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Post by thevoid on Apr 24, 2017 20:32:00 GMT
Still spreading the stardust I see, Normo? You're on a roll mucker. Thanks, mummy Every time you personally abuse someone on here, I'll be here kidder. Shame I can't say the same about your fellow lefties on here rounding around you, they loathe your rabid dribbling as much as everyone else does.
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Post by manmarking on Apr 24, 2017 20:46:39 GMT
Thanks, mummy Every time you personally abuse someone on here, I'll be here kidder. Shame I can't say the same about your fellow lefties, who loathe your rabid dribbling as much as everyone else does. Lol at all that coming from you Well I'm quaking, big momma. Is this the online equivalent of a good old fashioned face-sit? Wait a sec and let me get me bondage gear on
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Post by britsabroad on Apr 25, 2017 2:33:41 GMT
You should save them yourself . As someone who is 62 this June and saw Cameron pushing out the pensionable age to 66 from 65 I've been cheated of ca. £8,500 so yes I do wish I had collected them Tory Boy! In 1925 when the retirement age of 65 was set the average age of death was 45 years old. The most common age of death in 2015 was 84. The retirement age is still 65. You can work out where I'm going here....
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Post by manmarking on Apr 25, 2017 6:08:48 GMT
As someone who is 62 this June and saw Cameron pushing out the pensionable age to 66 from 65 I've been cheated of ca. £8,500 so yes I do wish I had collected them Tory Boy! In 1925 when the retirement age of 65 was set the average age of death was 45 years old. The most common age of death in 2015 was 84. The retirement age is still 65. You can work out where I'm going here.... Errrrr, that quality of life for the average worker should never be allowed to improve beyond pre-Wall Street Crash levels? That money is more important than people? Any more?
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Post by liquidlen on Apr 25, 2017 7:18:57 GMT
As someone who is 62 this June and saw Cameron pushing out the pensionable age to 66 from 65 I've been cheated of ca. £8,500 so yes I do wish I had collected them Tory Boy! In 1925 when the retirement age of 65 was set the average age of death was 45 years old. The most common age of death in 2015 was 84. The retirement age is still 65. You can work out where I'm going here.... Back in time?
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Post by thevoid on Apr 25, 2017 9:09:11 GMT
Every time you personally abuse someone on here, I'll be here kidder. Shame I can't say the same about your fellow lefties, who loathe your rabid dribbling as much as everyone else does. Lol at all that coming from you Well I'm quaking, big momma. Is this the online equivalent of a good old fashioned face-sit? Wait a sec and let me get me bondage gear on You daft freak 😅
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 25, 2017 9:55:06 GMT
I thought Keir Starmer was one of labour' s big hopes, Jesus the delivery and non contents of his speech just was fucking woeful for the first Labour speech on brexit.
Waffle, Waffle, waffle we'll guarantee unilaterally the rights of EU nationals on day 1 of a Labour government (ignoring the fact that 2026 or 2031 might be a bit late) waffle waffle Waffle.
A promise on something that No one of any seriousness has suggested would be affected, that the EU have turned down doing a deal on several times and with the impeccable timing that only project catastrofuck from Labour could deliver, the same day a poll of the general public shows they are dead against this until expat Britain's rights are guaranteed.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 25, 2017 10:06:11 GMT
I thought Keir Starmer was one of labour' s big hopes, Jesus the delivery and non contents of his speech just was fucking woeful for the first Labour speech on brexit. Waffle, Waffle, waffle we'll guarantee unilaterally the rights of EU nationals on day 1 of a Labour government (ignoring the fact that 2026 or 2031 might be a bit late) waffle waffle Waffle. A promise on something that No one of any seriousness has suggested would be affected, that the EU have turned down doing a deal on several times and with the impeccable timing that only project catastrofuck from Labour could deliver, the same day a poll of the general public shows they are dead against this until expat Britain's rights are guaranteed. luckily the current Brexit Secretary has things under firm control www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-secretary-david-davis-deal-10030198
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 25, 2017 10:49:07 GMT
I thought Keir Starmer was one of labour' s big hopes, Jesus the delivery and non contents of his speech just was fucking woeful for the first Labour speech on brexit. Waffle, Waffle, waffle we'll guarantee unilaterally the rights of EU nationals on day 1 of a Labour government (ignoring the fact that 2026 or 2031 might be a bit late) waffle waffle Waffle. A promise on something that No one of any seriousness has suggested would be affected, that the EU have turned down doing a deal on several times and with the impeccable timing that only project catastrofuck from Labour could deliver, the same day a poll of the general public shows they are dead against this until expat Britain's rights are guaranteed. He just lied on Radio 4 this morning. Pure and simple. And the kernel of remaining in the EU if Labour win the election emerges. EU citizens guaranteed rights unilaterally so no change for individuals. A vote on the deal by the end of next year(!). If Parliament doesn't accept the deal then we go back to the 'negotiating' table to re-open talks all the while staying in the EU so no change for companies, banks and law courts. Of course there's no guarantee the EU will want to "re-open" talks so we have a neat stale mate whilst we remain in the EU.
