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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 26, 2017 11:26:44 GMT
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 26, 2017 11:44:03 GMT
Good lad by the sounds of it , taller than crouchie as well 🙂
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 26, 2017 11:45:29 GMT
Mate, it's a great piece I put it on Twatter earlier.
Shame some of the total pieces we have within our fan base are so derogatory to him.
They're fucking embarrassing to be honest.
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Post by Trouserdog on Mar 26, 2017 12:13:04 GMT
Sounds like he has the sort of mentality that will give him a chance to succeed.
With Sweeney and Souttar both coming through in the u-23s, we could have two potential replacements for Ryan when the time's right (not yet hopefully!)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 12:24:54 GMT
Typical Premier League shithouse club snapping up youngsters from first teams to stick in their development clubs.
What..its Stoke that have done it?
Brilliant for Stoke and the lad then. Good job he didn't join any other club and did the same or both club and player would have been heavily criticised by someon here!!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 26, 2017 13:27:21 GMT
It is good but he still should be fooked off this summer and stuff like this shouldn't be used in the argument to keep him. Although it is excellent, it doesn't outweigh him or what he doesn't offer us on the pitch. Great attitude from him and Souttar though. |
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Post by potterspele on Mar 26, 2017 14:03:05 GMT
It is good but he still should be fooked off this summer and stuff like this shouldn't be used in the argument to keep him. Although it is excellent, it doesn't outweigh him or what he doesn't offer us on the pitch. Great attitude from him and Souttar though. Why exactly should he be "fooked off"? What's the point of investing in an academy if you aren't willing to try and coach the youngsters to be better. He's 18 - what are you expecting from him? Sounds to me as though he's got a good grasp of his level and willingness to try and improve. That's half the battle won there. If he's not improved in a couple of years then fair enough but it's a bit early for that yet if you ask me. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 26, 2017 14:04:21 GMT
It is good but he still should be fooked off this summer and stuff like this shouldn't be used in the argument to keep him. Although it is excellent, it doesn't outweigh him or what he doesn't offer us on the pitch. Great attitude from him and Souttar though. Why exactly should he be "fooked off"? What's the point of investing in an academy if you aren't willing to try and coach the youngsters to be better. He's 18 - what are you expecting from him? Sounds to me as though he's got a good grasp of his level and willingness to try and improve. That's half the battle won there. If he's not improved in a couple of years then fair enough but it's a bit early for that yet if you ask me. Give your head a wobble and come back to me later. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 14:08:21 GMT
It is good but he still should be fooked off this summer and stuff like this shouldn't be used in the argument to keep him. Although it is excellent, it doesn't outweigh him or what he doesn't offer us on the pitch. Great attitude from him and Souttar though. Why exactly should he be "fooked off"? What's the point of investing in an academy if you aren't willing to try and coach the youngsters to be better. He's 18 - what are you expecting from him? Sounds to me as though he's got a good grasp of his level and willingness to try and improve. That's half the battle won there. If he's not improved in a couple of years then fair enough but it's a bit early for that yet if you ask me. He's on about Adam. |
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Post by potterspele on Mar 26, 2017 14:17:56 GMT
Why exactly should he be "fooked off"? What's the point of investing in an academy if you aren't willing to try and coach the youngsters to be better. He's 18 - what are you expecting from him? Sounds to me as though he's got a good grasp of his level and willingness to try and improve. That's half the battle won there. If he's not improved in a couple of years then fair enough but it's a bit early for that yet if you ask me. He's on about Adam. Yep my bad! On that though I'd probably keep Adam as I like him. See either side of it though with him, no spleen to vent on that. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 26, 2017 14:26:44 GMT
Yep my bad! On that though I'd probably keep Adam as I like him. See either side of it though with him, no spleen to vent on that. Sorry......  |
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Post by wuzza on Mar 26, 2017 14:35:42 GMT
A successful club has many different aspects and the stuff Charlie is doing here is one of them.
Aswell as still being able to make an impact on the park he could have a good role to play in youth development over the next few seasons, he's certainly seems to have a love of the game running through him.
As for Souttar if he'keeps progressing and he's got the right approach he could have a very rewarding career at a club like ours.
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Post by luke45 on Mar 26, 2017 19:02:10 GMT
A successful club has many different aspects and the stuff Charlie is doing here is one of them. Aswell as still being able to make an impact on the park he could have a good role to play in youth development over the next few seasons, he's certainly seems to have a love of the game running through him. Agreed. I can see Charlie being a successful manager after his playing days are over, he always come across well in his occasional media work as a pundit and seems to have a good knowledge of a lot of aspects of the game. I can remember Peter Coates saying in one of his interviews how Charlie never stops talking about football. Clearly he's been a good mentor to Souttar so far as well and possesses good leadership skills. For £4 million he's been an excellent servant to the club for coming up to five years now. |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 26, 2017 19:15:07 GMT
A successful club has many different aspects and the stuff Charlie is doing here is one of them. Aswell as still being able to make an impact on the park he could have a good role to play in youth development over the next few seasons, he's certainly seems to have a love of the game running through him. Agreed. I can see Charlie being a successful manager after his playing days are over, he always come across well in his occasional media work as a pundit and seems to have a good knowledge of a lot of aspects of the game. I can remember Peter Coates saying in one of his interviews how Charlie never stops talking about football. Clearly he's been a good mentor to Souttar so far as well and possesses good leadership skills. For £4 million he's been an excellent servant to the club for coming up to five years now. Totally agree with this and yet the shit he gets on Twitter from some of our support is nothing short of disgusting. He's been a very good player for us who has scored some vital (and stunning goals) along with being a good bloke to have around the club. The favourite Twatter phrase is that he's "a disgrace to his profession". Fuck me, gently. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 26, 2017 19:18:43 GMT
Disgrace to his profession is a bit harsh but his fitness is a pretty sad state of affairs.
