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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2019 22:43:08 GMT
I heard on the radio 2 news today that the EU are apparently willing to extend Article 50 by 2 years ! Loads more British money into their bottomless pit and they'll no doubt hope the remainers will get their way to completely overturn Brexit.
Bunch of shysters in Brussels together with the lioad of shysters in the House of Conmen who are desperate to stop Brexit by any means they can think of. I just hope the electorate remember all this at the next G.E. ! Well those that haven't been constantly crying, whinging, and wailing ever since they LOST the 2016 referendum.
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Post by hammered on Feb 26, 2019 1:01:35 GMT
Three fucking years .....and we need more time.....??
To do what exactly?
Prove our democracy is dishonest and pointless? 401 MP's out of 632 represent leave constituencies.
Prove that the EU is a top down autocratic federalist land grabber, debt creator and culture destroyer... see Greece, (skint and decaying) Spain, skint (Catalonia yellow vests), Italy (now recovering after finding the balls to elect leaders not sucking globalists off) France (not good as we all Shhhhh secretly know), Germany (Merkel's still in the chair - but people not good and now gone into recession with a migrant welfare bill they cant afford. Sweden (fucked), Poland, Hungary (protecting borders and hanging on to Christian culture) Austria (populist leader with German spike up arse) Denmark (now woke) whatever that means but now pushing back and then there's Switzerland which is just fine and dandy??
Prove the MSM is in cahoots with the whole shit fest...
Prove the myth of the EU Army?
Prove the predictions of many Leavers on here since before this thread begun?
Remainers: Other than 24hr reminders of impending doom; Nissan, Honda giving up on Diesel car production in the EU (UK), the richest bloke in the UK doing some paperwork to protect his fortune against the vile speculators that will play the faked manufactured market uncertainty...Oggy keeping this thread going for 581 pages, fucking nout - leading up to meh.. and still not a good reason why we should stay FFS??
May's fake negotiating narrative is getting nauseating now - as is the MSM love-in with the idea of a 2nd Ref although apparently taking "no deal" off the table will at the 11th hour get her the BRINO WA the EU is happy with and we move on..or not probably because the direction of travel is clear (succession of sovereignty) and nothing other than a clean break set's us free..
May's deal will see us tied to this union until it implodes - IMO sooner than many think - but inevitable!!
I'm still hoping May's just a good puppet and no deal on the 29th March was her goal all along - she just had to make it look like an bumbling default - but I just can't see that happening. Oggy and his mob should be proud.
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Post by Northy on Feb 26, 2019 6:37:25 GMT
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Post by thevoid on Feb 26, 2019 7:10:11 GMT
Ryan Shawcross' form started dipping just after the referendum too. True story. Yes. He voted remain and couldn't believe what was happening to the country. Badly affected his form. Well he should have continued to bring his best to the table for the greater good. He's make a good figurehead for Remain then.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 26, 2019 7:15:41 GMT
The absolute shits. I, and others, predicted a stitch up from the start, but even I couldn't have seen quite how slimy, sneaky and sinister our elected politicians can be.
Wanker May's wank deal or Wanker Corbyn's wank referendum idea. Great. Hey, if we are doing second votes, let's put the type of Brexit to the people. Put her deal up against the Canada Plus one that was apparently offered early, but then forgotten. No? Just a thought.
Brexit was abandoned as an idea the moment the result came in. It will be called a failure, even though it was never enacted. MPs responsible for this charade will be unscathed, because even if they lose at the next election, they will find cushy numbers elsewhere.
