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Post by manmarking on Jun 16, 2017 21:20:40 GMT
In fairness, Jeremy Corbyn has quite emphatically not tried to whip up young kids against older folk either. Every speech I've seen him give, he quite clearly talks about young and old working together. There's misinformation coming from many angles right now. he leaves that to momentum Any evidence to support that mate?
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Post by salopstick on Jun 16, 2017 21:22:13 GMT
he leaves that to momentum Any evidence to support that mate? Any evidence to support that i am your mate?
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 16, 2017 21:26:03 GMT
You need people to state the obvious to you says a lot about you really, until they know the cause of the fire its simply not possible to say what is too blame so to say it is due to the cuts is blindingly obvious they are playing politics. No it says a lot more about you than me, fyd. You're more interested in defending your political party than anything else. Even the right wing media outlets aren't casting the aspersions or spreading the innuendo you are. There's no innuendo when I've stated my view explicitly, so OYF with your snide comments.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 21:26:12 GMT
In fairness, Jeremy Corbyn has quite emphatically not tried to whip up young kids against older folk either. Every speech I've seen him give, he quite clearly talks about young and old working together. There's misinformation coming from many angles right now. he leaves that to momentum You're not suggesting that Corbyn and Khan are loading some pretty hefty bullets are you?
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 16, 2017 21:26:43 GMT
Any evidence to support that mate? Any evidence to support that i am your mate? Any evidence to support anyone is his mate ?
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Post by manmarking on Jun 16, 2017 21:28:01 GMT
Any evidence to support that mate? Any evidence to support that i am your mate? No. To support your claim that Momentum whips up young kids against older folk in direct contrast to Corbyn himself?
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Post by manmarking on Jun 16, 2017 21:29:58 GMT
No it says a lot more about you than me, fyd. You're more interested in defending your political party than anything else. Even the right wing media outlets aren't casting the aspersions or spreading the innuendo you are. There's no innuendo when I've stated my view explicitly, so OYF with your snide comments. For 'snide', read 'true'.
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Post by josh on Jun 16, 2017 21:30:03 GMT
Any evidence to support that i am your mate? Any evidence to support anyone is his mate ? Don't be so harsh on salopstick
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Post by essexstokey on Jun 16, 2017 21:30:06 GMT
I'm sure that the Tories on here have different TV's and radios to the rest of us or do they have there own tv station Bullsh@@ tv or news international as its called!!
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 16, 2017 21:30:07 GMT
the hate being whipped up on the left in the UK is reminiscent of whats going on in the US where we just saw a bernie sanders supporter open fire on a bunch of republican senators playing baseball, theres obviously labour party linked provocateurs on the ground in Kensington handing out anti Tory placards and they're directing a mob of people to storm the council offices. imo Corbyn and his associates are very dangerous people, they've been travelling the country stirring up tensions all over the place IE by telling young kids that they've had their futures stolen from them by older folk, as if the future is something that is given to you on a plate and not something you have to work for, this fosters a sense of entitlement and victimhood and we saw what that did during the Tottenham riots, kids breaking in clothes shops and electrical stores and afterwards justifying it all by saying the people who own the stores can afford it. Now labour operatives are out exploiting this latest tragedy handing out placards with "tory scum have blood on their hands" , god knows where this ends. Funnily enough it was only earlier this evening that I was going to make a post saying that I'll give it untill the end of the year untill some far-left nutjob commits an act of terrorism in this country. This 'Corbynsim' (For want of a better word) is getting seriously out-of-hand. They're throwing around these words like 'divisive', 'hatred', 'intolerant' & 'Nazis', whilst simultaneously being the most hate-filled, intolerant, fascists this country has ever seen. I see that left wing luvvie Lily Allen has had her say, maybe she could offer her spare rooms to re house some of the unfortunate individuals who find themselves homeless due to this terrible tragedy, along with Gary Lineker, Bob Geldof etc. they have plenty to say but it seems very little to offer when push comes to shove.
