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Post by dannymadeley30 on Dec 16, 2019 13:21:34 GMT
We were left with no choice. This Labour party mocks and sneers at the people in the north, A middle class celebrity endorsed London centric elite. They care much more about Palestine than they do about Preston. You and Danny can come on here and wish the plague on Stoke as much as you like, it just reinforces what we knew. People like you and Danny don't want us to have a voice or choice, we should just know our station and do what C***s like you tell us to do! Do us all a favour and go F*** yourself! And take Danny with you. Preston voted labour. Tory austerity is what Stoke voted for. Stoke have voted for the plague on themselves. Stoke voted for the most elite establishment organisation of all time (save for the royal family). I voted lib dem. None are perfect but once brexit happens and the working class and poor pay hardest for it, who will be blamed then for the plight of the working class or poor? Perhaps finally the elite establishment will take the blame and the most elite and establishment organisation on earth (other than royal families) will take the hit. The tory press will try to shift the blame and the suckers round here will swallow it. Never mind they will still have a flag to shag.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 16, 2019 13:34:06 GMT
Preston voted labour. Tory austerity is what Stoke voted for. Stoke have voted for the plague on themselves. Stoke voted for the most elite establishment organisation of all time (save for the royal family). I voted lib dem. None are perfect but once brexit happens and the working class and poor pay hardest for it, who will be blamed then for the plight of the working class or poor? Perhaps finally the elite establishment will take the blame and the most elite and establishment organisation on earth (other than royal families) will take the hit. The tory press will try to shift the blame and the suckers round here will swallow it. Never mind they will still have a flag to shag. What is your obsession with shagging flags ! what a strange little man you are.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 16, 2019 13:40:31 GMT
We were left with no choice. This Labour party mocks and sneers at the people in the north, A middle class celebrity endorsed London centric elite. They care much more about Palestine than they do about Preston. You and Danny can come on here and wish the plague on Stoke as much as you like, it just reinforces what we knew. People like you and Danny don't want us to have a voice or choice, we should just know our station and do what C***s like you tell us to do! Do us all a favour and go F*** yourself! And take Danny with you. Preston voted labour. Tory austerity is what Stoke voted for. Stoke have voted for the plague on themselves. Stoke voted for the most elite establishment organisation of all time (save for the royal family). I voted lib dem. None are perfect but once brexit happens and the working class and poor pay hardest for it, who will be blamed then for the plight of the working class or poor? Perhaps finally the elite establishment will take the blame and the most elite and establishment organisation on earth (other than royal families) will take the hit. Attachment Deleted
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Post by dannymadeley30 on Dec 16, 2019 13:41:08 GMT
The tory press will try to shift the blame and the suckers round here will swallow it. Never mind they will still have a flag to shag. What is your obsession with shagging flags ! what a strange little man you are. It's not my obsession, it's the obsession of the right wing nationalists who have taken over the country.
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Post by dannymadeley30 on Dec 16, 2019 13:42:15 GMT
Crapslinger is good at posting memes, but he's not good at saying who he will blame if it all goes wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 14:27:51 GMT
We were left with no choice. This Labour party mocks and sneers at the people in the north, A middle class celebrity endorsed London centric elite. They care much more about Palestine than they do about Preston. You and Danny can come on here and wish the plague on Stoke as much as you like, it just reinforces what we knew. People like you and Danny don't want us to have a voice or choice, we should just know our station and do what C***s like you tell us to do! Do us all a favour and go F*** yourself! And take Danny with you. Preston voted labour. Tory austerity is what Stoke voted for. Stoke have voted for the plague on themselves. Stoke voted for the most elite establishment organisation of all time (save for the royal family). I voted lib dem. None are perfect but once brexit happens and the working class and poor pay hardest for it, who will be blamed then for the plight of the working class or poor? Perhaps finally the elite establishment will take the blame and the most elite and establishment organisation on earth (other than royal families) will take the hit. Correct they did, and with good reason maybe? The Preston experiment
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 16, 2019 14:30:11 GMT
What is your obsession with shagging flags ! what a strange little man you are. It's not my obsession, it's the obsession of the right wing nationalists who have taken over the country. Attachment Deleted Are these flag shaggers dannyboy
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 16, 2019 14:31:47 GMT
Crapslinger is good at posting memes, but he's not good at saying who he will blame if it all goes wrong. Forty plus years of EU dictatorship who will you blame if it all works out well ?
