Adam Smith Institute guest touches a raw nerve in Jon Snow....
Seems old man Snow isn't as nice as he makes out...
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jun 29, 2017 11:59:14 GMT
They do report the news though. Not impartially. It's still news. Lots of broadcasters are not impartial as with the written press. You only need to look at the BBC - they're both left and right depending on the opposite of your beliefs.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jun 29, 2017 22:20:27 GMT
It's still news. Lots of broadcasters are not impartial as with the written press. You only need to look at the BBC - they're both left and right depending on the opposite of your beliefs. It's not the news, it's a certain version of the news that suits the newspapers owner or the personal politics of the programme producer and interviewer. All well and good if it's a privately funded but the BBC isn't. It's a criminal offence for us not to fund them. They have a duty to report the news impartially without sensationalism, censorship or spin. As a side note why is the Editor from The fucking Canary on BBC Question Time??
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jun 29, 2017 22:25:21 GMT
It's still news. Lots of broadcasters are not impartial as with the written press. You only need to look at the BBC - they're both left and right depending on the opposite of your beliefs. It's not the news, it's a certain version of the news that suits the newspapers owner or the personal politics of the programme producer and interviewer. All well and good if it's a privately funded but the BBC isn't. It's a criminal offence for us not to fund them. They have a duty to report the news impartially without sensationalism, censorship or spin. As a side note why is the Editor from The fucking Canary on BBC Question Time?? We're on about channel 4 aren't we? I referenced the BBC as a joke because both sides think they're biased against them. I thought the smiley would give it away. And yes, it's still news. Regardless of impartiality.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jun 29, 2017 22:38:30 GMT
It's still news. Lots of broadcasters are not impartial as with the written press. You only need to look at the BBC - they're both left and right depending on the opposite of your beliefs. It's not the news, it's a certain version of the news that suits the newspapers owner or the personal politics of the programme producer and interviewer. All well and good if it's a privately funded but the BBC isn't. It's a criminal offence for us not to fund them. They have a duty to report the news impartially without sensationalism, censorship or spin. As a side note why is the Editor from The fucking Canary on BBC Question Time?? It's impossible not to present "a certain version of the news" when doing a two-minute news story about something as complicated as Brexit, war, trade deals or elections. The best example I was given was to imagine trying to sum up the whole of the Palestine/Israel conflict in a 10-minute news story. For every one thing you include, someone could tell you 10 things you haven't included which make one side look bad. Where the whole system falls down is that people are now looking (or maybe it's always been this way) to simple answers for complicated questions.
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Post by 828492 on Jun 29, 2017 22:39:37 GMT
It's still news. Lots of broadcasters are not impartial as with the written press. You only need to look at the BBC - they're both left and right depending on the opposite of your beliefs. It's not the news, it's a certain version of the news that suits the newspapers owner or the personal politics of the programme producer and interviewer. All well and good if it's a privately funded but the BBC isn't. It's a criminal offence for us not to fund them. They have a duty to report the news impartially without sensationalism, censorship or spin. As a side note why is the Editor from The fucking Canary on BBC Question Time?? Because she is going cheep?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jun 29, 2017 23:19:19 GMT
It's not the news, it's a certain version of the news that suits the newspapers owner or the personal politics of the programme producer and interviewer. All well and good if it's a privately funded but the BBC isn't. It's a criminal offence for us not to fund them. They have a duty to report the news impartially without sensationalism, censorship or spin. As a side note why is the Editor from The fucking Canary on BBC Question Time?? We're on about channel 4 aren't we? I referenced the BBC as a joke because both sides think they're biased against them. I thought the smiley would give it away. And yes, it's still news. Regardless of impartiality. Yes we were and C4 can spin as much as they like but can't kick up a fuss when they're called on neutrality. I'm sure Ofcom would have certain parameters. Anyway, it's news but not the news. We all recognise an honest match report when we read one but there's always some bullshit London-centric version doing the rounds. It's a match report and technically accurate but it doesn't give the whole story.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jun 30, 2017 12:59:19 GMT
We're on about channel 4 aren't we? I referenced the BBC as a joke because both sides think they're biased against them. I thought the smiley would give it away. And yes, it's still news. Regardless of impartiality. Yes we were and C4 they can spin as much as they like but can't kick up a fuss when they're called on neutrality. I'm sure Ofcom would have certain parameters. Anyway, it's news but not the news. We all recognise an honest match report when we read one but there's always some bullshit London-centric version doing the rounds. It's a match report and technically accurate but it doesn't give the whole story. So who do you think does provide "the" news as you put it?
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Post by Mendicant on Jun 30, 2017 14:07:53 GMT
MSM are a bunch of liars.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jun 30, 2017 15:23:07 GMT
Yesterday it took them 20 minutes to mention Corbyn's Night Of The Long Knives. Of course, this would have highlighted Labour's divide over Europe. Agenda?
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jun 30, 2017 17:42:26 GMT
Yesterday it took them 20 minutes to mention Corbyn's Night Of The Long Knives. Of course, this would have highlighted Labour's divide over Europe. Agenda? Is that newsworthy?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jun 30, 2017 18:05:33 GMT
Yes we were and C4 they can spin as much as they like but can't kick up a fuss when they're called on neutrality. I'm sure Ofcom would have certain parameters. Anyway, it's news but not the news. We all recognise an honest match report when we read one but there's always some bullshit London-centric version doing the rounds. It's a match report and technically accurate but it doesn't give the whole story. So who do you think does provide "the" news as you put it? No one. This is down to the word "due". OfcomThe BBC should provide "the news" because they are the state broadcaster who's funding is taken from citizen's of every type of political persuasion.
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