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Post by nott1 on Apr 17, 2017 19:25:44 GMT
Quick and always gives 100%, it's a yes from me. Is he for sale? Fuck me if they are your only two criteria Stoke may as well sign me and I can save them some money into the bargain! H You are not quick and you are always moaning
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Post by RAF on Apr 17, 2017 19:53:04 GMT
Fuck me if they are your only two criteria Stoke may as well sign me and I can save them some money into the bargain! H You are not quick and you are always moaning :D I'm fucking rapid sunshine. As for moaning that is standard as a modern day footballer so I should have a better chance ;) H
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Post by robstokie on Apr 17, 2017 19:54:57 GMT
Wouldn't be a bad signing, but we would certainly need to ship at least 1 (or preferably 2) of Diouf/SJW/Crouch to realistically make it happen.
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Post by ashleyscfc on Apr 17, 2017 21:51:48 GMT
We have Berahino so I have to wonder what else he brings to the squad.
Id still like us to spend big and bring in a player who can play up top on his own.
Leaving us with:
Berahino - Pacey fox in the box Joselu - Target Man Walters - Work horse New Striker
In reality we will get Berahino Crouch Walters Diouf ....
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Post by fca47 on Apr 17, 2017 21:55:44 GMT
Not remotely an upgrade on Walters, there's a reason why he can't nail down a permanent place in any of the sides he's played for.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 17, 2017 21:58:37 GMT
Not remotely an upgrade on Walters, there's a reason why he can't nail down a permanent place in any of the sides he's played for. He's faster, better at finishing and a better footballer. The teams he's played for have signed better footballers and replaced the plodders, we should take note!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 22:11:35 GMT
Not remotely an upgrade on Walters, there's a reason why he can't nail down a permanent place in any of the sides he's played for. He's faster, better at finishing and a better footballer. The teams he's played for have signed better footballers and replaced the plodders, we should take note! They have almost identical goals/game ratios, Long just shades it in the Premier League and Walters in international football: Long - Premier League (228/46) International (71/17) Walters - Premier League (225/43) International (47/12)
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 17, 2017 22:18:44 GMT
He's faster, better at finishing and a better footballer. The teams he's played for have signed better footballers and replaced the plodders, we should take note! They have almost identical goals/game ratios, Long just shades it in the Premier League and Walters in international football: Long - Premier League (228/46) International (71/17) Walters - Premier League (225/43) International (47/12) I think both are lucky to be footballers nevermind Premier League ones! 2 bald blokes fighting over a comb.
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Post by Gods on Apr 17, 2017 22:33:12 GMT
He's faster, better at finishing and a better footballer. The teams he's played for have signed better footballers and replaced the plodders, we should take note! They have almost identical goals/game ratios, Long just shades it in the Premier League and Walters in international football: Long - Premier League (228/46) International (71/17) Walters - Premier League (225/43) International (47/12) Interesting that, their respective records could hardly be more similar. Many people on here might consider that a reason NOT to sign Long, but many people on here underestimate SJW's contribution.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 17, 2017 22:35:16 GMT
They have almost identical goals/game ratios, Long just shades it in the Premier League and Walters in international football: Long - Premier League (228/46) International (71/17) Walters - Premier League (225/43) International (47/12) Interesting that, their respective records could hardly be more similar. Many people on here might consider that a reason NOT to sign Long, but many people on here underestimate SJW's contribution. I can only speak for myself, I get his contribution. I just yearn to watch a much better footballer and think we'd be better off with one. I think that's ungrateful bastard! 👍
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Post by Gods on Apr 17, 2017 22:46:57 GMT
Interesting that, their respective records could hardly be more similar. Many people on here might consider that a reason NOT to sign Long, but many people on here underestimate SJW's contribution. I can only speak for myself, I get his contribution. I just yearn to watch a much better footballer and think we'd be better off with one. I think that's ungrateful bastard! 👍 Do you think Berahino might be that player? I'll be honest when we signed him I did. I always shit myself when we played against him, he seemed to have that god given ability to just dump a defender flat on his backside. But I've seen little of that since he got here, instead just a short fat fella doing his level best but not making any impact. Just hypothetically were you to start Walters, Long and Berahino in every match next season who would get the most goals? I don't know the answer but I have a feeling if you added Diouf to the list he might beat all 3 but he seems right out of favour. HoHum...