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Post by Clayton Wood on Dec 16, 2019 14:34:34 GMT
Crapslinger is good at posting memes, but he's not good at saying who he will blame if it all goes wrong. Forty plus years of EU dictatorship who will you blame if it all works out well ? Either way, I blame Kitson
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Post by franklin66 on Dec 16, 2019 14:36:10 GMT
I am a london lawyer yet you (who presumably is not) voted for the elite establishment! How strange That explains a lot. You would not begin to understand the justice metered out to the Labour Party last week. You must work with a lot of Tories who have made you bitter and twisted. Slightly ironic a lawyer making money from the misery of others is advocating change for the poor I bet his stance is something to do with the changes in legal aid 😉
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 16, 2019 14:43:51 GMT
What is your obsession with shagging flags ! what a strange little man you are. It's not my obsession, it's the obsession of the right wing nationalists who have taken over the country. Attachment Deleted
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Post by algor on Dec 16, 2019 15:39:46 GMT
We were left with no choice. This Labour party mocks and sneers at the people in the north, A middle class celebrity endorsed London centric elite. They care much more about Palestine than they do about Preston. You and Danny can come on here and wish the plague on Stoke as much as you like, it just reinforces what we knew. People like you and Danny don't want us to have a voice or choice, we should just know our station and do what C***s like you tell us to do! Do us all a favour and go F*** yourself! And take Danny with you. Preston voted labour. Tory austerity is what Stoke voted for. Stoke have voted for the plague on themselves. Stoke voted for the most elite establishment organisation of all time (save for the royal family). I voted lib dem. None are perfect but once brexit happens and the working class and poor pay hardest for it, who will be blamed then for the plight of the working class or poor? Perhaps finally the elite establishment will take the blame and the most elite and establishment organisation on earth (other than royal families) will take the hit. My point was that Labour care more about Palestine than northern towns and city's but you knew that. As for Brexit that's the 17.4 million people who voted for it that you wish to visit the plague upon, the list of people you wish ill is growing.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Dec 16, 2019 15:43:42 GMT
LibDems stage Peoples Vote MP's group photo. Not sure which one is the new PM as Swinson must be taking the pic.
Seriously what is the point of this party? Might as well disband it and give the votes to a party with some chance.
Vote LibDem or wipe your arse on your ballot paper-same result.
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 16, 2019 16:00:19 GMT
LibDems stage Peoples Vote MP's group photo. Not sure which one is the new PM as Swinson must be taking the pic. Seriously what is the point of this party? Might as well disband it and give the votes to a party with some chance. Vote LibDem or wipe your arse on your ballot paper-same result. No it was chukka taking the photo they've got to keep him busy till they can lob him at a bi election
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Post by oggyoggy on Dec 16, 2019 16:46:11 GMT
That explains a lot. You would not begin to understand the justice metered out to the Labour Party last week. You must work with a lot of Tories who have made you bitter and twisted. Slightly ironic a lawyer making money from the misery of others is advocating change for the poor I bet his stance is something to do with the changes in legal aid 😉 I was in court last week obtaining an injunction against a husband for a victim of marital rape and I will be working on the divorce and finances in due course. Is this making money from misery in the way you describe it? Or do you think that victim should be left in the abusive relationship with no representation and way out? What about when I recover children who have been abducted and taken abroad? The legal aid cuts and cuts to court funding have devastated the system and made justice much harder to achieve.
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Post by oggyoggy on Dec 16, 2019 16:48:02 GMT
LibDems stage Peoples Vote MP's group photo. Not sure which one is the new PM as Swinson must be taking the pic. Seriously what is the point of this party? Might as well disband it and give the votes to a party with some chance. Vote LibDem or wipe your arse on your ballot paper-same result. The winning party in my constituency. If we had a democratic system they would have 90 odd seats and possibly more as many don’t vote for them as the system is rigged against small parties. The lib dems increased their share of the vote by far more than any other party
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Post by oggyoggy on Dec 16, 2019 16:52:31 GMT
Preston voted labour. Tory austerity is what Stoke voted for. Stoke have voted for the plague on themselves. Stoke voted for the most elite establishment organisation of all time (save for the royal family). I voted lib dem. None are perfect but once brexit happens and the working class and poor pay hardest for it, who will be blamed then for the plight of the working class or poor? Perhaps finally the elite establishment will take the blame and the most elite and establishment organisation on earth (other than royal families) will take the hit. My point was that Labour care more about Palestine than northern towns and city's but you knew that. As for Brexit that's the 17.4 million people who voted for it that you wish to visit the plague upon, the list of people you wish ill is growing. I haven’t wished the plague on anyone. I only mentioned the plague as I was quoting a brexiteer who said about the plague.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 16, 2019 17:07:07 GMT
It's not my obsession, it's the obsession of the right wing nationalists who have taken over the country. View Attachment Are these flag shaggers dannyboy Elvis does a good version of Danny Boy Carps. I had it at my funeral when I died.