And the people on both sides of the debate, who voted keenly and honestly, will be shafted again.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Feb 26, 2019 7:54:55 GMT
Three fucking years .....and we need more time.....?? To do what exactly? Prove our democracy is dishonest and pointless? 401 MP's out of 632 represent leave constituencies. Prove that the EU is a top down autocratic federalist land grabber, debt creator and culture destroyer... see Greece, (skint and decaying) Spain, skint (Catalonia yellow vests), Italy (now recovering after finding the balls to elect leaders not sucking globalists off) France (not good as we all Shhhhh secretly know), Germany (Merkel's still in the chair - but people not good and now gone into recession with a migrant welfare bill they cant afford. Sweden (fucked), Poland, Hungary (protecting borders and hanging on to Christian culture) Austria (populist leader with German spike up arse) Denmark (now woke) whatever that means but now pushing back and then there's Switzerland which is just fine and dandy?? Prove the MSM is in cahoots with the whole shit fest... Prove the myth of the EU Army? Prove the predictions of many Leavers on here since before this thread begun? Remainers: Other than 24hr reminders of impending doom; Nissan, Honda giving up on Diesel car production in the EU (UK), the richest bloke in the UK doing some paperwork to protect his fortune against the vile speculators that will play the faked manufactured market uncertainty...Oggy keeping this thread going for 581 pages, fucking nout - leading up to meh.. and still not a good reason why we should stay FFS?? May's fake negotiating narrative is getting nauseating now - as is the MSM love-in with the idea of a 2nd Ref although apparently taking "no deal" off the table will at the 11th hour get her the BRINO WA the EU is happy with and we move on..or not probably because the direction of travel is clear (succession of sovereignty) and nothing other than a clean break set's us free.. May's deal will see us tied to this union until it implodes - IMO sooner than many think - but inevitable!! I'm still hoping May's just a good puppet and no deal on the 29th March was her goal all along - she just had to make it look like an bumbling default - but I just can't see that happening. Oggy and his mob should be proud. With regards to your MSM comment, we wouldn't be in this mess if it weren't for the Mail, Sun, Express etc spouting the absolute bollocks it has done (and been allowed to) for the benefits of the people at the top of those publications and their friends. The whole campaign was based on fear and falsehoods and illegality. Our MSM is a fucking disgrace and has been proven to be time and time again.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 26, 2019 8:41:28 GMT
Kier Starmer defending the indefensible on LBC right now. Labour has become a joke.
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Post by salopstick on Feb 26, 2019 9:14:24 GMT
Three fucking years .....and we need more time.....?? To do what exactly? Prove our democracy is dishonest and pointless? 401 MP's out of 632 represent leave constituencies. Prove that the EU is a top down autocratic federalist land grabber, debt creator and culture destroyer... see Greece, (skint and decaying) Spain, skint (Catalonia yellow vests), Italy (now recovering after finding the balls to elect leaders not sucking globalists off) France (not good as we all Shhhhh secretly know), Germany (Merkel's still in the chair - but people not good and now gone into recession with a migrant welfare bill they cant afford. Sweden (fucked), Poland, Hungary (protecting borders and hanging on to Christian culture) Austria (populist leader with German spike up arse) Denmark (now woke) whatever that means but now pushing back and then there's Switzerland which is just fine and dandy?? Prove the MSM is in cahoots with the whole shit fest... Prove the myth of the EU Army? Prove the predictions of many Leavers on here since before this thread begun? Remainers: Other than 24hr reminders of impending doom; Nissan, Honda giving up on Diesel car production in the EU (UK), the richest bloke in the UK doing some paperwork to protect his fortune against the vile speculators that will play the faked manufactured market uncertainty...Oggy keeping this thread going for 581 pages, fucking nout - leading up to meh.. and still not a good reason why we should stay FFS?? May's fake negotiating narrative is getting nauseating now - as is the MSM love-in with the idea of a 2nd Ref although apparently taking "no deal" off the table will at the 11th hour get her the BRINO WA the EU is happy with and we move on..or not probably because the direction of travel is clear (succession of sovereignty) and nothing other than a clean break set's us free.. May's deal will see us tied to this union until it implodes - IMO sooner than many think - but inevitable!! I'm still hoping May's just a good puppet and no deal on the 29th March was her goal all along - she just had to make it look like an bumbling default - but I just can't see that happening. Oggy and his mob should be proud. With regards to your MSM comment, we wouldn't be in this mess if it weren't for the Mail, Sun, Express etc spouting the absolute bollocks it has done (and been allowed to) for the benefits of the people at the top of those publications and their friends. The whole campaign was based on fear and falsehoods and illegality. Our MSM is a fucking disgrace and has been proven to be time and time again. And yet you left out the left leaning MSM who are equally culpable
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 9:38:14 GMT
I know it's in the Daily Mail but yet more "shysterism" (if that's a word, and if not it should be !) Theresa May is set to rule out no deal Brexit after 15 ministers threaten to quit. link
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Feb 26, 2019 9:43:57 GMT
Why are any of you surprised? Minorities always get what they want in this country.
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 26, 2019 9:44:35 GMT
I know it's in the Daily Mail but yet more "shysterism" (if that's a word, and if not it should be !) Theresa May is set to rule out no deal Brexit after 15 ministers threaten to quit. linkIf true, then just how the fuck are you supposed to negotiate from that position of weakness? It truly is akin to taking a knife to a gun fight... bunch of treacherous tossers, all of them are a disgrace to the country and need removing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 9:51:37 GMT
So it'll presumably come down to a second referendum if the bunch of shits in Parliament get their way - May's Deal v Remain - stitch up complete ! The EU win again !
