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Post by crapslinger on Mar 30, 2017 20:39:06 GMT
The scum bag he executed was a terrorist, not sure they are covered under the Geneva convention pretty sure they would not have signed up to it, terrorists should only be taken alive for interrogation purposes after been hit by a substantially sized high velocity round fired from a helicopter gun ship I am pretty sure he would not have had a great deal to say. These so called people had been using cowardly terrorist methods to slaughter and maim our troops, should they expect any mercy ? They are covered yes once taken prisoner by other forces. I suspect most fighters dont know of this or choose to pretend not to understand it. British troops are educated on what it is and how it works. As ive said, he's a really lucky bloke. Would the same be true if a terrorist captured one of our troops ?
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 30, 2017 20:39:18 GMT
I'm all for giving soldiers the benefit of the doubt in what must be trying and unique circumstances, but I can't see where the doubt is on this one. He has been filmed shooting the ISIS fighter at point blank range after he had been disarmed, then admitting that he's broken the recognised rules. If he was let down by his seniors then they must take some of the blame as well, but it doesn't make him not guilty. ISIS fighter ??????? wrong fcuking conflict though he was a terrorist and possibly a Muslim one. Changed now, my bad.
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Post by StokieNath on Mar 30, 2017 20:43:22 GMT
They are covered yes once taken prisoner by other forces. I suspect most fighters dont know of this or choose to pretend not to understand it. British troops are educated on what it is and how it works. As ive said, he's a really lucky bloke. Would the same be true if a terrorist captured one of our troops ? No that's what makes them barbaric cunts. Totally evil. But, we must act humane in situation's as such. Thats what the Geneva convention was brought in for, to protect Nato troops from becoming deep in legal shit.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 30, 2017 20:55:14 GMT
Would the same be true if a terrorist captured one of our troops ? No that's what makes them barbaric cunts. Totally evil. But, we must act humane in situation's as such. Thats what the Geneva convention was brought in for, to protect Nato troops from becoming deep in legal shit. So it's not a level playing field then ! these heathen bastards only understand brutality if that's what it takes then so be it, as the bible says an eye for an eye and all that fight fire with fire gloves are off when fighting terrorists or we are at a disadvantage, these scum suckers opted to fight as terrorist cowards they deserve no rights in the circumstances. The moral high ground means fcuk all to these cave dwelling backward butchers.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Mar 30, 2017 21:11:35 GMT
He was wrong. He was filmed doing wrong. He said on film he was doing wrong. I have no sympathy for him what so ever. The reason British troops are generally respected is because they fight by the rules. And are normally fair and humane as you can be in battle. There is a strict code of engagement they adhere to in combat and treatment of combatants. There have been odd incidents that have been correctly punished. This incident falls into the same. He should have known better and as a leader showed a poor example. The organised support for this case shows a lack of understanding of the morality of war. Murder or manslaughter that's up to the courts but in this case he is an extremely lucky man. Excellent post Salop. My son said exactly the same thing when he returned home on Tuesday from his third Tour of Afghanistan. His actions undermined the standing of the vast majority of British Soldiers who would not have done what he did in similar circumstances. He is no hero to them. A very lucky man
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 30, 2017 21:19:08 GMT
He was wrong. He was filmed doing wrong. He said on film he was doing wrong. I have no sympathy for him what so ever. The reason British troops are generally respected is because they fight by the rules. And are normally fair and humane as you can be in battle. There is a strict code of engagement they adhere to in combat and treatment of combatants. There have been odd incidents that have been correctly punished. This incident falls into the same. He should have known better and as a leader showed a poor example. The organised support for this case shows a lack of understanding of the morality of war. Murder or manslaughter that's up to the courts but in this case he is an extremely lucky man. Excellent post Salop. My son said exactly the same thing when he returned home on Tuesday from his third Tour of Afghanistan. His actions undermined the standing of the vast majority of British Soldiers who would not have done what he did in similar circumstances. He is no hero to them. A very lucky man I thought we pulled out the last of our troops in October 2016 ?