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 25, 2017 10:53:24 GMT
I thought Keir Starmer was one of labour' s big hopes, Jesus the delivery and non contents of his speech just was fucking woeful for the first Labour speech on brexit. Waffle, Waffle, waffle we'll guarantee unilaterally the rights of EU nationals on day 1 of a Labour government (ignoring the fact that 2026 or 2031 might be a bit late) waffle waffle Waffle. A promise on something that No one of any seriousness has suggested would be affected, that the EU have turned down doing a deal on several times and with the impeccable timing that only project catastrofuck from Labour could deliver, the same day a poll of the general public shows they are dead against this until expat Britain's rights are guaranteed. luckily the current Brexit Secretary has things under firm control www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-secretary-david-davis-deal-10030198 Fake news, he said they did try not they couldn't. There are so many variables should there be no deal any forecast would be worthless. Equally any downside assumption would be repeated as gospel. Janet and John stuff i'm explaining here MoMo.
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 25, 2017 10:57:49 GMT
I thought Keir Starmer was one of labour' s big hopes, Jesus the delivery and non contents of his speech just was fucking woeful for the first Labour speech on brexit. Waffle, Waffle, waffle we'll guarantee unilaterally the rights of EU nationals on day 1 of a Labour government (ignoring the fact that 2026 or 2031 might be a bit late) waffle waffle Waffle. A promise on something that No one of any seriousness has suggested would be affected, that the EU have turned down doing a deal on several times and with the impeccable timing that only project catastrofuck from Labour could deliver, the same day a poll of the general public shows they are dead against this until expat Britain's rights are guaranteed. He just lied on Radio 4 this morning. Pure and simple. And the kernel of remaining in the EU if Labour win the election emerges. EU citizens guaranteed rights unilaterally so no change for individuals. A vote on the deal by the end of next year(!). If Parliament doesn't accept the deal then we go back to the 'negotiating' table to re-open talks all the while staying in the EU so no change for companies, banks and law courts. Of course there's no guarantee the EU will want to "re-open" talks so we have a neat stale mate whilst we remain in the EU. Like you say, a cracking negotiating position if the deal is no good we'll carry on negotiating and of course paying into the EU budget, that'll teach the EU a lesson they'll never forget. They can say goodbye to the 20s in the polls with this sort of nonsense.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 25, 2017 11:05:36 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 25, 2017 11:27:32 GMT
So it's errant nonsense and then your first link backs up my point, have you thought about applying for a job on the Labour campaign. Look at the polls as to who the public are believing and backing.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 25, 2017 11:36:35 GMT
So it's errant nonsense and then your first link backs up my point, have you thought about applying for a job on the Labour campaign. Look at the polls as to who the public are believing and backing. The Tories are in a huge mess over Brexit as well you know. When they inevitably end up matching a lot of Starmer said today and make concessions on freedom of movement, which they will. The swivel eyed right wing loons will come back out to play and then we're in for a right show. Just like the referendum this election is entirely about the future prospects of the Conservative Party and to hell with the Country. Strong and stable leadership my arse. They're a disgrace.
