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Post by woodstein on Mar 12, 2017 7:58:04 GMT
I see the Turks are kicking off. Erdogan calling the Germans Nazi's (never!) and even saying the Dutch the same (definitely never). Now trouble in Holland overnight. Turkey have a cheek with what they do to Kurds. If Erdogan is not happy then let him welcome them back from mainstream Europe to Turkey.
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Post by bathstoke on Mar 12, 2017 8:21:04 GMT
Let's not forget what they did to our Christian bros in Armenia
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Post by Waggy on Mar 12, 2017 8:32:19 GMT
I see the Turks are kicking off. Erdogan calling the Germans Nazi's (never!) and even saying the Dutch the same (definitely never). Now trouble in Holland overnight. Turkey have a cheek with what they do to Kurds. If Erdogan is not happy then let him welcome them back from mainstream Europe to Turkey. 1.4 million Turks live in Germany, you would think he would keep his views of Germans to himself |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Mar 12, 2017 11:48:19 GMT
 A pro-Erdogan newspaper saying how Holland only has 48,000 troops but there are 400,000 Turks living there. What are they getting at with that kind of headline? |
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Post by stockportstokie on Mar 12, 2017 12:00:02 GMT
It means the Ottoman empire will rise again
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Post by cooper67 on Mar 12, 2017 12:44:02 GMT
I bet Kemal Ataturk is turning in his mausoleum.
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Post by desman2 on Mar 12, 2017 14:02:04 GMT
A pro-Erdogan newspaper saying how Holland only has 48,000 troops but there are 400,000 Turks living there. What are they getting at with that kind of headline? I bet 400,000 of them dont have machine guns tanks and rocket launchers though. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 12, 2017 14:23:23 GMT
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Post by dutchstokie on Mar 12, 2017 14:27:59 GMT
There wasn't much going on to be fair.....
The news has highlighted today however, that there are more widespread demonstrations planned for tonight
Get the water canons out again I say!!!
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Mar 12, 2017 14:44:29 GMT
I love the way this power hungry dictator is calling everyone a Nazi for not allowing Turkish political rallies in their country. ... Foreign political rallies are banned in Turkey. |
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Post by Mendicant on Mar 12, 2017 15:02:23 GMT
I wonder if this was all arranged by both sides like some political WWF wrestling match...
Turkey: We'll call you "Nazis" which nobody will take seriously. Then you don't let one of our Ministers into the Netherlands.
Netherlands: Sounds good, can you send out some of your activist goons to smash a few winderz? Then our PM can look like a hardliner, Wilders won't like that.
Turkey: Deal.
The Dutch government get to flex their muscles ahead of an election. Erdogan gets to show his belligerent streak in public. At the end of it all, Turkey joins what's left of the EU just like Ravishing Rick Rude and Big Boss Man got paid.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2017 17:47:14 GMT
Fuck Turkey
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Post by bathstoke on Mar 12, 2017 17:55:04 GMT
It means the Ottoman empire will rise again Is our bluff being called... |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 12, 2017 19:13:20 GMT
I wonder if this was all arranged by both sides like some political WWF wrestling match... Turkey: We'll call you "Nazis" which nobody will take seriously. Then you don't let one of our Ministers into the Netherlands. Netherlands: Sounds good, can you send out some of your activist goons to smash a few winderz? Then our PM can look like a hardliner, Wilders won't like that. Turkey: Deal. The Dutch government get to flex their muscles ahead of an election. Erdogan gets to show his belligerent streak in public. At the end of it all, Turkey joins what's left of the EU just like Ravishing Rick Rude and Big Boss Man got paid. I'm not usually a conspiracy theory type but I think you might be on to something here. BBC reporting this afternoon that Erdogan will wait until after Wednesday's Dutch election to disclose his diplomatic retaliation against Holland ?!? Rutte is allowed to show a 'robust' defence to claims of Nazism from an Islamic country and woo's the undecided right wing-lite voters on Wednesday. I'll bet a pound to a penny if Rutte wins the election then this will all be a 'diplomatic mis-understanding' or some such. |
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 12, 2017 20:22:36 GMT
I love the way this power hungry dictator is calling everyone a Nazi for not allowing Turkish political rallies in their country. ... Foreign political rallies are banned in Turkey. I couldn't guess whether you disliked Muslims more than you love anti-democratic thugs before I read this. I know some great Turks who hate Erdogan and love democracy. Now I can't guess if you'd dislike them more because they're Turkish or because you'd think they're whining SJWs. |
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Post by elystokie on Mar 12, 2017 21:38:39 GMT
I spent 3 or 4 hours in a Police cell in Istanbul once.
It was quite unpleasant, particularly as I'd just watched the film 'Midnight Express' a week or so earlier and my mate, who was in the cell with me, insisted making an almighty fuss, rattling the bars and such like.