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Mar 30, 2017 21:19:42 GMT
Excellent post Salop. My son said exactly the same thing when he returned home on Tuesday from his third Tour of Afghanistan. His actions undermined the standing of the vast majority of British Soldiers who would not have done what he did in similar circumstances. He is no hero to them. A very lucky man I thought we pulled out the last of our troops in October 2016 ? Are you calling me a liar?
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Post by StokieNath on Mar 30, 2017 21:20:12 GMT
No that's what makes them barbaric cunts. Totally evil. But, we must act humane in situation's as such. Thats what the Geneva convention was brought in for, to protect Nato troops from becoming deep in legal shit. So it's not a level playing field then ! these heathen bastards only understand brutality if that's what it takes then so be it, as the bible says an eye for an eye and all that fight fire with fire gloves are off when fighting terrorists or we are at a disadvantage, these scum suckers opted to fight as terrorist cowards they deserve no rights in the circumstances. The moral high ground means fcuk all to these cave dwelling backward butchers. Both the quran and bible are papers of war, Both are extreme. Law is law. He should have served time for what he did.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 30, 2017 21:23:58 GMT
So it's not a level playing field then ! these heathen bastards only understand brutality if that's what it takes then so be it, as the bible says an eye for an eye and all that fight fire with fire gloves are off when fighting terrorists or we are at a disadvantage, these scum suckers opted to fight as terrorist cowards they deserve no rights in the circumstances. The moral high ground means fcuk all to these cave dwelling backward butchers. Both the quran and bible are papers of war, Both are extreme. Law is law. He should have served time for what he did. He did he shouldn't have done in my opinion but there you go.
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Post by StokieNath on Mar 30, 2017 21:24:54 GMT
Both the quran and bible are papers of war, Both are extreme. Law is law. He should have served time for what he did. He did he shouldn't have done in my opinion but there you go. Its a very opinionated topic.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Mar 30, 2017 21:27:35 GMT
Excellent post Salop. My son said exactly the same thing when he returned home on Tuesday from his third Tour of Afghanistan. His actions undermined the standing of the vast majority of British Soldiers who would not have done what he did in similar circumstances. He is no hero to them. A very lucky man I thought we pulled out the last of our troops in October 2016 ? My son is part of a small contingent of British Soldiers (about 500) over in Bastion helping to train Afghan Police & Afghan Armed Forces. I don't like being called a liar so will you please me outside Delilahs at 2pm before the Liverpool game. I will be wearing red trainers, light blue jeans and a green jacket. We will then discuss this face to face. Make sure you are there.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 30, 2017 21:27:59 GMT
I thought we pulled out the last of our troops in October 2016 ? Are you calling me a liar? No just curious ! I know some US troops are still stationed there to assist the Afghan army, I thought our boys were taken out of the firing line deadline October 2016, what unit is he serving in ?
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 30, 2017 21:32:26 GMT
He did he shouldn't have done in my opinion but there you go. Its a very opinionated topic. Indeed but he has served time, rightly or obviously wrongly the best terrorist is a dead terrorist however that is achieved.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 30, 2017 21:42:50 GMT
I thought we pulled out the last of our troops in October 2016 ? My son is part of a small contingent of British Soldiers (about 500) over in Bastion helping to train Afghan Police & Afghan Armed Forces. I don't like being called a liar so will you please me outside Delilahs at 2pm before the Liverpool game. I will be wearing red trainers, light blue jeans and a green jacket. We will then discuss this face to face. Make sure you are there. Red and green
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Mar 30, 2017 21:51:53 GMT
My son is part of a small contingent of British Soldiers (about 500) over in Bastion helping to train Afghan Police & Afghan Armed Forces. I don't like being called a liar so will you please me outside Delilahs at 2pm before the Liverpool game. I will be wearing red trainers, light blue jeans and a green jacket. We will then discuss this face to face. Make sure you are there. Red and green Just make sure you're there. I'm sick & tired of reading all the fucking bile you spew out on here so let's see what you're like in real life. Lets see you insult people when theyre standing in front of you. Outside Delilahs at 2 before the Liverpool game.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 30, 2017 21:55:54 GMT
Red and green Just make sure you're there. I'm sick & tired of reading all the fucking bile you spew out on here so let's see what you're like in real life. Lets see you insult people when theyre standing in front of you. Outside Delilahs at 2 before the Liverpool game. grow up old man, if you don't like it don't read it or don't respond simple really.