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Post by 3putts on Apr 25, 2017 11:37:41 GMT
question is irrelevant because the tory press are allready doing their hatchet job on him[and rest assured they will have more dirt ready to throw at him in the days leading to the next election.] if people actually listen to him they will see he does talk a lot of sense but sadly he will not get the chance. so we will be struck with another tory government for another 5 years. any investment[what little there will be] will all go to the south,south/west and fuck the rest.
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Post by 3putts on Apr 25, 2017 11:39:39 GMT
it is my view that labour are now un electable at a national level,so why not come out and say we will give the public another chance to vote on brexit. straight choice tory=brexit. labour=remain
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Post by manmarking on Apr 25, 2017 12:08:12 GMT
it is my view that labour are now un electable at a national level,so why not come out and say we will give the public another chance to vote on brexit. straight choice tory=brexit. labour=remain Because it's not that simple mate. The issue goes across party lines. Large numbers of Tories voted to remain (including the prime minister) and vice versa. It's not Brexit that makes Labour unelectable; it's a mixture of a toxic legacy, a corrupt media and a weak leader who's unpopular with his MPs. None of that would be solved by Labour going all out to reverse Brexit
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Post by 3putts on Apr 25, 2017 12:45:26 GMT
it is my view that labour are now un electable at a national level,so why not come out and say we will give the public another chance to vote on brexit. straight choice tory=brexit. labour=remain Because it's not that simple mate. The issue goes across party lines. Large numbers of Tories voted to remain (including the prime minister) and vice versa. It's not Brexit that makes Labour unelectable; it's a mixture of a toxic legacy, a corrupt media and a weak leader who's unpopular with his MPs. None of that would be solved by Labour going all out to reverse Brexit i probably agree i just shudder at this election as i dont feel labour has a chance in hell and we will be stuck with the self interest party. if labour offered us a way out of brexit i am sure they would win. people were missled by the brexit vote and it will be a disaster for our small nation.
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Post by manmarking on Apr 25, 2017 13:21:21 GMT
Because it's not that simple mate. The issue goes across party lines. Large numbers of Tories voted to remain (including the prime minister) and vice versa. It's not Brexit that makes Labour unelectable; it's a mixture of a toxic legacy, a corrupt media and a weak leader who's unpopular with his MPs. None of that would be solved by Labour going all out to reverse Brexit i probably agree i just shudder at this election as i dont feel labour has a chance in hell and we will be stuck with the self interest party. if labour offered us a way out of brexit i am sure they would win. people were missled by the brexit vote and it will be a disaster for our small nation. Totally agree mate, it's not what I'd personally like to see. But equally I don't believe there's anyone in Labour who's electable so I'm fairly blasé about it really Another Blairite would be obliterated just like Jeremy and wouldn't really be any different to the Tories anyway.
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Post by britsabroad on Apr 26, 2017 7:51:45 GMT
In 1925 when the retirement age of 65 was set the average age of death was 45 years old. The most common age of death in 2015 was 84. The retirement age is still 65. You can work out where I'm going here.... Errrrr, that quality of life for the average worker should never be allowed to improve beyond pre-Wall Street Crash levels? That money is more important than people? Any more? I thought you were of the opinion that Britain was at its best in the 1800s when we were still fighting the fuzzies.
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Post by manmarking on Apr 26, 2017 9:27:27 GMT
Errrrr, that quality of life for the average worker should never be allowed to improve beyond pre-Wall Street Crash levels? That money is more important than people? Any more? I thought you were of the opinion that Britain was at its best in the 1800s when we were still fighting the fuzzies. You're getting me confused with mumf, hotlips And you're strawmanning; any chance you could clarify your position on any of the questions I've asked?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Feb 28, 2019 14:38:34 GMT
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Post by murphthesurf on Feb 28, 2019 19:30:30 GMT
And it's a from me.........
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Post by shrewspotter on Feb 28, 2019 19:36:27 GMT
I think Jezza would make an appalling PM, cosying up to the likes of Hezbolah, the Russians and any other ex terrorist state whilst making enemies of the Americans and Israelites. He’d also raise taxes to pay for his free tutition fees and we would become a pushover state that the unions run the businesses.
