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Post by crowey on Jul 6, 2017 12:50:11 GMT
Be interesting to see if Australia actually have a team to play The Ashes series due to the current contract dispute
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 6, 2017 15:18:02 GMT
England have dropped the whiter kit then, by the looks of it,it looks more cream coloured compared to South Africa's.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 6, 2017 15:30:19 GMT
Roooot
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 17:46:45 GMT
Superb 184 not out from Captain Root - although he was dropped on 16 by Duminy. Moeen on 61 not out at the close.
Good recovery from yet another poor start by Cook, Jennings and Ballance (again).
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 6, 2017 18:07:43 GMT
Superb 184 not out from Captain Root - although he was dropped on 16 by Duminy. Moeen on 61 not out at the close. Good recovery from yet another poor start by Cook, Jennings and Ballance (again). I think we need to give a big thank you to South Africa - you can add two no ball dismissals to the dropped catches. But big credit to Root - looks classy as always, but this time converted into a big ton. The biggest disappointment was Ballance. Not so much that he went early, but how he went. Trapped LBW to a full straight delivery is depressingly familiar. It seems he is as susceptible as ever to a straightforward delivery.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 18:11:45 GMT
Yes SA were poor in the field and helped England to recover from another dismal start. Ballance must surely be shown the exit door after this test.
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 6, 2017 18:14:41 GMT
Yes SA were poor in the field and helped England to recover from another dismal start. Ballance must surely be shown the exit door after this test. He's Root's choice apparently. I expect he'll be at three for the entire series. Let's hope today was just an aberration and he'll show his county form in future innings.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 18:15:37 GMT
Superb 184 not out from Captain Root - although he was dropped on 16 by Duminy. Moeen on 61 not out at the close. Good recovery from yet another poor start by Cook, Jennings and Ballance (again). I think we need to give a big thank you to South Africa - you can add two no ball dismissals to the dropped catches. But big credit to Root - looks classy as always, but this time converted into a big ton. The biggest disappointment was Ballance. Not so much that he went early, but how he went. Trapped LBW to a full straight delivery is depressingly familiar. It seems he is as susceptible as ever to a straightforward delivery. Said this all along. It wasn't and shouldn't have been about how many runs Ballance has scored at County level, only whether he had corrected the obvious deficiencies in his game to help his defence against top class seam bowling. And he clearly hasn't so why bring him back into the fold?
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 6, 2017 18:17:41 GMT
I think we need to give a big thank you to South Africa - you can add two no ball dismissals to the dropped catches. But big credit to Root - looks classy as always, but this time converted into a big ton. The biggest disappointment was Ballance. Not so much that he went early, but how he went. Trapped LBW to a full straight delivery is depressingly familiar. It seems he is as susceptible as ever to a straightforward delivery. Said this all along. It wasn't and shouldn't have been about how many runs Ballance has scored at County level, only whether he had corrected the obvious deficiencies in his game to help his defence against top class seam bowling. And he clearly hasn't so why bring him back into the fold? Does no one bowl full and straight in county cricket?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 18:20:32 GMT
Said this all along. It wasn't and shouldn't have been about how many runs Ballance has scored at County level, only whether he had corrected the obvious deficiencies in his game to help his defence against top class seam bowling. And he clearly hasn't so why bring him back into the fold? Does no one bowl full and straight in county cricket? Clearly not, because his bat still gets stuck behind his pad which an under 12's club coach could tell you is a massive technical deficiency.
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Post by followyoudown on Jul 6, 2017 21:57:01 GMT
Be interesting to see if Australia actually have a team to play The Ashes series due to the current contract dispute Has to be resolved before the ODI tour to India or BCCI will be after mega compensation and may ban aussie players from the IPL as I think they did when the Windies cancelled.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 22:12:48 GMT
Does no one bowl full and straight in county cricket? Clearly not, because his bat still gets stuck behind his pad which an under 12's club coach could tell you is a massive technical deficiency. His problem stems from the enormous backward movement of his left leg ( I've never seen such a huge movement of a batsmans back foot , ) When he then attempts to play off the front foot ....which is only a minimal movement for him anyway , he is almost playing from behind or from on the popping crease , so he is nowhere near getting in line and to the pitch of the ball ....a disastrous technique which is bound to get him into all sorts of trouble at this level ...I would fear for him in Australia .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 22:24:38 GMT
Superb 184 not out from Captain Root - although he was dropped on 16 by Duminy. Moeen on 61 not out at the close. Good recovery from yet another poor start by Cook, Jennings and Ballance (again). Cook will be ok , Jennings clearly was not out ....a poor decision , pitched outside leg stump and was also missing , they ought to have reviewed it in retrospect Balance is just lacking the quality to bat number three ( and probably lower in the order too ) at this level .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 22:30:03 GMT
Said this all along. It wasn't and shouldn't have been about how many runs Ballance has scored at County level, only whether he had corrected the obvious deficiencies in his game to help his defence against top class seam bowling. And he clearly hasn't so why bring him back into the fold? Does no one bowl full and straight in county cricket? They obviously do .....but he is also having issues with exaggerated back foot movement which is also affecting his ability to pick the right length as well as the right line .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 22:36:57 GMT
Yes SA were poor in the field and helped England to recover from another dismal start. Ballance must surely be shown the exit door after this test. He's Root's choice apparently. I expect he'll be at three for the entire series. Let's hope today was just an aberration and he'll show his county form in future innings. He should not be going in at three ....Root should be batting there , if Ballance is playing he should not be coming in with the possibility of facing the new ball like today , far better thar he comes in at five when in theory the ball is softer and doing less ....but I don't think he is the answer at number five either .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 22:38:56 GMT
England have dropped the whiter kit then by the looks of it,it looks more cream coloured compared to South Africa's. Cream which is traditional .....but the new sweater is almost white ....it does not look right to me ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 23:02:12 GMT
England have dropped the whiter kit then by the looks of it,it looks more cream coloured compared to South Africa's. Cream which is traditional .....but the new sweater is almost white ....it does not look right to me ? Yeah they need to sort the sweaters out looks amateurish....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 23:10:08 GMT
Cream which is traditional .....but the new sweater is almost white ....it does not look right to me ? Yeah they need to sort the sweaters out looks amateurish.... At least they are back to being traditional sweaters with the crown and three lions back in the correct position .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 23:13:40 GMT
Yes SA were poor in the field and helped England to recover from another dismal start. Ballance must surely be shown the exit door after this test. He may get runs in the second innings ....I hope for him and the team he does .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 4:05:41 GMT
Yes SA were poor in the field and helped England to recover from another dismal start. Ballance must surely be shown the exit door after this test. He may get runs in the second innings ....I hope for him and the team he does . I hope so too but the omens aren't favourable are they ? He's failed too often at this level and doesn't seem capable of becoming an integral and essential fixture in the team (so far anyway). If as you say he is Joe Root's choice then it does seem he will be given more time and I hope it does come good for him but on past evidence I doubt it.