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Post by franklin66 on Dec 16, 2019 17:09:01 GMT
Slightly ironic a lawyer making money from the misery of others is advocating change for the poor I bet his stance is something to do with the changes in legal aid 😉 I was in court last week obtaining an injunction against a husband for a victim of marital rape and I will be working on the divorce and finances in due course. Is this making money from misery in the way you describe it? Or do you think that victim should be left in the abusive relationship with no representation and way out? What about when I recover children who have been abducted and taken abroad? The legal aid cuts and cuts to court funding have devastated the system and made justice much harder to achieve. And while you are doing that I was in uniform at the frontline of criminal justice obtaining the evidence you take credit for 😘
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Post by Clayton Wood on Dec 16, 2019 17:12:27 GMT
LibDems stage Peoples Vote MP's group photo. Not sure which one is the new PM as Swinson must be taking the pic. Seriously what is the point of this party? Might as well disband it and give the votes to a party with some chance. Vote LibDem or wipe your arse on your ballot paper-same result. The winning party in my constituency. If we had a democratic system they would have 90 odd seats and possibly more as many don’t vote for them as the system is rigged against small parties. The lib dems increased their share of the vote by far more than any other party So again nowhere near forming a Govt. The '11 AV ref was thrown out 68/32% so irrelevant argument to rely on a system that has been comprehensively rejected. LibDems fielded 611 candidates to achieve 11 MP's (down 1). With millions of Remainers waiting in the wings to punish thick old racist bastards why didn't they flock to the party of Remain? Don't tell me they believed Corbyn's party of Remain as Brexit's his excuse (along with the media, the weather, the time of the year etc) for losing. LibDems had one punt at selling Remain and nobody was interested.
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Post by DunnetHeadMoonraker on Dec 16, 2019 17:43:52 GMT
LibDems stage Peoples Vote MP's group photo. Not sure which one is the new PM as Swinson must be taking the pic. Seriously what is the point of this party? Might as well disband it and give the votes to a party with some chance. Vote LibDem or wipe your arse on your ballot paper-same result. As far as I am aware there are now 11 Lib Dem MP's. Seven female and four male. This photo shows only three who are obviously male. The photo doesn't show Jamie Stone who is the Lib Dem MP for Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross ( it's the most northerly British mainland constituency ) where I live. Has our Jamie transitioned into a female ?
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 16, 2019 17:54:03 GMT
That explains a lot. You would not begin to understand the justice metered out to the Labour Party last week. You must work with a lot of Tories who have made you bitter and twisted. Actually the vast majority of my firm and other lawyers I know are labour/lib dem voters. The vast majority are remainers, partly perhaps because they understand some legal issues relevant to brexit that (for very good reason) non-lawyers wouldn’t know about. I say this not in a condescending way. It is the same way a teacher knows more about the national curriculum, for example, than the majority of non-teachers, or a doctor knows more about the nhs than non-doctors. The minority of lawyers at my firm and with whom I have contact with are tory voters. I am not twisted. I am bitter at the fact that in this country democracy means repeating a lie over and over again and that is enough to dupe people into voting for it. It’s sad, and a reasonable reason to be bitter at this moment in time. The saddest thing of all is that I don’t think the primary reason many people who voted Tory was because they liked them the best. They seem to be mostly voting against labour. What a sorry state our democracy is in when the majority of votes are wasted as we do not have a democratic electoral system. Me and Farage are one and the same on that point. I am not sure exactly what you mean by justice metered out to labour. We have not had a labour government for almost a decade and since the last labour government we as a nation have steadily gone downhill on many things. Austerity and a failure to redistribute wealth fairly are the problems. Thank you for your considered response. I agree with your premise that lawyers know more about the legal issues etc. Everyone comes to their own view of issues from judgements made on information and experience. In my own case I served on a European industrial committee for many years and chaired it for three years. There are many aspects to European union, legal just being one. Others include finance, research and development, trade, security, etc. but in my opinion democracy is the most important. When I was young it was not so important to me and I was more concerned with economics and peace, but as I have grown older and witnessed the ways of the world I have changed my views to having greater concern for freedom and self rule. Most of the other issues can be addressed in a relative short time span, but history teaches us that freedom can take centuries to achieve and if lost be extremely difficult to recover without violence. Just look at Russia or China ( eg Hong Kong). I do not want this country to be part of a united states of Europe, which is the clear objective of those that are in charge of the EU. There is no ideal democracy, it does not exist. Some propose proportional representation, but that just means you get government that no one wanted. In fact in can lead