Carry on :)
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Post by Northy on Mar 12, 2017 22:03:06 GMT
I love the way this power hungry dictator is calling everyone a Nazi for not allowing Turkish political rallies in their country. ... Foreign political rallies are banned in Turkey. I couldn't guess whether you disliked Muslims more than you love anti-democratic thugs before I read this. I know some great Turks who hate Erdogan and love democracy. Now I can't guess if you'd dislike them more because they're Turkish or because you'd think they're whining SJWs. super jon walters? |
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Post by Northy on Mar 12, 2017 22:03:50 GMT
I spent 3 or 4 hours in a Police cell in Istanbul once. It was quite unpleasant, particularly as I'd just watched the film 'Midnight Express' a week or so earlier and my mate, who was in the cell with me, insisted making an almighty fuss, rattling the bars and such like. Carry on  caught in the cages after closing hours, or drink related ? |
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Post by elystokie on Mar 12, 2017 22:28:56 GMT
I spent 3 or 4 hours in a Police cell in Istanbul once. It was quite unpleasant, particularly as I'd just watched the film 'Midnight Express' a week or so earlier and my mate, who was in the cell with me, insisted making an almighty fuss, rattling the bars and such like. Carry on :) caught in the cages after closing hours, or drink related ? Far more boring than that I'm afraid :( Northern Irish mate of mine, always used to cash more than he ever spent, used to give the remainder to me on the last night in cos he always stayed onboard, I hated it cos I always felt obliged to get his mum a gizzet, on this occasion the only money I had left was what he'd given me, it was 'a bit creased', turns out defacing the currency is an offence 'cos of the Attaturk chappie being on the notes and the taxi driver took offence :( Taxi driver dropped us at an army post first of all, they pointed (presumably loaded) rifles at us and had us stood with our arms in the air and our shopping at our feet, I'd probably have been worried if I wasn't shitfaced... |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 12, 2017 22:28:56 GMT
I love the way this power hungry dictator is calling everyone a Nazi for not allowing Turkish political rallies in their country. ... Foreign political rallies are banned in Turkey. I couldn't guess whether you disliked Muslims more than you love anti-democratic thugs before I read this. I know some great Turks who hate Erdogan and love democracy. Now I can't guess if you'd dislike them more because they're Turkish or because you'd think they're whining SJWs. So apart from your petty personal digs at TDC what do actually think about a Foreign Head of State electioneering in another country? Trump rallies in Germany to secure the army/air force personnel votes. Macron addressing the hundreds of thousands of French citizens in London, or Le Pen for that matter. The Turks plan campaign rallies in Holland, the Dutch authorities don't allow Turkish officials to attend, the officials fly out anyway, the officials get turned away, the supporters of the officials start violent protests. Why are you not condemning this? Instead of trolling someone who is. Here's the Turkish flag flying above the Dutch embassy in Istanbul after a protester took the Dutch one down. Happy with that?  |
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 13, 2017 0:29:02 GMT
So apart from your petty personal digs at TDC what do actually think about a Foreign Head of State electioneering in another country? Erdogan can go fuck himself. If American candidates want to go and talk on their own military bases though, I'm not sure I have a problem with that. |
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Post by Northy on Mar 13, 2017 6:43:35 GMT
caught in the cages after closing hours, or drink related ? Far more boring than that I'm afraid  Northern Irish mate of mine, always used to cash more than he ever spent, used to give the remainder to me on the last night in cos he always stayed onboard, I hated it cos I always felt obliged to get his mum a gizzet, on this occasion the only money I had left was what he'd given me, it was 'a bit creased', turns out defacing the currency is an offence 'cos of the Attaturk chappie being on the notes and the taxi driver took offence Taxi driver dropped us at an army post first of all, they pointed (presumably loaded) rifles at us and had us stood with our arms in the air and our shopping at our feet, I'd probably have been worried if I wasn't shitfaced... Not the best place to be when there's tension in the air, we were there when there was marshall law and a curfew, 5 to midnight and a fleet of taxis heading back to the ship pronto and a load of gun toting soldiers on the jetty |
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Post by bathstoke on Mar 13, 2017 7:24:32 GMT
I spent 3 or 4 hours in a Police cell in Istanbul once. It was quite unpleasant, particularly as I'd just watched the film 'Midnight Express' a week or so earlier and my mate, who was in the cell with me, insisted making an almighty fuss, rattling the bars and such like. Carry on Snap! |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 13, 2017 8:25:04 GMT
I spent 3 or 4 hours in a Police cell in Istanbul once. It was quite unpleasant, particularly as I'd just watched the film 'Midnight Express' a week or so earlier and my mate, who was in the cell with me, insisted making an almighty fuss, rattling the bars and such like. Carry on What ship were you on Ely? I was on Bulwark when we did a visit there after NATO exercise in 1973. Half the stokers mess and load of embarked RMs ended up in police cells night before sailing and we were delayed whilst diplomats sorted it out. |
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Post by elystokie on Mar 13, 2017 9:13:52 GMT
