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Post by kustokie on Mar 25, 2017 20:23:01 GMT
Cameron played well and subbed after 65 minutes. Wasn't hurt, which is a relief.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 25, 2017 20:30:51 GMT
Cameron played well and subbed after 65 minutes. Wasn't hurt, which is a relief. Did he play cb or defensive midfield? |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Mar 25, 2017 21:18:32 GMT
Did Wilson P play or was it in Chicago?
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Mar 25, 2017 21:34:50 GMT
Cameron played well and subbed after 65 minutes. Wasn't hurt, which is a relief. Did he play cb or defensive midfield? right back |
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Mar 25, 2017 21:41:29 GMT
IMO cameron was the weakest link for the US, which is harsh because overall they were the better team in every aspect, but I think that is why he was subbed. In the first half all of honduras' attack was focused on their left and he let their players get behind him quite a few times. With brooks out he will probably play cb on Tuesday, unless arena goes with beaker instead.
The goalkeeper from Honduras was absolutely worthless. Played like he was told to let everything past him.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 25, 2017 21:42:31 GMT
Did he play cb or defensive midfield? right back  nearly 5 months out of the game and this is how they reward him!  |
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Mar 25, 2017 21:46:02 GMT
nearly 5 months out of the game and this is how they reward him! the only player we have that is close to being a true right fullback is yedlin, and he's injured. Johnson can play there, also injured, chandler was one of Klinsmann's boys, and Zusi who came on for cameron is an attacking midfielder. The US hasn't had a true right back since cherundolo retired. |
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Post by Mendicant on Mar 25, 2017 21:56:37 GMT
I was gambling in Honduras
I took a little risk...
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 25, 2017 22:20:07 GMT
nearly 5 months out of the game and this is how they reward him! the only player we have that is close to being a true right fullback is yedlin, and he's injured. Johnson can play there, also injured, chandler was one of Klinsmann's boys, and Zusi who came on for cameron is an attacking midfielder. The US hasn't had a true right back since cherundolo retired. How long do you think will it take until you have a pool of decent players for every position? Will the expanded number of MLS franchises help matters? |
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Mar 25, 2017 22:47:22 GMT
the only player we have that is close to being a true right fullback is yedlin, and he's injured. Johnson can play there, also injured, chandler was one of Klinsmann's boys, and Zusi who came on for cameron is an attacking midfielder. The US hasn't had a true right back since cherundolo retired. How long do you think will it take until you have a pool of decent players for every position? Will the expanded number of MLS franchises help matters? Im sure there are plenty of Americans that play right back, and every other position, the US just doesn't have enough elite athletes that play football, IMO. The men's team relies heavily on guys from other countries where football is THE sport. So, I don't think expanding MLS will help that much, just need to convince more Americans that football is a sport they'd rather play than American Football or basketball. Which will take a while. Also, Cameron, controversial as he was for us at right back, played there in the premier league. Which makes him a capable third choice fill in, if not a true rb. |
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Post by kustokie on Mar 25, 2017 23:23:15 GMT
How long do you think will it take until you have a pool of decent players for every position? Will the expanded number of MLS franchises help matters? Im sure there are plenty of Americans that play right back, and every other position, the US just doesn't have enough elite athletes that play football, IMO. The men's team relies heavily on guys from other countries where football is THE sport. So, I don't think expanding MLS will help that much, just need to convince more Americans that football is a sport they'd rather play than American Football or basketball. Which will take a while. Also, Cameron, controversial as he was for us at right back, played there in the premier league. Which makes him a capable third choice fill in, if not a true rb. It's not just football and basketball we have to compete with. Baseball is hugely popular, along with wrestling and athletics (which we call "track"). I just gave up coaching soccer (too old) and I have seen massive improvements since coming here 36 years ago. Overland Park, which is one of the most affluent sections of Kansas City has invested over $50 million in a massive complex for youth soccer including 18 all-weather, heated, floodlit pitches of all sizes. Thousands of kids play there every weekend in leagues ranging in ages from U-6 to U-15 and in all abilities up to academy level. However, it is still really difficult to get kids to focus on just one sport because of peer pressure and the influence of parents. One of the major motivations for parents to get there kids to excel at sport is the possibility of getting a sports scholarship to a major college or university. There's relatively few opportunities to get a scholarship to play soccer for men at college because there are very few colleges that have men's soccer programs. There are lots of opportunities for women to get a college scholarship to play college because of something called Title 9 which requires all colleges and Universities to provide equal opportunities for men and women. Obviously, there are no women's football (gridiron) programs, but loads of programs for women in golf, tennis, soccer. So parents, if you have girls that are decent at those sports look into them - there are great opportunities to get a free education. |
