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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 20:17:37 GMT
Much more like the sort of player we should be acquiring
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Post by boothenboys1863 on May 4, 2017 9:34:38 GMT
Yes please, I think he's brilliant me. Hopefully bring John terry with him aswell..
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Post by Bojan Mackey on May 4, 2017 9:45:59 GMT
Can't wait for him to sign, be a revelation and then be dropped for absolutely no reason.
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Post by Godo on May 4, 2017 12:47:55 GMT
Left back, centre back or DM. Looks very promising and would be an excellent addition. ........but surely doesn't fit the past it, injury prone and in decline profile that we seem to focusing upon?
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Post by humbersidepotter on May 4, 2017 13:19:34 GMT
Brilliant prospect, I'd have him here but he reminds me a lot of Muniesa and I feel with regular game time Muni could be as good.
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Post by jezzascfc on May 4, 2017 13:31:47 GMT
Brilliant prospect, I'd have him here but he reminds me a lot of Muniesa and I feel with regular game time Muni could be as good. Muni is technically very good but his positioning, especially at left back, is shocking, whilst his injury record does give cause for concern. If we are going three at the back, Geoff, Indi, Ake from right to left could be outstanding (yes, I know I have left out Ryan but three at the back can expose his limited ability on the ball and his increasing lack of mobility). In a back four, Ake could be very good competition, or replacement, for Erik.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 4, 2017 13:41:55 GMT
Left back, centre back or DM. Looks very promising and would be an excellent addition. ........but surely doesn't fit the past it, injury prone and in decline profile that we seem to focusing upon? Yes you're right. Saido 23 - past it. Ramadan 20 - past it. Bruno 25 - past it. Allen 27 - past it. Shaqiri 25 - past it. Jack 24 - past it. Imbulla 24 - past it. We do seem to go in for signing over the hill, in decline players don't we?
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 4, 2017 17:28:47 GMT
Brilliant prospect, I'd have him here but he reminds me a lot of Muniesa and I feel with regular game time Muni could be as good. Muni is technically very good but his positioning, especially at left back, is shocking, whilst his injury record does give cause for concern. If we are going three at the back, Geoff, Indi, Ake from right to left could be outstanding (yes, I know I have left out Ryan but three at the back can expose his limited ability on the ball and his increasing lack of mobility). In a back four, Ake could be very good competition, or replacement, for Erik. The problem with that three is Cameron also lacks any passing ability.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 4, 2017 17:38:33 GMT
Left back, centre back or DM. Looks very promising and would be an excellent addition. ........but surely doesn't fit the past it, injury prone and in decline profile that we seem to focusing upon? Yes you're right. Saido 23 - past it. Ramadan 20 - past it. Bruno 25 - past it. Allen 27 - past it. Shaqiri 25 - past it. Jack 24 - past it. Imbulla 24 - past it. We do seem to go in for signing over the hill, in decline players don't we? One of them we don't own. One is our most expensive player and will be off. One is Joe feckin Allen. Butland was signed in TP's era. One the manager doesn't actually rate. One has lots and lots and lots to prove. Ace.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 5, 2017 7:46:24 GMT
Yes you're right. Saido 23 - past it. Ramadan 20 - past it. Bruno 25 - past it. Allen 27 - past it. Shaqiri 25 - past it. Jack 24 - past it. Imbulla 24 - past it. We do seem to go in for signing over the hill, in decline players don't we? One of them we don't own. One is our most expensive player and will be off. One is Joe feckin Allen. Butland was signed in TP's era. One the manager doesn't actually rate. One has lots and lots and lots to prove. Ace. That wasn't the point of the post though was it as you very well know? You've just done your usual twist things to suit your argument trick haven't you? Ace.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 5, 2017 7:48:45 GMT
One of them we don't own. One is our most expensive player and will be off. One is Joe feckin Allen. Butland was signed in TP's era. One the manager doesn't actually rate. One has lots and lots and lots to prove. Ace. That wasn't the point of the post though was it as you very well know? You've just done your usual twist things to suit your argument trick haven't you? Ace. Well your point was to show Hughes has signed young players, he didn't sign one of them so no. The rest is just added gravy!
