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Post by Old School Stokie on Mar 5, 2017 17:52:38 GMT
On present up and down form and performances against the top six, I can see only a maximum of four wins through to the rest of the season. As such I think we will struggle to get to 50 Points and hold onto 10th Position!
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Post by PotteringThrough on Mar 5, 2017 19:43:21 GMT
Don't panic mate, we'll be sound.
We'll win some, lose some and draw some and so the cycle goes on. At least we'll get a game at Wembley next season.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 19:50:07 GMT
we are tending to win one in 3- 4 'ish' fixtures
so its easy to work out
ten more games left suggests 2 - maybe three wins and, a couple of draws
35 + 10 maybe 12 more pts = 45 - 47 pts - I reckon
reflecting, not quite as good a season as previously (54 points wasnt it ?)
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Mar 5, 2017 19:56:14 GMT
Our next game, Man City away, is the only game remaining where a victory would be a pleasent surprise. After that our run in is just about as good as you could want. A bunch of teams who're below us in the league, and the only teams we face who're above us we play at home & have beaten them all at home in recent seasons.
I'm hoping for a great end to our campaign.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 19:58:36 GMT
Our next game, Man City away, is the only game remaining where a victory would be a pleasent surprise. After that our run in is just about as good as you could want. A bunch of teams who're below us in the league, and the only teams we face who're above us we play at home & have beaten them all at home in recent seasons. I'm hoping for a great end to our campaign. Yes, Chelsea at home will be a piece of piss!! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 20:00:39 GMT
Our next game, Man City away, is the only game remaining where a victory would be a pleasent surprise. After that our run in is just about as good as you could want. A bunch of teams who're below us in the league, and the only teams we face who're above us we play at home & have beaten them all at home in recent seasons. I'm hoping for a great end to our campaign. Yes, Chelsea at home will be a piece of piss!! We'll get a point from either Citeh or Chelsea. Unsure which |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 20:01:37 GMT
Yes, Chelsea at home will be a piece of piss!! We'll get a point from either Citeh or Chelsea. Unsure which I like your optimism, and I hope you are right. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Mar 5, 2017 20:01:43 GMT
We finish strong so I can see at least 8 wins from now till the end of the season
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Mar 5, 2017 20:04:16 GMT
Our next game, Man City away, is the only game remaining where a victory would be a pleasent surprise. After that our run in is just about as good as you could want. A bunch of teams who're below us in the league, and the only teams we face who're above us we play at home & have beaten them all at home in recent seasons. I'm hoping for a great end to our campaign. We haven't beaten anyone of the teams above us hime or away all season so I'm not sure why we would start now , especially if India is out for a prolonged spell . |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 5, 2017 20:06:14 GMT
Our next game, Man City away, is the only game remaining where a victory would be a pleasent surprise. After that our run in is just about as good as you could want. A bunch of teams who're below us in the league, and the only teams we face who're above us we play at home & have beaten them all at home in recent seasons. I'm hoping for a great end to our campaign. We haven't beaten anyone of the teams above us hime or away all season so I'm not sure why we would start now , especially if India is out for a prolonged spell . Out of what? The commonwealth? |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 5, 2017 20:06:57 GMT
Our next game, Man City away, is the only game remaining where a victory would be a pleasent surprise. After that our run in is just about as good as you could want. A bunch of teams who're below us in the league, and the only teams we face who're above us we play at home & have beaten them all at home in recent seasons. I'm hoping for a great end to our campaign. We haven't beaten anyone of the teams above us hime or away all season so I'm not sure why we would start now , especially if India is out for a prolonged spell . Still reckon we'll struggle to get to 32 points Benji? |
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 5, 2017 20:08:10 GMT
Man City A
Chelsea H
Leicester A
Burnley A
Liverpool H
Hull H
Swansea A
West Ham H
Bournemouth A
Arsenal H
Southampton A
Next 5 games do look very tricky.
Burnley and Leicester are very fiddly , especially when they're surrounded by games against 3 of the top 4.
Burnley have only lost 3 home games all year and Leicester suddenly look reinvigorated. Not inconceivable that we could add maybe just one more point before April 15th?
Hull game stands out as a low-hanging fruit.
West Ham looks reasonably juicy and Bournemouth and Swansea are maybes.
Overall, I think we could end up doing reasonably well to get to 47 or 48, but even that will leave us very comfortable.