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Post by josh on Jun 16, 2017 21:32:51 GMT
Funnily enough it was only earlier this evening that I was going to make a post saying that I'll give it untill the end of the year untill some far-left nutjob commits an act of terrorism in this country. This 'Corbynsim' (For want of a better word) is getting seriously out-of-hand. They're throwing around these words like 'divisive', 'hatred', 'intolerant' & 'Nazis', whilst simultaneously being the most hate-filled, intolerant, fascists this country has ever seen. I see that left wing luvvie Lily Allen has had her say, maybe she could offer her spare rooms to re house some of the unfortunate individuals who find themselves homeless due to this terrible tragedy, along with Gary Lineker, Bob Geldof etc. they have plenty to say but it seems very little to offer when push comes to shove. metro.co.uk/2017/06/14/lily-allen-offers-tea-and-shelter-to-grenfell-tower-fire-victims-6707972/She has you muppet.
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Post by essexstokey on Jun 16, 2017 21:33:07 GMT
Funnily enough it was only earlier this evening that I was going to make a post saying that I'll give it untill the end of the year untill some far-left nutjob commits an act of terrorism in this country. This 'Corbynsim' (For want of a better word) is getting seriously out-of-hand. They're throwing around these words like 'divisive', 'hatred', 'intolerant' & 'Nazis', whilst simultaneously being the most hate-filled, intolerant, fascists this country has ever seen. I see that left wing luvvie Lily Allen has had her say, maybe she could offer her spare rooms to re house some of the unfortunate individuals who find themselves homeless due to this terrible tragedy, along with Gary Lineker, Bob Geldof etc. they have plenty to say but it seems very little to offer when push comes to shove. how do you know what they are or are not doing
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 16, 2017 21:39:30 GMT
She did the same for refugees from Calais when apologising on all our behalfs yet funnily enough never actually took anyone in.
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Post by neckender78 on Jun 16, 2017 21:40:28 GMT
I'm sure that the Tories on here have different TV's and radios to the rest of us or do they have there own tv station Bullsh@@ tv or news international as its called!! You Corbyn loving leftie tree huggers have your very own dedicated TV and radio stations. The BBC
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Post by essexstokey on Jun 16, 2017 21:48:58 GMT
I'm sure that the Tories on here have different TV's and radios to the rest of us or do they have there own tv station Bullsh@@ tv or news international as its called!! You Corbyn loving leftie tree huggers have your very own dedicated TV and radio stations. The BBC Take it you haven't read my posts before then where I've told everyone I didn't like Corbin and was contemplating not voting but did because of all the bs from the Tories on here However his actions during the election and this last week have me warming to him through his compassion and understanding long may it continue
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 21:51:42 GMT
I went down today, I live at Heathrow so not far really, not nice seeing the shell of the building, but I could not help and wonder why it is still standing after the fire..I thought of 9/11 but then that was much higher, anyway they don't wan't anymore gifts, unless it is Money...So Sad, but I am surprised and pleased that so many faiths came together to help....Well Done.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 22:01:55 GMT
They say that over 70 are dead or missing, WTF?
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Post by essexstokey on Jun 16, 2017 22:05:59 GMT
They say that over 70 are dead or missing, WTF? TEST Maybe a lot more, we don't know and wont know for a bit as its dangerous
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 22:12:43 GMT
Sadik khan, Nasty Man... TEST
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 0:55:28 GMT
They're talking about the eventual toll being around 100. Lilly Allen was kicking off about a "cover-up" of the actual number which unambiguously shows how retarded she is however well intentioned she might be.
Either way we're looking at a Hillsborough level tragedy here, the difference being there will be nowhere for the culprits to hide.
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Post by woodstein on Jun 17, 2017 4:39:49 GMT
You Corbyn loving leftie tree huggers have your very own dedicated TV and radio stations. The BBC Take it you haven't read my posts before then where I've told everyone I didn't like Corbin and was contemplating not voting but did because of all the bs from the Tories on here However his actions during the election and this last week have me warming to him through his compassion and understanding long may it continue Corbyn has come out of this and his out on the streets to meet & greet pre election campaign better than May but he's obviously got a better advisor than May. That's what these MP's and "celebs" like to do - make out their love of the common people but it really is an act and is a vote/popularity gaining thing.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 17, 2017 4:58:43 GMT
I went down today, I live at Heathrow so not far really, not nice seeing the shell of the building, but I could not help and wonder why it is still standing after the fire..I thought of 9/11 but then that was much higher, anyway they don't wan't anymore gifts, unless it is Money...So Sad, but I am surprised and pleased that so many faiths came together to help....Well Done. TEST The building is mostly concrete whereas the twin towers wasn't, think I heard someone refer to it and said it was made out of mostly steel so wasn't as strong structurally. I might be wrong though.