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 5, 2017 7:55:20 GMT
That wasn't the point of the post though was it as you very well know? You've just done your usual twist things to suit your argument trick haven't you? Ace. Well your point was to show Hughes has signed young players, he didn't sign one of them so no. The rest is just added gravy! Nobody mentioned Hughes. Well I didn't anyway. I was responding to a poster who was implying that the club policy was to recruit old "past it" players which is clearly not true. I made no comment about their ability or viability in the team or whether they're likely to be here after the summer. His post would have been more accurate if it had criticised the retention of our geriatric players rather than alluding to recruitment of old players. That's all. But then you knew that didn't you? 😉
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 5, 2017 7:58:49 GMT
Well your point was to show Hughes has signed young players, he didn't sign one of them so no. The rest is just added gravy! Nobody mentioned Hughes. Well I didn't anyway. I was responding to a poster who was implying that the club policy was to recruit old "past it" players which is clearly not true. I made no comment about their ability or viability in the team or whether they're likely to be here after the summer. His post would have been more accurate if it had criticised the retention of our geriatric players rather than alluding to recruitment of old players. That's all. But then you knew that didn't you? 😉 I did! And I stand by it. On the whole we've recruited way too many old players when we've already had old buggers in their positions. Johnson and Afellay spring to mind immediately. Both unnecessary signings (unless Bardo and a central midfielder left). Them being here also make the signings you mention irrelevant too. Once Crouch signed a new deal it was obvious Joselu was a waste. It makes the recruitment of the few younger players we do sign pretty irrelevant.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 5, 2017 8:05:22 GMT
Nobody mentioned Hughes. Well I didn't anyway. I was responding to a poster who was implying that the club policy was to recruit old "past it" players which is clearly not true. I made no comment about their ability or viability in the team or whether they're likely to be here after the summer. His post would have been more accurate if it had criticised the retention of our geriatric players rather than alluding to recruitment of old players. That's all. But then you knew that didn't you? 😉 I did! And I stand by it. On the whole we've recruited way too many old players when we've already had old buggers in their positions. Johnson and Afellay spring to mind immediately. Both unnecessary signings (unless Bardo and a central midfielder left). Them being here also make the signings you mention irrelevant too. Once Crouch signed a new deal it was obvious Joselu was a waste. It makes the recruitment of the few younger players we do sign pretty irrelevant. I agree that there's not much point in recruiting young players if we're not going to play them and the retention of the Dads Army is very disturbing but again that wasn't what I was responding to. Other than Afellay and Johnson I'm sure our recent recruits have all been fairly youthful. But I'm sure you'll be able to prove me wrong 😜
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Post by followyoudown on May 5, 2017 8:25:29 GMT
I read one article that Chelsea were looking to loan Zouma out as he'd been injured this season and Ake counts as home grown.
I'd think with Cahill, Spongebob, Van Djikk and the highly rated Christensen coming back from loan they might look at selling with Bournemouth having already supposedly offered £15m i'm not sure I'd pay that or more if the likes of Bruno can be found for £8m
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Post by robwahlmann on May 5, 2017 9:55:23 GMT
Brilliant prospect, I'd have him here but he reminds me a lot of Muniesa and I feel with regular game time Muni could be as good. Muni will never be as good as Ake as a defender as he is too slow and not strong enough! Muni is very ordinary and it baffles me that so many supporters belive so much in him! OK, he seems a very nice guy, but still is a very ordinary player! If we could get close to £3M for him I wouldn't hestitate a moment to get rid! A lot of you will probably dislike my opinion on this, but it's my honest opinion. Muni is not a great player, he is not good enough for the PL!
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 10, 2017 11:12:48 GMT
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Post by datguy on Jun 10, 2017 12:05:48 GMT
He's the definition of the perfect Muni upgrade.
Get him in.