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 7, 2017 7:52:57 GMT
England have dropped the whiter kit then by the looks of it,it looks more cream coloured compared to South Africa's. Cream which is traditional .....but the new sweater is almost white ....it does not look right to me ? I was thinking the same yesterday. Nice to see a return to off white - but the combo look with the all white jumper was not good.
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 7, 2017 7:57:32 GMT
He's Root's choice apparently. I expect he'll be at three for the entire series. Let's hope today was just an aberration and he'll show his county form in future innings. He should not be going in at three ....Root should be batting there , if Ballance is playing he should not be coming in with the possibility of facing the new ball like today , far better thar he comes in at five when in theory the ball is softer and doing less ....but I don't think he is the answer at number five either . I'm happy to see Root at 4 - if that is what he wants. Also, now he is captain I'm happier he is lower down the order. The issue is a decent #3 - which is something we've had an issue with for some time. As well as an opening partner for Cook. We lose 3 wickets early far too often. But we know that. Hopefully Jennings is part of the answer. It's hard to imagine Ballance is though. Our top order continues to be a work in progress.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 9:06:08 GMT
He should not be going in at three ....Root should be batting there , if Ballance is playing he should not be coming in with the possibility of facing the new ball like today , far better thar he comes in at five when in theory the ball is softer and doing less ....but I don't think he is the answer at number five either . I'm happy to see Root at 4 - if that is what he wants. Also, now he is captain I'm happier he is lower down the order. The issue is a decent #3 - which is something we've had an issue with for some time. As well as an opening partner for Cook. We lose 3 wickets early far too often. But we know that. Hopefully Jennings is part of the answer. It's hard to imagine Ballance is though. Our top order continues to be a work in progress. I think if Hameed had been getting runs he would have definitely opened the innings with Cook , I think they were looking to bat Jennings at three ....that's a lot of inexperience at the top of the order .Ballance is not the answer , if they don't have a better alternative than him Root should be three , ideally four ......pity Bell isn't amongst the runs for Warwickshire , I know you would love to seem him return
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 9:08:12 GMT
He may get runs in the second innings ....I hope for him and the team he does . I hope so too but the omens aren't favourable are they ? He's failed too often at this level and doesn't seem capable of becoming an integral and essential fixture in the team (so far anyway). If as you say he is Joe Root's choice then it does seem he will be given more time and I hope it does come good for him but on past evidence I doubt it. Far too many issues with his technique for him to be a consistent success at this level I'm afraid
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 9:10:34 GMT
Superb 184 not out from Captain Root - although he was dropped on 16 by Duminy. Moeen on 61 not out at the close. Good recovery from yet another poor start by Cook, Jennings and Ballance (again). I think we need to give a big thank you to South Africa - you can add two no ball dismissals to the dropped catches. But big credit to Root - looks classy as always, but this time converted into a big ton. The biggest disappointment was Ballance. Not so much that he went early, but how he went. Trapped LBW to a full straight delivery is depressingly familiar. It seems he is as susceptible as ever to a straightforward delivery. Incredible stroke of luck with that non stumping off a no ball ! Their spinner must be suicidal !
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 7, 2017 10:13:34 GMT
Yes SA were poor in the field and helped England to recover from another dismal start. Ballance must surely be shown the exit door after this test. He's Root's choice apparently. I expect he'll be at three for the entire series. Let's hope today was just an aberration and he'll show his county form in future innings. I've gone off Ballance, lately.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 7, 2017 10:15:09 GMT
Dawson draws a blankety blank.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 7, 2017 10:47:07 GMT
Broad's batting reminds me of myself.
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 7, 2017 11:02:16 GMT
Broad's batting reminds me of myself. it's painful to watch. You feel it's only a matter of time. That injury certainly left a deep psychological scar.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 7, 2017 11:30:58 GMT
Broad's batting reminds me of myself. it's painful to watch. You feel it's only a matter of time. That injury certainly left a deep psychological scar. Proceeds to score more than Cook, Jennings, Baristow, Ballance and Dawson combined What a knock!
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