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Mar 26, 2017 1:29:46 GMT
Im sure there are plenty of Americans that play right back, and every other position, the US just doesn't have enough elite athletes that play football, IMO. The men's team relies heavily on guys from other countries where football is THE sport. So, I don't think expanding MLS will help that much, just need to convince more Americans that football is a sport they'd rather play than American Football or basketball. Which will take a while. Also, Cameron, controversial as he was for us at right back, played there in the premier league. Which makes him a capable third choice fill in, if not a true rb. It's not just football and basketball we have to compete with. Baseball is hugely popular, along with wrestling and athletics (which we call "track"). I just gave up coaching soccer (too old) and I have seen massive improvements since coming here 36 years ago. Overland Park, which is one of the most affluent sections of Kansas City has invested over $50 million in a massive complex for youth soccer including 18 all-weather, heated, floodlit pitches of all sizes. Thousands of kids play there every weekend in leagues ranging in ages from U-6 to U-15 and in all abilities up to academy level. However, it is still really difficult to get kids to focus on just one sport because of peer pressure and the influence of parents. One of the major motivations for parents to get there kids to excel at sport is the possibility of getting a sports scholarship to a major college or university. There's relatively few opportunities to get a scholarship to play soccer for men at college because there are very few colleges that have men's soccer programs. There are lots of opportunities for women to get a college scholarship to play college because of something called Title 9 which requires all colleges and Universities to provide equal opportunities for men and women. Obviously, there are no women's football (gridiron) programs, but loads of programs for women in golf, tennis, soccer. So parents, if you have girls that are decent at those sports look into them - there are great opportunities to get a free education. yeah, I agree with most of that. Wealthier places, affluent suburbs and such, tend to have more soccer families. The exception being Latino communities in inner cities and some farm areas. Not a lot of Black, working class, or rural kids grow up playing the sport over here, which is a huge untapped section of the population. Title 9 is interesting. I played at a division II school, where the (American) football team went away and the football (soccer) team was kept. This made up for the spending difference, as all the other sports required the same amount of players, equipment, etc. But this is in left leaning California, so I don't see that ever happening in places like the south where "soccer" is about as popular as gay marriage. |
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Post by kustokie on Mar 26, 2017 3:21:40 GMT
It's not just football and basketball we have to compete with. Baseball is hugely popular, along with wrestling and athletics (which we call "track"). I just gave up coaching soccer (too old) and I have seen massive improvements since coming here 36 years ago. Overland Park, which is one of the most affluent sections of Kansas City has invested over $50 million in a massive complex for youth soccer including 18 all-weather, heated, floodlit pitches of all sizes. Thousands of kids play there every weekend in leagues ranging in ages from U-6 to U-15 and in all abilities up to academy level. However, it is still really difficult to get kids to focus on just one sport because of peer pressure and the influence of parents. One of the major motivations for parents to get there kids to excel at sport is the possibility of getting a sports scholarship to a major college or university. There's relatively few opportunities to get a scholarship to play soccer for men at college because there are very few colleges that have men's soccer programs. There are lots of opportunities for women to get a college scholarship to play college because of something called Title 9 which requires all colleges and Universities to provide equal opportunities for men and women. Obviously, there are no women's football (gridiron) programs, but loads of programs for women in golf, tennis, soccer. So parents, if you have girls that are decent at those sports look into them - there are great opportunities to get a free education. yeah, I agree with most of that. Wealthier