But failure to really damage the top half teams isn't unique to us in our current little mini league. We've got 5, West Brom only have 8 points ( 4 v us), Southampton 6 and West Ham 7.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Mar 5, 2017 20:09:19 GMT
We haven't beaten anyone of the teams above us hime or away all season so I'm not sure why we would start now , especially if India is out for a prolonged spell . Out of what? The commonwealth? I was praying he'd switched to Cricket.  |
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Post by Gods on Mar 5, 2017 20:11:09 GMT
The next 5 games are brutal.
Man City and Chelsea followed by 2 very tough away games being Burnley at fortress Turf Moor and a resurgent Leicester and you'd think after that lot we'd have something a bit easier but no it's Liverpool.
After that it eases a bit, I fancy us for 12 more points and so to finish on 48 points, a modest total but a fitting end to a season which rarely got above luke warm.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Mar 5, 2017 20:11:15 GMT
Our next game, Man City away, is the only game remaining where a victory would be a pleasent surprise. After that our run in is just about as good as you could want. A bunch of teams who're below us in the league, and the only teams we face who're above us we play at home & have beaten them all at home in recent seasons. I'm hoping for a great end to our campaign. We haven't beaten anyone of the teams above us hime or away all season so I'm not sure why we would start now , especially if India is out for a prolonged spell . Well we new look like having dog for the rest of the eansos, and times always get unexplored reserves at this test. So why can't week? |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 5, 2017 20:13:58 GMT
We haven't beaten anyone of the teams above us hime or away all season so I'm not sure why we would start now , especially if India is out for a prolonged spell . Well we new look like having dog for the rest of the eansos, and times always get unexplored reserves at this test. So why can't week? You speak fluent Biscuit? |
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Post by WhyDelilah on Mar 5, 2017 20:14:54 GMT
I think 47 or 48.
Next 5 games will see us drop down the table.
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Post by Scrotnig on Mar 5, 2017 20:33:24 GMT
Reckon we'll finish twelfth with 44 or 45. Which will be depressing, but let's face it not nearly as depressing as being Sunderland.
Questions must be asked in the summer as to why we started to go backwards after the Liverpool cup game last season.
In the summer, Hughes needs to either sort it or go.
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Post by steventaaffe on Mar 5, 2017 23:06:29 GMT
46-48 points sadly
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 5, 2017 23:10:12 GMT
We'll get 50+ again.
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 5, 2017 23:23:44 GMT
Let's be positive:
After ManC we don't have to visit any team above us.
We are having a good season against the teams below us; continuing that form we should win 3 and draw 3.
That leaves home games against 3 teams above us. I expect at least 1 victory against the clubs above us this season; we have achieved 4 draws.
That's 15 points; to give us 50 points and another 9th place.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 23:27:42 GMT
Reckon we'll finish twelfth with 44 or 45. Which will be depressing, but let's face it not nearly as depressing as being Sunderland. Questions must be asked in the summer as to why we started to go backwards after the Liverpool cup game last season. In the summer, Hughes needs to either sort it or go. There's a myth surrounding last season which I've seen so many times, that we were basically crap from the end of January (when we played that Liverpool game), but it just isn't true. Our form over the next 9 games would have seen us finish on 58 or 59 points if it had been replicated throughout the season. The real dip was from 10th April by which time, we were without Butland and Johnson, and with Shawcross In the depths of his form loss. No mid table team would have been unaffected by that kind of loss. This season has been a real disappointment, but if we'd had Butland in goal for the season, I honestly think we'd have been on more points than West Brom and sitting pretty in 8th. That's one of those ifs and buts that all teams can point to, but if you're talking about the season being bad enough for Hughes to get the sack, then it's worth considering what the margins are between having a bloody good season and having one that sees the manager being castigated for failure. I get why people are doubting Hughes - I've done a fair bit of it myself. But sometimes, when you take a step back, you realise that as with most things, there are at least two ways of looking at it. |
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Post by hanibal7 on Mar 6, 2017 1:01:23 GMT
Our next game, Man City away, is the only game remaining where a victory would be a pleasent surprise. After that our run in is just about as good as you could want. A bunch of teams who're below us in the league, and the only teams we face who're above us we play at home & have beaten them all at home in recent seasons. I'm hoping for a great end to our campaign. We haven't beaten anyone of the teams above us hime or away all season so I'm not sure why we would start now , especially if India is out for a prolonged spell . Wasnt Watford above usa when we won away |
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Post by PB1863 on Mar 6, 2017 2:29:44 GMT
With 11 games to go I'm thinking we can get 15 points . 15 points will take us to 50 points and should hopefully give us a top half finish.