They've shown nothing but contempt for the leave voters from the referendum result. They're a bloody disgrace to democracy and we should show them our true feelings at the next G.E.
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 26, 2019 9:57:15 GMT
Although fairly certain before, I now know I will never, ever be voting for a mainstream party again. Minority politics seems to be the way to get what you want.
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Post by upthefud on Feb 26, 2019 10:07:59 GMT
Time for the yellow vests
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Post by salopstick on Feb 26, 2019 10:11:40 GMT
So it'll presumably come down to a second referendum if the bunch of shits in Parliament get their way - May's Deal v Remain - stitch up complete ! The EU win again ! They've shown nothing but contempt for the leave voters from the referendum result. They're a bloody disgrace to democracy and we should show them our true feelings at the next G.E. The natural thing for the EU and most MPs their gut instinct is to shaft us. To try and somehow force a second referendum of sorts that gives you a choice of remain only. That’s what they want to do. Unfortunately in this age, in this country they finally grasp the idea that it would ruin democracy Do t get me wrong. They are still pushing that gut instinct but they realise it will fuck them over long term. There is also to big (maybe not majority) but big enough for a voice movement in parliament and the wider uk that will push for Brexit. An interesting struggle but there is no way this country will not brexit. It can’t happen
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 26, 2019 10:21:20 GMT
I know it's in the Daily Mail but yet more "shysterism" (if that's a word, and if not it should be !) Theresa May is set to rule out no deal Brexit after 15 ministers threaten to quit. linkAll a politician does is count votes. Even Jezza is at it!
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 26, 2019 10:27:16 GMT
So it'll presumably come down to a second referendum if the bunch of shits in Parliament get their way - May's Deal v Remain - stitch up complete ! The EU win again ! They've shown nothing but contempt for the leave voters from the referendum result. They're a bloody disgrace to democracy and we should show them our true feelings at the next G.E. The only options would be a Brexit type party(and UKIP have conveniently "self destructed")or if Brexit gets overturned, punish Labour and the Tories by voting for the Liberal Democrats! Wank as they are, at least they have been consistent on Brexit.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 26, 2019 10:32:05 GMT
Oh, and fair play to John Mann who has stuck to his guns on Brexit. He forewarned Labour about them being out of touch with their constituents before the referendum, and was proved right. He reckons Corbyn has made Labour unelectable with this latest move.
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Post by Northy on Feb 26, 2019 10:34:02 GMT
I know it's in the Daily Mail but yet more "shysterism" (if that's a word, and if not it should be !) Theresa May is set to rule out no deal Brexit after 15 ministers threaten to quit. linkAll no doubt remainers. Claire Perry is in there, she campaigned to remain (her constituency voted remain). The Minister of State at the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, anice job after a degree in Geography from Oxford.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 10:41:48 GMT
So it'll presumably come down to a second referendum if the bunch of shits in Parliament get their way - May's Deal v Remain - stitch up complete ! The EU win again ! They've shown nothing but contempt for the leave voters from the referendum result. They're a bloody disgrace to democracy and we should show them our true feelings at the next G.E. The only options would be a Brexit type party(and UKIP have conveniently "self destructed")or if Brexit gets overturned, punish Labour and the Tories by voting for the Liberal Democrats! Wank as they are, at least they have been consistent on Brexit. Step forward Nigel Farage and his Brexit party ! Seriously who is there to vote for - the Tories and Labour have shown their true colours over Brexit - Lib Dems - no -they couldn't be seen as a serious option as long as Cable has a hole in his posterior - could they ?? - TIG - ha ha ha - just look who they are, Umunna, Soubry, Wollaston, Leslie, etc - UKIP - no - Brexit Party - hmmm - at times like this they could do some damage to the big two parties with protest voters Probably the most attractive at the moment are the Monster Raving Loony Party
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Post by Northy on Feb 26, 2019 10:44:44 GMT
The only options would be a Brexit type party(and UKIP have conveniently "self destructed")or if Brexit gets overturned, punish Labour and the Tories by voting for the Liberal Democrats! Wank as they are, at least they have been consistent on Brexit. Step forward Nigel Farage and his Brexit party ! Seriously who is there to vote for - the Tories and Labour have shown their true colours over Brexit - Lib Dems - no -they couldn't be seen as a serious option as long as Cable has a hole in his posterior - could they ?? - TIG - ha ha ha - just look who they are, Umunna, Soubry, Wollaston, Leslie, etc - UKIP - no - Brexit Party - hmmm - at times like this they could do some damage to the big two parties with protest voters Probably the most attractive at the moment are the Monster Raving Loony Party dvparty.uk/Our Motto
By We Serve we affirm our belief that it is the role of those elected to public office to serve the people who elected them to their roles.