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Post by boothenboy75 on Jun 17, 2017 5:06:42 GMT
Take it you haven't read my posts before then where I've told everyone I didn't like Corbin and was contemplating not voting but did because of all the bs from the Tories on here (slaphead) However his actions during the election and this last week have me warming to him through his compassion and understanding long may it continue Corbyn has come out of this and his out on the streets to meet & greet pre election campaign better than May but he's obviously got a better advisor than May. That's what these MP's and "celebs" like to do - make out their love of the common people but it really is an act and is a vote/popularity gaining thing. I'm no fan of either of them but for Corbyn's many faults I do believe he understands the basics of humanity which, after watching May's performance on Newsnight, I can't say the same about for her.
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Post by manmarking on Jun 17, 2017 6:40:06 GMT
he leaves that to momentum You're not suggesting that Corbyn and Khan are loading some pretty hefty bullets are you? That appears to be what he's suggesting yes. But then he's been asked about it three times now and is still yet to provide any evidence to support the accusation. It looks increasingly as if we can file it in the same drawer as his numerous General Election predictions
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jun 17, 2017 7:44:34 GMT
Corbyn and his lefty henchmen have a hidden agenda to overthrow the legitimate government with mob rule and whipping up anti government hysteria. He is using the aftermath of this terrible tragedy to make political gain there is no doubt imo. He and his party are despicable. The people of Grenfell Tower have legitimate reason to be angry with authorities however labour are exploiting this imo.
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Post by boothenboy75 on Jun 17, 2017 7:53:01 GMT
Corbyn and his lefty henchmen have a hidden agenda to overthrow the legitimate government with mob rule and whipping up anti government hysteria. He is using the aftermath of this terrible tragedy to make political gain there is no doubt imo. He and his party are despicable. The people of Grenfell Tower have legitimate reason to be angry with authorities however labour are exploiting this imo. It does raise massive political points though, just as Manchester and London have done recently. People dying is a reason to politicise these tragedy's and not allow authorities (of whichever political persuasion) to offer glib platitudes whilst they wait for the media circus and publics attention to drift on. It's been said for the past couple of years that the country needed a proper opposition and it seems that Labour have decided to at least try doing this for a while. Lets see where it goes.
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Post by manmarking on Jun 17, 2017 7:55:21 GMT
Corbyn and his lefty henchmen have a hidden agenda to overthrow the legitimate government with mob rule and whipping up anti government hysteria. He is using the aftermath of this terrible tragedy to make political gain there is no doubt imo. He and his party are despicable. The people of Grenfell Tower have legitimate reason to be angry with authorities however labour are exploiting this imo. You're the third person I've asked on this thread, so far without response. I'll hope it's third time lucky: do you have any evidence to support those allegations?
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Post by Northy on Jun 17, 2017 8:06:43 GMT
On a separate issue to this fire I've stepped in on a couple of fire strikes. As good as the fire men are their union is as political as it can be Same here, only we manned the search and rescue squads, FARTS as they were known, Fire and Rescue Teams whilst the light infantry manned the green goddesses
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Post by Northy on Jun 17, 2017 8:09:03 GMT
The local council havent come out of this very well at the moment, seem too slow to react as if there isn't any emergency plans in place. I bet the leader is on a couple hundred £k a year as well, this borough gets to vote local elections next year.
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Post by Northy on Jun 17, 2017 8:11:36 GMT
Corbyn and his lefty henchmen have a hidden agenda to overthrow the legitimate government with mob rule and whipping up anti government hysteria. He is using the aftermath of this terrible tragedy to make political gain there is no doubt imo. He and his party are despicable. The people of Grenfell Tower have legitimate reason to be angry with authorities however labour are exploiting this imo. You're the third person I've asked on this thread, so far without response. I'll hope it's third time lucky: do you have any evidence to support those allegations? A local labour ward councillor was on the BBC news earlier, and said there were people who stormed the civic buildings were locals, ably supported by outsiders. This has forced the offices to shut when they were in the middle of organising plans for rehousing children and families, lynch mob attitudes never work.
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