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Post by Scrotnig on Mar 6, 2017 4:52:12 GMT
Reckon we'll finish twelfth with 44 or 45. Which will be depressing, but let's face it not nearly as depressing as being Sunderland. Questions must be asked in the summer as to why we started to go backwards after the Liverpool cup game last season. In the summer, Hughes needs to either sort it or go. There's a myth surrounding last season which I've seen so many times, that we were basically crap from the end of January (when we played that Liverpool game), but it just isn't true. Our form over the next 9 games would have seen us finish on 58 or 59 points if it had been replicated throughout the season. The real dip was from 10th April by which time, we were without Butland and Johnson, and with Shawcross In the depths of his form loss. No mid table team would have been unaffected by that kind of loss. This season has been a real disappointment, but if we'd had Butland in goal for the season, I honestly think we'd have been on more points than West Brom and sitting pretty in 8th. That's one of those ifs and buts that all teams can point to, but if you're talking about the season being bad enough for Hughes to get the sack, then it's worth considering what the margins are between having a bloody good season and having one that sees the manager being castigated for failure. I get why people are doubting Hughes - I've done a fair bit of it myself. But sometimes, when you take a step back, you realise that as with most things, there are at least two ways of looking at it. We weren't crap from January, but the Liverpool game is arguably where the current "rot" first showed itself. It was the first real evidence of the players either not trying, or not being capable of even competing. In that first leg, we were worse than anyone could really recall during Hughes's time, and it was quite a shock. And from that point, we started to see that same attitude from the players more and more often. I don't believe Jack is the cause, I did think that at first but when Grant turned up and seemed to steady the ship, only for the same attitude to then resurface in certain games, it became clear we had a problem and I now think it is mostly of Hughes's making. As much as I am a huge fan of Hughes, I begin to suspect we have got to the same point we got to under Pulis and he can do no more for us. A change at the end of the season could be the way forward....as much as I say that with great sadness. |
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Post by PB1863 on Mar 6, 2017 5:01:40 GMT
To me the main reason West Brom are doing so well is the form of Ben Foster. He has been outstanding this year and is probably worth at least 6 -9 points. Lee Grant has also saved us points at places like Man U but I'm not sure how many games and points we could put down to him as opposed to keeping the score down as at Spurs the other week. I hope this makes sense
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Post by lordb on Mar 6, 2017 7:15:55 GMT
Don't see why we won't win at Burnley or Leicester.
Next two games is probably two defeats,after that we should expect points.
50 points.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Mar 6, 2017 9:38:28 GMT
Our next game, Man City away, is the only game remaining where a victory would be a pleasent surprise. After that our run in is just about as good as you could want. A bunch of teams who're below us in the league, and the only teams we face who're above us we play at home & have beaten them all at home in recent seasons. I'm hoping for a great end to our campaign. We haven't beaten anyone of the teams above us hime or away all season so I'm not sure why we would start now , especially if India is out for a prolonged spell . more cryptic by the day Benji. |
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Post by raythesailor on Mar 6, 2017 9:51:04 GMT
Agree with the realism being expressed and hope that we should end up with around 48 pts.
The Arsenal fixture could be monumental . I foresee us winning this game, causing the Gunners to narrowly miss out on the top four, and Arsen Whinger as a result announcing his retirement !
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Post by Scrotnig on Mar 6, 2017 10:26:46 GMT
We will not beat Arsenal...forget that one. That's another four goal tonking, on of three we are to suffer imminently.
We might beat Burnley but I predict a draw.
No chance against Leicester now. They are resurgent.
Chelsea and Man City are obviously going to be four goal tonkings, at least.
I'm sorry to sound pessimistic, but the reality we need to face up to is that we really aren't very good at the moment. See Tottenham game for further information.
Also, we are clearly not in danger of relegation so most of the players will give even less of a shit than normal, as often happens to us at the end of a season.
We seem to have a plentitude of players with skill but who often don't give a shit, I think I'd rather have players with less skill but who give more of a shit.
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