We believe that Parliament has lost a sense of their duty to serve and obey the people, and that it is typically the attitude of Britain's political class that the people exist to serve them.
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Post by upthefud on Feb 26, 2019 10:46:02 GMT
I’ll vote Brexit party
Fuck the lot of them
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 10:56:50 GMT
There is no way on earth we will leave the EU...big business puppeteers run the planet and they like to control and manipulate all from the least amount of strings
All the other countries that voted No to the EU, where are they now? Same place as before and not a whimper from them.
What makes you think we'll be any different?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 10:56:50 GMT
Step forward Nigel Farage and his Brexit party ! Seriously who is there to vote for - the Tories and Labour have shown their true colours over Brexit - Lib Dems - no -they couldn't be seen as a serious option as long as Cable has a hole in his posterior - could they ?? - TIG - ha ha ha - just look who they are, Umunna, Soubry, Wollaston, Leslie, etc - UKIP - no - Brexit Party - hmmm - at times like this they could do some damage to the big two parties with protest voters Probably the most attractive at the moment are the Monster Raving Loony Party dvparty.uk/Our Motto
By We Serve we affirm our belief that it is the role of those elected to public office to serve the people who elected them to their roles.
We believe that Parliament has lost a sense of their duty to serve and obey the people, and that it is typically the attitude of Britain's political class that the people exist to serve them. I'd never heard of them before
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 26, 2019 10:57:15 GMT
I’ll vote Brexit party Fuck the lot of them They could do serious damage to the main parties, I would certainly vote for them. The problem is can they establish enough candidates to cover the UK, I think that is highly unlikely.
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 26, 2019 11:03:08 GMT
I’ll vote Brexit party Fuck the lot of them They could do serious damage to the main parties, I would certainly vote for them. The problem is can they establish enough candidates to cover the UK, I think that is highly unlikely. I know it will never happen, but just imagine if everyone so pissed off UKIP/Farage got in to form a majority government.... Europe and the political elite would shit themselves. Although they would never allow it to happen... democracy is long since dead.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 26, 2019 11:07:36 GMT
There is no way on earth we will leave the EU...big business puppeteers run the planet and they like to control and manipulate all from the least amount of strings All the other countries that voted No to the EU, where are they now? Same place as before and not a whimper from them. What makes you think we'll be any different? We'll be like Ireland, formerly wanting out, then happy being arse fucked by the EU and bailing out German and French banks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 11:23:42 GMT
There is no way on earth we will leave the EU...big business puppeteers run the planet and they like to control and manipulate all from the least amount of strings All the other countries that voted No to the EU, where are they now? Same place as before and not a whimper from them. What makes you think we'll be any different? We'll be like Ireland, formerly wanting out, then happy being arse fucked by the EU and bailing out German and French banks. Exactly...Say NO and get clobbered like the French, Greek and Spanish people. No democratic direction...was it Claude Or that previous guy who said, "Democracy is dangerous" ...No one to answer to. And could you imagine the media onslaught there would be if farage turned up to a meeting pissed as arseholes like our man Claude? His career would have been over in an instant The Brussels gang?...fucking silence
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 26, 2019 12:21:00 GMT
Just glancing through my I newspaper today and came to a article buried on page 25
Since the formation of the euro Germans on average are £20,000 richer the Dutch £18,000 to the good
All well and good you may say unless you are of course you are Italian and you’re £64,000 worse off
Even the French are £48,000 worse off maybe the real reason for the increase in frexit
So to all the remainers who keep telling me how much I will be worse off by brexit none of you’re forcasts are as bad as the poor souls saddled to the euro
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Post by salopstick on Feb 26, 2019 12:23:37 GMT
I’ll vote Brexit party Fuck the lot of them They could do serious damage to the main parties, I would certainly vote for them. The problem is can they establish enough candidates to cover the UK, I think that is highly unlikely. You only target leave constituencies but only with remain MPs. Like wigan
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