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Post by hanibal7 on Jun 10, 2017 12:18:40 GMT
Can't wait for him to sign, be a revelation and then be dropped for absolutely no reason. huge half empty glass, I am amazed u can wake up in the morning, that fkn big cloud hanging over u. Plus it's only an interest, nothing more
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 10, 2017 13:29:08 GMT
Don't see us getting him but if he went to BMouth Id be cheesed off. Excellent player who can play all along the back line.
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Post by PB1863 on Jun 10, 2017 13:32:55 GMT
Too young. Seriously.,,sign up him now.
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Post by kustokie on Jun 10, 2017 13:53:12 GMT
One of them we don't own. One is our most expensive player and will be off. One is Joe feckin Allen. Butland was signed in TP's era. One the manager doesn't actually rate. One has lots and lots and lots to prove. Ace. That wasn't the point of the post though was it as you very well know? You've just done your usual twist things to suit your argument trick haven't you? Ace. Bayern is either a lawyer, a politician or both. They use alternative facts to suit their position. Nowt wrong with that, mind: it's what they do. Back to the topic under discussion: Ake would be a great proposition. However, you can't build a team around loaned players because they are, by definition, short-term solutions to long-term problems, which is a bad business practice. If Ake is any good, which he surely will be, Chelsea will want him back (BMI and Moses all over again). If he's poor, we're stuck with a dud (Wollscheidt, but we signed him anyway). All that said, defensively we are in very, very bad shape, especially if BMI does not sign. Shawcross is the only PL standard defender we have and he'll be 30 this year. The rest is a motley crew: Bardsley, Johnson, Cameron, Pieters, Wollscheidt. If we go with three at the back the best right wing back we have is Diouf, and the best left wing back we have is Pieters. Both can defend but Diouf has the first touch of a baby elephant and Pieters crosses are very hit or mostly miss. His near post cross at Liverpool was a peach for Walters; but mostly they are about as accurate as a one armed man with a bow and arrow.
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Post by kustokie on Jun 10, 2017 13:54:04 GMT
Can't wait for him to sign, be a revelation and then be dropped for absolutely no reason. huge half empty glass, I am amazed u can wake up in the morning, that fkn big cloud hanging over u. Plus it's only an interest, nothing more He does have a point though!
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Post by hanibal7 on Jun 10, 2017 14:42:02 GMT
huge half empty glass, I am amazed u can wake up in the morning, that fkn big cloud hanging over u. Plus it's only an interest, nothing more He does have a point though! He is a manic depressive,
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Post by malteser68 on Jun 10, 2017 16:45:30 GMT
It would be a fantastic signing
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Post by ratters on Jun 10, 2017 16:52:52 GMT
Christensen is better, he is who we should be looking to get from Chelsea
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 10, 2017 17:18:30 GMT
Christensen is better, he is who we should be looking to get from Chelsea There's no chance a club of stature sign him surely? He'd be awesome mind but no chance.
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Post by ratters on Jun 10, 2017 17:52:49 GMT
Christensen is better, he is who we should be looking to get from Chelsea There's no chance a club of stature sign him surely? He'd be awesome mind but no chance. Not saying we would get him, but out of the defenders that chelsea may not require he is the best. I think were dreaming if we think Ake would keep here either. We seem to be struggling to get Bruno, therefore both are out of our league unless it was a loan, but if we are gonna sign young players id prefer they were ours rather than loans
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 10, 2017 18:03:41 GMT
There's no chance a club of stature sign him surely? He'd be awesome mind but no chance. Not saying we would get him, but out of the defenders that chelsea may not require he is the best. I think were dreaming if we think Ake would keep here either. We seem to be struggling to get Bruno, therefore both are out of our league unless it was a loan, but if we are gonna sign young players id prefer they were ours rather than loans Ake should be a player who we stand a chance with. I'd have him as a DM here.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Jun 10, 2017 18:14:06 GMT
This would be a great piece of business.
However, how likely would a move actually be? You would assume that, now that Terry has left, that Ake will be quite far up the pecking order at Chelsea(?)
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