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Post by lordb on May 16, 2017 11:12:22 GMT
Today's news the day after he sacked the FBI chap (because he was investigating Trumps dealings with Russia) Trump shared classified information with Russia which he wasn't supposed to do because the source information came from a partner of the US which had not given permission for it to be shared with Russia, says the Washington Post. Quite likely the partner is the UK,this implies that Trump may have compromised UK agents ( i.e put their lives at risk) Question is why did he do this? It also demonstrates how used he is to telling the Russians stuff that he shouldn't. At best he is an absolute idiot
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Post by Mendicant on May 16, 2017 11:23:39 GMT
Today's news the day after he sacked the FBI chap (because he was investigating Trumps dealings with Russia) Trump shared classified information with Russia which he wasn't supposed to do because the source information came from a partner of the US which had not given permission for it to be shared with Russia, says the Washington Post. Quite likely the partner is the UK,this implies that Trump may have compromised UK agents ( i.e put their lives at risk) Question is why did he do this? It also demonstrates how used he is to telling the Russians stuff that he shouldn't. At best he is an absolute idiot lordb, please stop watching the news on telly duck. The Trump sharing information with Russia story is part of desperate smear campaign.
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Post by lordb on May 16, 2017 11:30:20 GMT
Today's news the day after he sacked the FBI chap (because he was investigating Trumps dealings with Russia) Trump shared classified information with Russia which he wasn't supposed to do because the source information came from a partner of the US which had not given permission for it to be shared with Russia, says the Washington Post. Quite likely the partner is the UK,this implies that Trump may have compromised UK agents ( i.e put their lives at risk) Question is why did he do this? It also demonstrates how used he is to telling the Russians stuff that he shouldn't. At best he is an absolute idiot lordb, please stop watching the news on telly duck. The Trump sharing information with Russia story is part of desperate smear campaign. Really? prove it works both ways doesn't it
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 16, 2017 11:45:24 GMT
You can't just accuse someone of something with no proof or evidence whatsoever Still, it helped to divert attention away from the Seth Rich news...
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Post by Mendicant on May 16, 2017 11:52:11 GMT
lordb, please stop watching the news on telly duck. The Trump sharing information with Russia story is part of desperate smear campaign. Really? prove it works both ways doesn't it The proof is the disinformation from mainstream media.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 16, 2017 12:07:05 GMT
I know how conspiracies work! You'll ask for "good" evidence, but you'll never say what counts as "good" and you'll constantly move the goal posts. You'll say something like "why did the school close down" and there's no evidence for that either, but you'll either believe it completely or change the subject whenever evidence is shown though. The heartbroken parents of the murdered children have explained over and over again how their kids were slaughtered and shown family photos of them together before the shootings. Do you think they are all lying? How do you know what I'll say when I see evidence? "The heartbroken parents of murdured children... my heart bleeds. Nobody died at Sandy Hook. Not only was it a false flag but it was a badly done one. But if mainstream media reported it then it must be true, right? Jesus...from the man who believes everything Infowars tells him???? embarrassing mate!
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Post by Mendicant on May 16, 2017 12:19:24 GMT
How do you know what I'll say when I see evidence? "The heartbroken parents of murdured children... my heart bleeds. Nobody died at Sandy Hook. Not only was it a false flag but it was a badly done one. But if mainstream media reported it then it must be true, right? Jesus...from the man who believes everything Infowars tells him???? embarrassing mate! Not embarrassing at all duck. What is embarrassing is that I believed mainstream media for many years. I used to watch Newsnight most nights. I'm a bit embarrassed of that. The world does not work in the way the mainstream would have us believe. Give me the likes of Alex Jones, Adam Curry and Max Keiser over Paxman et al any day. And I wouldn't line a budgie cage with most newspapers. Also, I didn't ask or expect lordb to prove anything.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on May 16, 2017 21:50:24 GMT
Infowars is a joke, and the idiots who believe it are the punchline.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 16, 2017 22:01:07 GMT
Well that's crazy - you think that all of the families with their childhood photos etc are all lying too? Did Obama put them in place 10 years before and then just change his mind and decide he didn't want to take away everyone's guns after it all happened? What do you think about other conspiracies? Do Stanley Kubrick fake the Moon Landing? Are all the scientists lying about global warming? Do vaccines cause autism? Is the Royal Family controlling the world drugs trade? Your reply is a common response from someone disagreeing with a conspiracy theory: to associate that theory with some crackpot theories. It's a false equivalence. Any theory in any subject domain requires evidence. There's evidence to support the hoax theory for Sandy Hook: no record of the victims in social security records, the school closed 4 years before the massacre, paramedics were not given access to the school, photographs of a staged evacuation, victims not named in local media nor appearing in FBI crime statistics. It was a staged drill presented as a real life event. You forgot to mention Elvis riding Shergar on the moon. I must have missed this theory. Is this a genuine concern? No records of the dead people? The school was already closed? Genuine interest.
