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Post by WhyDelilah on Mar 24, 2017 13:07:58 GMT
I think that effectively writes Ryan off every getting the call again.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Mar 24, 2017 13:10:22 GMT
Good news.
Harsh on Ryan and i'm sure he'll feel different but i want him nowhere near the squad. We gain nothing from it.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 24, 2017 13:11:19 GMT
I think that effectively writes Ryan off every getting the call again. I think he's probably accepted that. I have. But fuck me, Ben Gibson? Really? How does he fit into this 3 at the back ball playing centre backs? He's a bigger clogger than Ryan.
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Post by lordb on Mar 24, 2017 13:18:19 GMT
Gibson has played well
would have preferred Maguire especially as he has played (& excelled at times) in a three whereas Gibson has been playing in a flat back 4
re Ryan this has probably been his worst season however his perfomrnace v Aguero the other week was right out of the top drawer
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Post by Fenparkpotter on Mar 24, 2017 13:20:53 GMT
Think they'll recall Terry Butcher before Ryan gets a look-in. Happy he's not involved with England but must be a real slap in the face
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Post by PotteringThrough on Mar 24, 2017 13:24:04 GMT
Ridiculous in my opinion. Ryan is a better defender and footballer than Gibson.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 24, 2017 13:24:36 GMT
Gibson has played well would have preferred Maguire especially as he has played (& excelled at times) in a three whereas Gibson has been playing in a flat back 4 re Ryan this has probably been his worst season however his perfomrnace v Aguero the other week was right out of the top drawer I haven't seen that much of him to make a real judgement but he just looks like a typical British 'clogger' of a centre back. Did he play against us the other week? If he did he was pretty nondescript. In fact if he did he did sod all of note. I agree Maguire would have been my pick. Although I'm glad he hasn't because it would put a few more 00's on his tag in case we're interested (which I hope we are).
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Post by RichJonesy on Mar 24, 2017 13:28:47 GMT
Stupid call up. Apparently Cahill is suspended this game and has left the camp as well. Would that suspension of been from before the Germany game? Doesn't make sense having him as captain and in the team if they knew he wouldn't play Saturday.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Mar 24, 2017 13:41:42 GMT
Ryan's too old now to get back into the fold (please don't mention Defoe).
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 24, 2017 13:54:41 GMT
Who?
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Mar 24, 2017 14:17:06 GMT
I think that effectively writes Ryan off every getting the call again. I think he's probably accepted that. I have. But fuck me, Ben Gibson? Really? How does he fit into this 3 at the back ball playing centre backs? He's a bigger clogger than Ryan. He fits in to a back 3 because he's a natural left footed central defender - the others available are not.
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Post by scfcwebby on Mar 24, 2017 14:18:27 GMT
Ryan's too old now to get back into the fold (please don't mention Defoe). Defoe is 34 mate and has had a call up
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 24, 2017 14:20:39 GMT
HA!
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Mar 24, 2017 14:25:32 GMT
Think he probably wants to bring the younger centre halfs through like Michael Keane & Ben Gibson. Understandable in that sense, and Boro's defence actually hasn't been too bad this season (not great granted)
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Post by mattador78 on Mar 24, 2017 14:29:52 GMT
🤦🏻♂️
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Post by Cast no shadow on Mar 24, 2017 14:37:17 GMT
2 centre halves who were playing in the championship last season in the england squad, The Shawcross ship has sailed, 9 seasons a captain, a rock at the back in the prem, (minus what? 10-15 games) countless motm performances. A period of that he was easily englands best centre half, absolute joke. All because he plays for stoke, some of the English players at the so called 'bigger clubs' are carried by foreign players, do one FA
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Post by Gods on Mar 24, 2017 14:37:56 GMT
I must admit I woudn't recognise him if he stood up in me soup! Anyway, here he is tugging at the shirt of a silver haired Stoke City player:
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Post by RichJonesy on Mar 24, 2017 14:50:31 GMT
2 centre halves who were playing in the championship last season in the england squad, The Shawcross ship has sailed, 9 seasons a captain, a rock at the back in the prem, (minus what? 10-15 games) countless motm performances. A period of that he was easily englands best centre half, absolute joke. All because he plays for stoke, some of the English players at the so called 'bigger clubs' are carried by foreign players, do one FA FA don't pick the squad. And it's not like Gibson is in a top team either. Unlike Keane. Like I says before it's a weird choice for me but I think you're looking too much into it!