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Post by Northy on Mar 26, 2017 19:45:55 GMT
he must be lying as apparently we don't do defensive training, according to a Bournemouth bench warmer by the time he's ready he could be taking over from his mentor,Ryan |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Mar 26, 2017 19:50:17 GMT
Souttar will need a big pair of shoulders if he wants to play for Stoke.
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Post by lordb on Mar 26, 2017 19:53:41 GMT
Charlie on a player coach contract (& more coach than player) makes sense for everyone.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 26, 2017 19:54:24 GMT
He needs a loan to League 2/the Conference next season.
He's a good player but needs toughening up and playing proper football. That level will be ideal for him for now.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 26, 2017 19:57:46 GMT
Charlie on a player coach contract (& more coach than player) makes sense for everyone. He's 31. I think he'd be insulted (I would be). |
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Post by Northy on Mar 26, 2017 19:59:26 GMT
He needs a loan to League 2/the Conference next season. He's a good player but needs toughening up and playing proper football. That level will be ideal for him for now. how many games did he play for dundee utd in the cloggers league? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 26, 2017 20:01:43 GMT
He needs a loan to League 2/the Conference next season. He's a good player but needs toughening up and playing proper football. That level will be ideal for him for now. how many games did he play for dundee utd in the cloggers league? 2 apparently. He's quite wiry, he needs to bulk up a bit and just learn from playing proper football. It sounds like he's getting good tuition now and that will be invaluable, next season he will need to push on. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 26, 2017 20:29:10 GMT
he must be lying as apparently we don't do defensive training, according to a Bournemouth bench warmer by the time he's ready he could be taking over from his mentor,Ryan He's a "not even a wba bench warmer" now isn't he? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 26, 2017 20:32:01 GMT
he must be lying as apparently we don't do defensive training, according to a Bournemouth bench warmer by the time he's ready he could be taking over from his mentor,Ryan He's a "not even a wba bench warmer" now isn't he? True but I think it was clear we didn't do much and Bowen reiterating that we will do some didn't help matters. We still have no organsation at corners. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 26, 2017 20:44:00 GMT
He's a "not even a wba bench warmer" now isn't he? True but I think it was clear we didn't do much and Bowen reiterating that we will do some didn't help matters. We still have no organsation at corners. I disagree. The switch to zonal marking was pretty much forced on us after early season refereeing shenanigans and for the most part we've improved as the season has gone on in that regard. I don't think you can legislate for the mistake Erik/Grant made v Chelsea. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 26, 2017 20:54:54 GMT
True but I think it was clear we didn't do much and Bowen reiterating that we will do some didn't help matters. We still have no organsation at corners. I disagree. The switch to zonal marking was pretty much forced on us after early season refereeing shenanigans and for the most part we've improved as the season has gone on in that regard. I don't think you can legislate for the mistake Erik/Grant made v Chelsea. We were getting overloaded at the back stick every corner. It's piss poor. Like leaving Harry Kane free at a corner. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 26, 2017 22:56:21 GMT
I disagree. The switch to zonal marking was pretty much forced on us after early season refereeing shenanigans and for the most part we've improved as the season has gone on in that regard. I don't think you can legislate for the mistake Erik/Grant made v Chelsea. We were getting overloaded at the back stick every corner. It's piss poor. Like leaving Harry Kane free at a corner. He wasn't at the back post though. He was stood outside of the penalty area pretty much slap bang centre. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 26, 2017 22:59:58 GMT
We were getting overloaded at the back stick every corner. It's piss poor. Like leaving Harry Kane free at a corner. He wasn't at the back post though. He was stood outside of the penalty area pretty much slap bang centre. Bypassing virtually every player we have. There was an overload every time back there. Like against Spurs. What Wilson was saying was the truth imo. It was coming from the heart and he was massively thick for saying it. We clearly didn't practise set pieces and we still clearly barely practise them. The zonal marking is just woeful and needs fucking off asap. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 26, 2017 23:05:54 GMT
He wasn't at the back post though. He was stood outside of the penalty area pretty much slap bang centre. Bypassing virtually every player we have. There was an overload every time back there. Like against Spurs. What Wilson was saying was the truth imo. It was coming from the heart and he was massively thick for saying it. We clearly didn't practise set pieces and we still clearly barely practise them. The zonal marking is just woeful and needs fucking off asap. Hughes and Bowen are both on record as saying they don't like zonal marking but that they felt we had little choice but to switch to it. It's not ideal but we've looked pretty secure off set pieces to me in the main. Gone is the feeling that we will concede every time we face a free kick or corner. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 26, 2017 23:07:52 GMT
Bypassing virtually every player we have. There was an overload every time back there. Like against Spurs. What Wilson was saying was the truth imo. It was coming from the heart and he was massively thick for saying it. We clearly didn't practise set pieces and we still clearly barely practise them. The zonal marking is just woeful and needs fucking off asap. Hughes and Bowen are both on record as saying they don't like zonal marking but that they felt we had little choice but to switch to it. It's not ideal but we've looked pretty secure off set pieces to me in the main. Gone is the feeling that we will concede every time we face a free kick or corner. We'll agree to disagree. |
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