That said May isn’t that much better, I’m hoping that David Milliband will lead this independence group and create a new centre party that appeals to both business and working class
Obviously only my view
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Post by salopstick on Feb 28, 2019 19:50:31 GMT
Not a cat in hells chance ever now
Backed remain Backs a 2nd referendum
Bar his cult like followers he has no credibility with the working class
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Post by murphthesurf on Feb 28, 2019 20:04:40 GMT
I think Jezza would make an appalling PM, cosying up to the likes of Hezbolah, the Russians and any other ex terrorist state whilst making enemies of the Americans and Israelites. He’d also raise taxes to pay for his free tutition fees and we would become a pushover state that the unions run the businesses. That said May isn’t that much better, I’m hoping that David Milliband will lead this independence group and create a new centre party that appeals to both business and working class Obviously only my view You said it. It just doesn't bear thinking about.
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Post by robstokie on Feb 28, 2019 20:13:42 GMT
I think Jezza would make an appalling PM, cosying up to the likes of Hezbolah, the Russians and any other ex terrorist state whilst making enemies of the Americans and Israelites. He’d also raise taxes to pay for his free tutition fees and we would become a pushover state that the unions run the businesses. That said May isn’t that much better, I’m hoping that David Milliband will lead this independence group and create a new centre party that appeals to both business and working class Obviously only my view Not just his tuition fees - higher taxes on ordinary to support re-nationalisation of pretty much every utility, an expansive and intrusive state, and social programmes which are not really needed, progressively higher taxes on business and commerce which would lead to many local businesses folding due to loss of income due to that and ordinary peoples reduced disposable income and multi-nationals (which before his lefty comrades come for me, i must point out that they do provide jobs and opportunities to working people) sticking two fingers up and moving abroad, which will lead to unemployment going through the roof, the few businesses who survive charging over the odds prices as theres no competition to keep prices down and people being taxed even more to pay for those out of work, which will eventually lead to ordinary people unable to even afford even the most basic neccesities. In short, Socialism doesnt work.
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Post by shrewspotter on Feb 28, 2019 20:21:25 GMT
I think Jezza would make an appalling PM, cosying up to the likes of Hezbolah, the Russians and any other ex terrorist state whilst making enemies of the Americans and Israelites. He’d also raise taxes to pay for his free tutition fees and we would become a pushover state that the unions run the businesses. That said May isn’t that much better, I’m hoping that David Milliband will lead this independence group and create a new centre party that appeals to both business and working class Obviously only my view Not just his tuition fees - higher taxes on ordinary to support re-nationalisation of pretty much every utility, an expansive and intrusive state, and social programmes which are not really needed, progressively higher taxes on business and commerce which would lead to many local businesses folding due to loss of income due to that and ordinary peoples reduced disposable income and multi-nationals (which before his lefty comrades come for me, i must point out that they do provide jobs and opportunities to working people) sticking two fingers up and moving abroad, which will lead to unemployment going through the roof, the few businesses who survive charging over the odds prices as theres no competition to keep prices down and people being taxed even more to pay for those out of work, which will eventually lead to ordinary people unable to even afford even the most basic neccesities. In short, Socialism doesnt work. other than that, do you think he will be a good PM?
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Post by robstokie on Feb 28, 2019 20:28:19 GMT
Not just his tuition fees - higher taxes on ordinary to support re-nationalisation of pretty much every utility, an expansive and intrusive state, and social programmes which are not really needed, progressively higher taxes on business and commerce which would lead to many local businesses folding due to loss of income due to that and ordinary peoples reduced disposable income and multi-nationals (which before his lefty comrades come for me, i must point out that they do provide jobs and opportunities to working people) sticking two fingers up and moving abroad, which will lead to unemployment going through the roof, the few businesses who survive charging over the odds prices as theres no competition to keep prices down and people being taxed even more to pay for those out of work, which will eventually lead to ordinary people unable to even afford even the most basic neccesities. In short, Socialism doesnt work. other than that, do you think he will be a good PM? About as good as Kim Jong Un
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Post by murphthesurf on Feb 28, 2019 20:39:04 GMT
other than that, do you think he will be a good PM? About as good as Kim Jong Un Nah, Nige................. Jezza's nowhere near THAT good. Kim Jong Un knows what he's doing.
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