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Post by madnellie on Mar 30, 2017 22:05:17 GMT
Just my two penneth but replace 'Marine' with 'police officer' and even with the same mitigating circumstances no one would have had the slightest bit of sympathy for him if he'd shot an unarmed, compliant prisoner, no matter what crimes that prison had committed. I support our armed forces but blind loyalty to them in the face of such abhorant behaviour helps no one.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 0:50:46 GMT
I thought we pulled out the last of our troops in October 2016 ? My son is part of a small contingent of British Soldiers (about 500) over in Bastion helping to train Afghan Police & Afghan Armed Forces. I don't like being called a liar so will you please me outside Delilahs at 2pm before the Liverpool game. I will be wearing red trainers, light blue jeans and a green jacket. We will then discuss this face to face. Make sure you are there. Blimey Wizzard...Be carefull...Acts of a sexual nature in public are a criminal offence, and at 2PM on matchday there could well be children about. Might I suggest you find a more private place where Crapslinger can "Please" you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 0:51:53 GMT
Just make sure you're there. I'm sick & tired of reading all the fucking bile you spew out on here so let's see what you're like in real life. Lets see you insult people when theyre standing in front of you. Outside Delilahs at 2 before the Liverpool game. grow up old man, if you don't like it don't read it or don't respond simple really. Have you decided how you are going to PLEASE him yet...
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Post by partickpotter on Mar 31, 2017 6:16:09 GMT
Red and green Just make sure you're there. I'm sick & tired of reading all the fucking bile you spew out on here so let's see what you're like in real life. Lets see you insult people when theyre standing in front of you. Outside Delilahs at 2 before the Liverpool game. Play fair now - keyboard warriors don't come out to play. They just get stuck into that keyboard.
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Post by felonious on Mar 31, 2017 6:51:11 GMT
Just make sure you're there. I'm sick & tired of reading all the fucking bile you spew out on here so let's see what you're like in real life. Lets see you insult people when theyre standing in front of you. Outside Delilahs at 2 before the Liverpool game. Play fair now - keyboard warriors don't come out to play. They just get stuck into that keyboard. Let's hope that Essexstokie hasn't seen this and it hasn't put another few thousand from posting on here.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Mar 31, 2017 8:12:32 GMT
I wonder if when Wizard logs in today & he's sobered up he'll offer an apology to Carps. He quite clearly asked a question & you've gone flying off the handle giving it ten men & made a dick of yourself.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Mar 31, 2017 12:19:39 GMT
Just make sure you're there. I'm sick & tired of reading all the fucking bile you spew out on here so let's see what you're like in real life. Lets see you insult people when theyre standing in front of you. Outside Delilahs at 2 before the Liverpool game. grow up old man, if you don't like it don't read it or don't respond simple really. You need to meet me outside Delilahs at 2pm before the Liverpool game. I will bring my son along and he can explain what he's been doing in Afghanistan. You can then repeat what you've said on here face to face. Make sure you are there. I will remind you again as the day gets nearer.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 31, 2017 12:27:50 GMT
I wonder if when Wizard logs in today & he's sobered up he'll offer an apology to Carps. He quite clearly asked a question & you've gone flying off the handle giving it ten men & made a dick of yourself. Or maybe carpy is a habitual troll who is happy to throw out inferences about people and their families, who are clearly doing more than he ever fucking has to fight these forces and see how they operate in reality without first checking his facts. Happy to sound off and be a keyboard warrior whilst insulting those that actually DO make a real and tangible difference. Doesn't have the balls to go out there and do what wizzardofdribble 's son is doing but is happy to question the authenticity of whether or not they really are doing it from the comfort of his fucking living room. Pretty much the definition of a fucking cowardly keyboard warrior.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Mar 31, 2017 12:34:34 GMT