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Post by greenstokie on Apr 18, 2017 9:41:25 GMT
I love Shane Long playing for Ireland. His international goals ratio are better than the stats read. When Trapattoni was manager, he was often played as a late introduced sub. His energy and commitment would be a good fit here at Stoke. He chases lost causes all day long. He's a great header of the ball. He worries defenders into making mistakes. I don't think he's a Walters upgrade, more of an Arnautovic type of similarity. However, he often misses many, many chances, which has blotted his copybook everywhere he's gone. He's always struck me as a player that needs to gamble more in the box to get into better scoring positions.
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Post by clarkeda on Apr 18, 2017 18:40:00 GMT
Joking apart I like Shane Long and think he's similar in style to Odemwingie. He makes clever runs to open space for his teammates and has a good engine. Good point, but odemwingie came in from the right, so does that mean Shaqiri is off?
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Post by Clem Fandango on Apr 18, 2017 18:43:26 GMT
Lets get him signed up to a 4 year contract with the option for another 2 if the current policy is anything to go by.
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Post by pulismaskreplica on Apr 18, 2017 19:31:13 GMT
Joking apart I like Shane Long and think he's similar in style to Odemwingie. He makes clever runs to open space for his teammates and has a good engine. Good point, but odemwingie came in from the right, so does that mean Shaqiri is off? Just another option I reckon - especially with Shaqiri enjoying plenty of time off throughout the season
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Post by bertiestan on Apr 19, 2017 0:51:53 GMT
I'd be OK about it if he signed, I would also be OK about it if he didn't sign.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 5:21:00 GMT
Is it just me, but towards the end of each season then coming up to the transfer window in Jan you start to look forward to some big improvements in the team.
Teams around us getting linked to certain players, thinking hope Stoke are in for him, he'd be brill for us, then the links start to come about Stoke and not only are they very underwhelming, start to hope they arnt true.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Apr 20, 2017 6:52:44 GMT
Not for me. Another 'name' we'd have to satisfy with game time which means more disruption in team selection which leads to inconsistency. The manager needs to be giving the youth players we've already got a chance to fill in the bit part role that Long will inevitably fill.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Apr 20, 2017 9:05:05 GMT
I would have had Long about 3 years ago but not now.
Sturridge would be my number 1 choice so glad to hear we are after him. Sturridge would easily be ahead of Berahino in the pecking order to start upfront if we got him.
Injuries aside he's got pace, trickery and finishing - all things we are sadly lacking.
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 20, 2017 9:08:16 GMT
He's ok for a promoted side but we've moved on from players like him , and we need a 25/:30 million pound forward in the summer
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 20, 2017 9:08:44 GMT
I would have had Long about 3 years ago but not now. Sturridge would be my number 1 choice so glad to hear we are after him. Sturridge would easily be ahead of Berahino in the pecking order to start upfront if we got him. Injuries aside he's got pace, trickery and finishing - all things we are sadly lacking. Play 'em in a 2?
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Apr 20, 2017 9:25:27 GMT
I would have had Long about 3 years ago but not now. Sturridge would be my number 1 choice so glad to hear we are after him. Sturridge would easily be ahead of Berahino in the pecking order to start upfront if we got him. Injuries aside he's got pace, trickery and finishing - all things we are sadly lacking. Play 'em in a 2? in a 2 yes or he can play on right-side in a 4-3-3 in Shaqiri leaves I understand we needed to get hold of Berahino whilst he was available. Sturridge will be a long shot but we have been interested in him for a while so he must be open to coming to Stoke. Would face a lot of competition for his signature. I can see Liverpool being interested in Butland. Of course I would prefer Jack to stay at Stoke next season but we could do worse than swapping Butland for Sturridge if he wanted to leave
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Post by jimmygscfc on Apr 20, 2017 9:46:45 GMT
The prospect of Butland leaving after a season out is too ridiculous to contemplate. He owes us and quite frankly until he's proven his fitness over another season he'd be a massive risk. However, if he comes back as good as before there will be a queue for his signature in 2018.
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Post by duckling on Apr 20, 2017 12:45:11 GMT
What would it take for him to join Stoke? It would be a sideways move career wise, and he would have to uproot his family.
Unless Stoke offer him a significant pay raise, to the point of overpaying him, he might not see any reason to make the move.
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