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 24, 2017 15:02:04 GMT
2 players not long from the Championship and maybe not long before going back there.
At least the England manager is not tunnel-visioned and only picking players from the top 6 clubs.
To be fair Ryan's form has improved since he lost it last season and at the start of this, but he hardly has stood out as England standard even so. Personally I think he is best out of it and resting his back.
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Post by Fenparkpotter on Mar 24, 2017 15:03:58 GMT
Possibly some Boro favouritism for the one-time manager..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2017 15:14:24 GMT
Don't want Ryan anywhere near that squad to be honest.
He'd only get injured.
Feel for Ryan though being constantly overlooked.
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Post by lancashirelad on Mar 24, 2017 15:38:18 GMT
When Ryan was in his prime England had John Terry so that's why he missed out. Nowadays defender are reactive and tippy tappy thus not his strengths.
If England needed a leader at the back then he would be in but Cahill is only one who instructs there now. Now football is almost non contact sadly we have an era of tippy tappy footballers.
Gibson played for the U21s with Southgate in charge thus he is sticking with whom he knows. I think when Butland is up to speed Southgate will have him as No. 1.
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Post by silverdollar on Mar 24, 2017 15:59:31 GMT
2 centre halves who were playing in the championship last season in the england squad, The Shawcross ship has sailed, 9 seasons a captain, a rock at the back in the prem, (minus what? 10-15 games) countless motm performances. A period of that he was easily englands best centre half, absolute joke. All because he plays for stoke, some of the English players at the so called 'bigger clubs' are carried by foreign players, do one FA I could accept your view if the support for Ryan was coming from fans around the country but I have to be honest I haven't seen many. Ryan has never really been England class in my view!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 24, 2017 16:04:32 GMT
2 centre halves who were playing in the championship last season in the england squad, The Shawcross ship has sailed, 9 seasons a captain, a rock at the back in the prem, (minus what? 10-15 games) countless motm performances. A period of that he was easily englands best centre half, absolute joke. All because he plays for stoke, some of the English players at the so called 'bigger clubs' are carried by foreign players, do one FA I could accept your view if the support for Ryan was coming from fans around the country but I have to be honest I haven't seen many. Ryan has never really been England class in my view! He's a better defender than all of the current CBs pretty easily.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Mar 24, 2017 16:45:50 GMT
He should never have turned Wales down!!!
Mind you....he wouldn't get in that team either unless it was okayed by Ramsey!!! 😩
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Mar 24, 2017 16:48:29 GMT
Think they'll recall Terry Butcher before Ryan gets a look-in. Happy he's not involved with England but must be a real slap in the face They'd recall Bobby Moore before Ryan!!!
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 24, 2017 16:53:38 GMT
I think he's probably accepted that. I have. But fuck me, Ben Gibson? Really? How does he fit into this 3 at the back ball playing centre backs? He's a bigger clogger than Ryan. He fits in to a back 3 because he's a natural left footed central defender - the others available are not. If nothing else I suppose, at least he'll put his balls on the line unlike that total fanny Cahill.
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 24, 2017 16:59:10 GMT
Ryan's had an up and down season , he has only recently looked back to his best , let's get him consistently at the top of his game before we talk about England .
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Mar 24, 2017 17:04:59 GMT
I'm fucking sick of England managers keep picking the same players from the big clubs, it's a fucking disgrace! Why don't they give players from other clubs a chance?!?!?!
... What? They've picked some bloke from who? Middlesbrough? Who the fuck are they? I've never even heard of this prick! Fucking disgraceful England! Load of shit!
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Post by fca47 on Mar 24, 2017 20:41:54 GMT
Don't know whether anyone heard the discussion on Talksport about this, yes I know. Jason Cundy was discussing this, someone was proposing Ryan, he said Oh God no, he was unlucky not to be called up a few years ago, but that he had watched Ryan against Chelsea, and in his opinion Ryan could no longer run, and there is no way he would get a call up.
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