I wonder if when Wizard logs in today & he's sobered up he'll offer an apology to Carps. He quite clearly asked a question & you've gone flying off the handle giving it ten men & made a dick of yourself. Or maybe carpy is a habitual troll who is happy to throw out inferences about people and their families, who are clearly doing more than he ever fucking has to fight these forces and see how they operate in reality without first checking his facts. Happy to sound off and be a keyboard warrior whilst insulting those that actually DO make a real and tangible difference. Doesn't have the balls to go out there and do what wizzardofdribble 's son is doing but is happy to question the authenticity of whether or not they really are doing it from the comfort of his fucking living room. Pretty much the definition of a fucking cowardly keyboard warrior. Can you point out to me where Carps has insulted Wizard or his son, or where he's called Wizard a liar... Now incase you've got a short fuse like Wizard & are about to threaten to give me a kicking, I'd just like to make clear that I'm not calling you a liar or anything, I just genuinely can't see where any of this happened, so I've obviously missed the post. As far as I'm aware (And I could be wrong, that's why I'm asking for you to show me) this all started when Carps asked the question "I thought we'd pulled all our troops out"... Which, to me, came across as a genuine question where he was hoping Wizard could correct him & tell him why he was wrong, rather than threaten him.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 31, 2017 12:42:09 GMT
Or maybe carpy is a habitual troll who is happy to throw out inferences about people and their families, who are clearly doing more than he ever fucking has to fight these forces and see how they operate in reality without first checking his facts. Happy to sound off and be a keyboard warrior whilst insulting those that actually DO make a real and tangible difference. Doesn't have the balls to go out there and do what wizzardofdribble 's son is doing but is happy to question the authenticity of whether or not they really are doing it from the comfort of his fucking living room. Pretty much the definition of a fucking cowardly keyboard warrior. Can you point out to me where Carps has insulted Wizard or his son, or where he's called Wizard a liar... Now incase you've got a short fuse like Wizard & are about to threaten to give me a kicking, I'd just like to make clear that I'm not calling you a liar or anything, I just genuinely can't see where any of this happened, so I've obviously missed the post. As far as I'm aware (And I could be wrong, that's why I'm asking for you to show me) this all started when Carps asked the question "I thought we'd pulled all our troops out"... Which, to me, came across as a genuine question where he was hoping Wizard could correct him & tell him why he was wrong, rather than threaten him. It's the part where he then went on to say how HE was aware (as if that's the only way something can be confirmed as fact) that US troops were still around and asked for clarification from Wizzard as to what unit he was in (as if he needs to prove fucking anything to that troll). He's a fucking idiot, always has been and always will be.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Mar 31, 2017 12:47:51 GMT
It's the part where he then went on to say how HE was aware (as if that's the only way something can be confirmed as fact) that US troops were still around and asked for clarification from Wizzard as to what unit he was in (as if he needs to prove fucking anything to that troll). He's a fucking idiot, always has been and always will be. Sorry, Mick but I'm still not seeing it the way you are. Carps' question comes across to me as one of surprise, a sort of "Oh! We're still over there are we?" kind of way. He then goes on to ask a follow up question which, again this is only my opinion, seems to show an interest in Wiazard's son & what he was doing over there... Of course inbetween this Wizard has completely flown off the handle & is bowling around threatening to knock everyone out. Anyroad, that's enough about it all from me, I'm sure carps is big & ugly enough to fight his own battles... Whether that be on the Oatcake or outside Delilah's at 2pm
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 13:20:51 GMT
If any oatcakers are near Delilahs at 2PM before the Liverpool game can they please take a photo of Wizzard, and please pixilate his face for privacy reasons, I am just intrigued to see if the red shoe/green jacket combo works...
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Post by Dutchpeter on Mar 31, 2017 13:24:50 GMT
If any oatcakers are near Delilahs at 2PM before the Liverpool game can they please take a photo of Wizzard, and please pixilate his face for privacy reasons, I am just intrigued to see if the red shoe/green jacket combo works... Beat me to it
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Post by Dutchpeter on Mar 31, 2017 13:29:58 GMT
If it works for Becks...
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