places, affluent suburbs and such, tend to have more soccer families. The exception being Latino communities in inner cities and some farm areas. Not a lot of Black, working class, or rural kids grow up playing the sport over here, which is a huge untapped section of the population. Title 9 is interesting. I played at a division II school, where the (American) football team went away and the football (soccer) team was kept. This made up for the spending difference, as all the other sports required the same amount of players, equipment, etc. But this is in left leaning California, so I don't see that ever happening in places like the south where "soccer" is about as popular as gay marriage. We live Maryville, MO (as you probably know, home of the Div II, football and basketball National Champions Northwest Missouri State University). Our HS was runner up in the State Football championship. We are typical small college town (pop. 10,000 plus not including students). So we have a mix of blue collar and college folk. Even so, we still have a passable youth soccer program. We have about 300 in a "recreational league", two boys "competitive" teams (U-10 and U-14) and three "competitive" girls team (U-10, U-12 and U-14). But the killer is not so much competition with football as the distance we have to travel to play in competitive league. The nearest decent league is in Kansas City, so our "home pitches" are 85 miles away and we sometimes have to travel 300 miles round trip for away games on the south side of Kansas City. |
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Post by eponymouse on Mar 26, 2017 22:56:30 GMT
There's relatively few opportunities to get a scholarship to play soccer for men at college because there are very few colleges that have men's soccer programs. Virtually every Community college, college and university in the US has a men's soccer program. |
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Post by eponymouse on Mar 26, 2017 23:01:50 GMT
IMO cameron was the weakest link for the US, which is harsh because overall they were the better team in every aspect, but I think that is why he was subbed. In the first half all of honduras' attack was focused on their left and he let their players get behind him quite a few times. With brooks out he will probably play cb on Tuesday, unless arena goes with beaker instead. The goalkeeper from Honduras was absolutely worthless. Played like he was told to let everything past him. Completely disagree. Not even close to the weakest link. Other than Dempsey and Pulisic (who is legit class) Geoff was best on pitch. Certainly the best on the back line. Very steady. Made no mistakes and had more clearances than anyone. Reportedly had a thigh issue pregame. And yes Honduras goalkeeper was shocking. And not just in a had a tough day way. There is no there there. |
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Mar 27, 2017 4:35:17 GMT
IMO cameron was the weakest link for the US, which is harsh because overall they were the better team in every aspect, but I think that is why he was subbed. In the first half all of honduras' attack was focused on their left and he let their players get behind him quite a few times. With brooks out he will probably play cb on Tuesday, unless arena goes with beaker instead. The goalkeeper from Honduras was absolutely worthless. Played like he was told to let everything past him. Completely disagree. Not even close to the weakest link. Other than Dempsey and Pulisic (who is legit class) Geoff was best on pitch. Certainly the best on the back line. Very steady. Made no mistakes and had more clearances than anyone. Reportedly had a thigh issue pregame. And yes Honduras goalkeeper was shocking. And not just in a had a tough day way. There is no there there. Best of the back line? Nope. Every time honduras got a ball into the box it was from attacking his flank. They clearly were playing the ball into the huge gap between him and the other defenders. Meanwhile, the left side of the defence didn't have to do much because honduras were so poor and they never ventured forward on that side of the pitch. I like cameron but he was far from one of the best on the night. Pulisic, Dempsey, Bradley, nagbe, Brooks, and Gonzalez all had better games imo. |
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Post by lancashirelad on Mar 27, 2017 6:34:36 GMT
Interesting insight into American sport for youngsters.
I am not fan of major American sports as I like continuous sport but that's the way I was brought up. Basketball is fast but still a sport I cannot get into.
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Post by dadofsam on Mar 27, 2017 8:04:17 GMT
I was gambling in Honduras I took a little risk... "Send Lawyers guns and money, get me out of this" |
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Post by eponymouse on Mar 27, 2017 9:54:38 GMT
We watched a different game. Gonzalez was an absolute shambles.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 14:01:10 GMT
Virtually every Community college, college and university in the US has a men's soccer program. My town of Pahrump NV (population 36K) has an active men and women's soccer program. They're not that good though  GD |
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nearly 5 months out of the game and this is how they reward him! 