to an extreme minority having undue influence such as the DUP recently, or what the SNP were seeking to achieve with Labour. Your statement that the people have been duped is contemptable. The general public are intuitively wise and know when they are being conned. I notice that many of the losers in this election are blaming the media. Well there is certainly a right wing press, but I think it is in a minority, surely more people are exposed the left wing bias of the BBC and Channel 4. I know people who hate the Daily Mail who have voted Tory in this election, because this election has been about leaving the EU and stopping Corbyn getting into power. That is the justice metered out to Labour who supposedly sat on the fence on Brexit, but were actually bending to the loony left instead of the working class, and proposing the economics of the mad house with policies like nationalisation. When you get into debt, you have to reduce your spending. The world fell into an economic crisis in 2008, which the Blair government earlier in the decade were partly responsible for by relaxing control of the finance industry. The Lib Dems have suffered for supporting austerity during the coalition years, but they knew it was an economic necessity as does any sensible person knows when expenditure exceeds income. The Labour party were the liars pretending austerity was not necessary. Hopefully that period in our history is past and the new government can relax the spending control. Maybe I am wrong in putting sovereignty the highest priority. I know there are "greens" who consider saving the planet more important. But IMO the future of the planet is in the hands of China, USA, India, and Russia who are responsible for most of the pollution. The UK is the 5th largest economy in the world, but 17th on CO2 emissions and a lot lower in the rankings on emissions per head of population. So I consider it an aspect we have little influence on.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Dec 16, 2019 18:20:02 GMT
LibDems stage Peoples Vote MP's group photo. Not sure which one is the new PM as Swinson must be taking the pic. Seriously what is the point of this party? Might as well disband it and give the votes to a party with some chance. Vote LibDem or wipe your arse on your ballot paper-same result. As far as I am aware there are now 11 Lib Dem MP's. Seven female and four male. This photo shows only three who are obviously male. The photo doesn't show Jamie Stone who is the Lib Dem MP for Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross ( it's the most northerly British mainland constituency ) where I live. Has our Jamie transitioned into a female ? Ha ha, no mate he's still a he. Stone hasn't arrived yet and interim leader Sal Brinton joined the group.
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 16, 2019 18:22:24 GMT
Slightly ironic a lawyer making money from the misery of others is advocating change for the poor I bet his stance is something to do with the changes in legal aid 😉 I was in court last week obtaining an injunction against a husband for a victim of marital rape and I will be working on the divorce and finances in due course. Is this making money from misery in the way you describe it? Or do you think that victim should be left in the abusive relationship with no representation and way out? What about when I recover children who have been abducted and taken abroad? The legal aid cuts and cuts to court funding have devastated the system and made justice much harder to achieve. Well said and you are not wrong, but a lot of us are not impressed. I sat in court a few weeks ago listening to a barrister defending a rapist and a GHI with intent who were duly convicted. The barrister was obviously being paid (a lot of money?) via legal aid and doing her job trying to persuade the jury to find the offenders not guilty. The jury found the offenders guilty and the judge sent them to jail. I believe justice was done. Please don't defend the legal profession as though they are all doing a noble job. Some are, as you, working for justice for victims, but there are lots earning a lucrative living defending the criminals in this country.
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Post by felonious on Dec 16, 2019 19:50:15 GMT
LibDems stage Peoples Vote MP's group photo. Not sure which one is the new PM as Swinson must be taking the pic. Seriously what is the point of this party? Might as well disband it and give the votes to a party with some chance. Vote LibDem or wipe your arse on your ballot paper-same result. The whining party in my constituency. If we had a democratic system they would have 90 odd seats and possibly more as many don’t vote for them as the system is rigged against small parties. The lib dems increased their share of the vote by far more than any other party Fixed
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Post by felonious on Dec 16, 2019 19:56:22 GMT
Are these flag shaggers dannyboy Elvis does a good version of Danny Boy Carps. I had it at my funeral when I died. RIP BJR are you now being represented by **************?
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 16, 2019 20:04:40 GMT
Elvis does a good version of Danny Boy Carps. I had it at my funeral when I died. RIP BJR are you now being represented by **************? Thank you very much
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Post by felonious on Dec 16, 2019 20:07:12 GMT
RIP BJR are you now being represented by **************? Thank you very much BJR has left the building
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 16, 2019 21:37:00 GMT
BJR has left the building And Labour's vote has gone Way Down. Way on down.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Dec 16, 2019 22:22:23 GMT
A proper Brexit is back on the table.
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