I spent 3 or 4 hours in a Police cell in Istanbul once. It was quite unpleasant, particularly as I'd just watched the film 'Midnight Express' a week or so earlier and my mate, who was in the cell with me, insisted making an almighty fuss, rattling the bars and such like. Carry on :) What ship were you on Ely? I was on Bulwark when we did a visit there after NATO exercise in 1973. Half the stokers mess and load of embarked RMs ended up in police cells night before sailing and we were delayed whilst diplomats sorted it out. On the Fearless at that point LL, be late '82. All the time we were being held at gunpoint, then nicked and held in a cell we had no clue what was going on, we hadn't been fighting or anything, thought it was a case of mistaken identity, none of them spoke English and we certainly didn't speak any Turkish. |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 13, 2017 13:18:03 GMT
What ship were you on Ely? I was on Bulwark when we did a visit there after NATO exercise in 1973. Half the stokers mess and load of embarked RMs ended up in police cells night before sailing and we were delayed whilst diplomats sorted it out. On the Fearless at that point LL, be late '82. All the time we were being held at gunpoint, then nicked and held in a cell we had no clue what was going on, we hadn't been fighting or anything, thought it was a case of mistaken identity, none of them spoke English and we certainly didn't speak any Turkish. Were you on Fearless for Falklands conflict? I spent two days on there after Antelope was sunk. Remember being locked in the tank deck during action stations and hearing bombs exploding close by the ship. Very scary. Fearless was hit by 20mm cannon think it was the MEOs cabin that got trashed. There was also a very officious chief jack dusty who insisted on us signing 126s to get survivors kit issued to us. Never did see the recovery of the cost though. Expect somebody put him in his place. |
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Post by elystokie on Mar 13, 2017 16:09:04 GMT
On the Fearless at that point LL, be late '82. All the time we were being held at gunpoint, then nicked and held in a cell we had no clue what was going on, we hadn't been fighting or anything, thought it was a case of mistaken identity, none of them spoke English and we certainly didn't speak any Turkish. Were you on Fearless for Falklands conflict? I spent two days on there after Antelope was sunk. Remember being locked in the tank deck during action stations and hearing bombs exploding close by the ship. Very scary. Fearless was hit by 20mm cannon think it was the MEOs cabin that got trashed. There was also a very officious chief jack dusty who insisted on us signing 126s to get survivors kit issued to us. Never did see the recovery of the cost though. Expect somebody put him in his place. No LL, we joined it for our sea training after it came back and the crew had been on leave etc. Sounds about right re the jack dusty, ideas well above their station a lot of em, odd good un amongst them but few and far between, like caterers... |
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Post by Dutchpeter on Mar 13, 2017 16:52:41 GMT
On the Fearless at that point LL, be late '82. All the time we were being held at gunpoint, then nicked and held in a cell we had no clue what was going on, we hadn't been fighting or anything, thought it was a case of mistaken identity, none of them spoke English and we certainly didn't speak any Turkish. Were you on Fearless for Falklands conflict? I spent two days on there after Antelope was sunk. Remember being locked in the tank deck during action stations and hearing bombs exploding close by the ship. Very scary. Fearless was hit by 20mm cannon think it was the MEOs cabin that got trashed. There was also a very officious chief jack dusty who insisted on us signing 126s to get survivors kit issued to us. Never did see the recovery of the cost though. Expect somebody put him in his place. Made me laugh out loud about the Chief SA. Didn't he ask for chocolate hobnobs too!? |
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Post by dutchstokie on Mar 15, 2017 23:19:16 GMT
The Dutch media report that 82% of the Dutch public voted today......
It's very early doors but up to now it looks as though Mark Rutte ( VVD - Vereningde Volks Democraten ), United People's Democracy party will stay as first minister.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 31, 2017 11:47:32 GMT
I wonder if this was all arranged by both sides like some political WWF wrestling match... Turkey: We'll call you "Nazis" which nobody will take seriously. Then you don't let one of our Ministers into the Netherlands. Netherlands: Sounds good, can you send out some of your activist goons to smash a few winderz? Then our PM can look like a hardliner, Wilders won't like that. Turkey: Deal. The Dutch government get to flex their muscles ahead of an election. Erdogan gets to show his belligerent streak in public. At the end of it all, Turkey joins what's left of the EU just like Ravishing Rick Rude and Big Boss Man got paid. Interesting. When I google 'Dutch Turkish dispute' seemingly all reports end a couple of days before the Dutch election. No new articles. There are some 'EU/Turkish relations at all time low' historical pieces but nothing new. The same if you google 'Rutte criticises Turkey'. It all ends mid March.  |
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Northern Irish mate of mine, always used to cash more than he ever spent, used to give the remainder to me on the last night in cos he always stayed onboard, I hated it cos I always felt obliged to get his mum a gizzet, on this occasion the only money I had left was what he'd given me, it was 'a bit creased', turns out defacing the currency is an offence 'cos of the Attaturk chappie being on the notes and the taxi driver took offence 