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Post by Mendicant on May 16, 2017 22:24:56 GMT
Infowars is a joke, and the idiots who believe it are the punchline. Where do you get the news from?
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Post by thedeadlyshart on May 16, 2017 22:37:46 GMT
Infowars is a joke, and the idiots who believe it are the punchline. Where do you get the news from? A variety of sources. PBS, AP, Local station, BBC, internet. I'll even read news "entertainment" sites like infowars and TMZ for shits and giggles, but there's a difference between watching professional wrestling and believing it's real.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on May 16, 2017 22:39:48 GMT
Your reply is a common response from someone disagreeing with a conspiracy theory: to associate that theory with some crackpot theories. It's a false equivalence. Any theory in any subject domain requires evidence. There's evidence to support the hoax theory for Sandy Hook: no record of the victims in social security records, the school closed 4 years before the massacre, paramedics were not given access to the school, photographs of a staged evacuation, victims not named in local media nor appearing in FBI crime statistics. It was a staged drill presented as a real life event. You forgot to mention Elvis riding Shergar on the moon. I must have missed this theory. Is this a genuine concern? No records of the dead people? The school was already closed? Genuine interest. there are plenty of records of those that died. I think the theory is that the democrats staged it to get public support to ban guns.
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Post by Mendicant on May 16, 2017 22:51:26 GMT
Where do you get the news from? A variety of sources. PBS, AP, Local station, BBC, internet. I'll even read news "entertainment" sites like infowars and TMZ for shits and giggles, but there's a difference between watching professional wrestling and believing it's real. Infowars is a serious news platform. Alex Jones will rant to grab attention before he advertises his supplements, a classic shock-jock tactic, but once he's calmed down he gives well-informed insight you won't get on the BBC, and there's less trivia on there than BBC news. His only big mistake, as I see it, was Pizzagate for which he gave his staff too much freedom to report over. Try No Agenda if Infowars doesn't float your boat.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on May 16, 2017 22:55:53 GMT
A variety of sources. PBS, AP, Local station, BBC, internet. I'll even read news "entertainment" sites like infowars and TMZ for shits and giggles, but there's a difference between watching professional wrestling and believing it's real. Infowars is a serious news platform. Alex Jones will rant to grab attention before he advertises his supplements, a classic shock-jock tactic, but once he's calmed down he gives well-informed insight you won't get on the BBC, and there's less trivia on there than BBC news. His only big mistake, as I see it, was Pizzagate for which he gave his staff too much freedom to report over. Try No Agenda if Infowars doesn't float your boat. He's a snake oil salesman, lying like a preacher.
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Post by Mendicant on May 16, 2017 23:23:02 GMT
Infowars is a serious news platform. Alex Jones will rant to grab attention before he advertises his supplements, a classic shock-jock tactic, but once he's calmed down he gives well-informed insight you won't get on the BBC, and there's less trivia on there than BBC news. His only big mistake, as I see it, was Pizzagate for which he gave his staff too much freedom to report over. Try No Agenda if Infowars doesn't float your boat. He's a snake oil salesman, lying like a preacher. He probably does sell snake oil, literally, or at least a powder. I wouldn't dismiss in those terms though - he isn't fake if you'll allow his dramatic rants, and certainly not a liar as I see it. Anyway how can he be bad when he supports Trump?
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Post by chigstoke on May 17, 2017 9:02:26 GMT
Infowars is a joke, and the idiots who believe it are the punchline. I fucking love Alex Jones, even for stuff like this -
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 17, 2017 12:17:19 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on May 17, 2017 12:24:20 GMT
keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
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Post by lordb on May 17, 2017 12:36:07 GMT
Impeachment or assassination?
resignation (can't see that one)
or will he see out his four years?
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Post by Mendicant on May 17, 2017 12:39:08 GMT
Your reply is a common response from someone disagreeing with a conspiracy theory: to associate that theory with some crackpot theories. It's a false equivalence. Any theory in any subject domain requires evidence. There's evidence to support the hoax theory for Sandy Hook: no record of the victims in social security records, the school closed 4 years before the massacre, paramedics were not given access to the school, photographs of a staged evacuation, victims not named in local media nor appearing in FBI crime statistics. It was a staged drill presented as a real life event. You forgot to mention Elvis riding Shergar on the moon. I must have missed this theory. Is this a genuine concern? No records of the dead people? The school was already closed? Genuine interest. There's a retired professor of Science from a University of Minnesota called Jim Fetzer who has researched it in a lot of detail. There's plenty on YouTube from him. On Sandy Hook and the Boston Bombing he seems reliable. On other conspiracy theories outside the US he's not as convincing. As a word of caution: he's questioned some aspects of the holocaust - which was a bit cavalier and out of order for something so serious. However on Sandy Hook he reveals it as a hoax. For him to be wrong he'd have to be bull shitting outright and fabricating evidence. Then there's Alex Jones supporting the hoax theory too.
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Post by Gods on May 17, 2017 12:42:34 GMT
The Washington Post reckons things may be starting to unravel. Trump’s presidency is beginning to unravelI hope so, best case he seems like a real nasty and uncaring piece of work, worst case he is a dangerous loon. Could do with this clown gone 'quick-smart' as they say state side.
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Post by chuffedstokie on May 17, 2017 13:27:42 GMT
The Washington Post reckons things may be starting to unravel. Trump’s presidency is beginning to unravelI hope so, best case he seems like a real nasty and uncaring piece of work, worst case he is a dangerous loon. Could do with this clown gone 'quick-smart' as they say state side. Just caught latest lunchtime news. Not looking particularly rosy for him at best.
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Post by bathstoke on May 17, 2017 16:23:05 GMT
Impeachment or assassination? resignation (can't see that one) or will he see out his four years? The Snowflakes just been on telly, saying "No president has been treated as harshly as him!" Think Lincoln & Kennedy might have something to say on that
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on May 17, 2017 20:27:43 GMT
I must have missed this theory. Is this a genuine concern? No records of the dead people? The school was already closed? Genuine interest. There's a retired professor of Science from a University of Minnesota called Jim Fetzer who has researched it in a lot of detail. There's plenty on YouTube from him. On Sandy Hook and the Boston Bombing he seems reliable. On other conspiracy theories outside the US he's not as convincing. As a word of caution: he's questioned some aspects of the holocaust - which was a bit cavalier and out of order for something so serious. However on Sandy Hook he reveals it as a hoax. For him to be wrong he'd have to be bull shitting outright and fabricating evidence. Then there's Alex Jones supporting the hoax theory too. "He's a professor of Science"? A professor of science? There is such a thing? What's he do, split an atom one week and cure cancer another week? Clever guy!
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on May 17, 2017 20:46:34 GMT
I must have missed this theory. Is this a genuine concern? No records of the dead people? The school was already closed? Genuine interest. There's a retired professor of Science from a University of Minnesota called Jim Fetzer who has researched it in a lot of detail. There's plenty on YouTube from him. On Sandy Hook and the Boston Bombing he seems reliable. On other conspiracy theories outside the US he's not as convincing. As a word of caution: he's questioned some aspects of the holocaust - which was a bit cavalier and out of order for something so serious. However on Sandy Hook he reveals it as a hoax. For him to be wrong he'd have to be bull shitting outright and fabricating evidence. Then there's Alex Jones supporting the hoax theory too. I always thought "a bit cavalier" would be something like turning up to your mother-in-law's house and asking her what is her favourite dildo.
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Post by Mendicant on May 17, 2017 21:27:46 GMT
There's a retired professor of Science from a University of Minnesota called Jim Fetzer who has researched it in a lot of detail. There's plenty on YouTube from him. On Sandy Hook and the Boston Bombing he seems reliable. On other conspiracy theories outside the US he's not as convincing. As a word of caution: he's questioned some aspects of the holocaust - which was a bit cavalier and out of order for something so serious. However on Sandy Hook he reveals it as a hoax. For him to be wrong he'd have to be bull shitting outright and fabricating evidence. Then there's Alex Jones supporting the hoax theory too. "He's a professor of Science"? A professor of science? There is such a thing? What's he do, split an atom one week and cure cancer another week? Clever guy! Yes that's it ah. EDIT: I've checked his full title, it's Professor Emeritus of the philosophy of science at the University of Minnesota Duluth. The 2012 Nobel prize winner in Chemistry graduated from there. So yes like you imply, all very Mickey Mouse.
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Post by Mendicant on May 17, 2017 21:29:43 GMT
There's a retired professor of Science from a University of Minnesota called Jim Fetzer who has researched it in a lot of detail. There's plenty on YouTube from him. On Sandy Hook and the Boston Bombing he seems reliable. On other conspiracy theories outside the US he's not as convincing. As a word of caution: he's questioned some aspects of the holocaust - which was a bit cavalier and out of order for something so serious. However on Sandy Hook he reveals it as a hoax. For him to be wrong he'd have to be bull shitting outright and fabricating evidence. Then there's Alex Jones supporting the hoax theory too. I always thought "a bit cavalier" would be something like turning up to your mother-in-law's house and asking her what is her favourite dildo. A bit cavalier is if she replies "you".
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Post by Gods on May 17, 2017 22:00:20 GMT
The man is a cunt, it's as plain as the nose on your face, quite why anyone is bothering with these convoluted and nonsensical defences other than that they like an argument I have no idea.
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Post by Mendicant on May 17, 2017 22:03:51 GMT
The man is a cunt, it's as plain as the nose on your face, quite why anyone is bothering with thede convoluted and nonsensical defences other than that they like an argument I have no idea. What difference does it make if he is a cunt? He's a democratically elected cunt.
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Post by Gods on May 17, 2017 23:08:40 GMT
The man is a cunt, it's as plain as the nose on your face, quite why anyone is bothering with thede convoluted and nonsensical defences other than that they like an argument I have no idea. What difference does it make if he is a cunt? He's a democratically elected cunt. You sound like the Brexit police who think people should stop making the argument just because we lost the vote.
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