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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 19, 2018 11:12:45 GMT
I have said this before, and most of it is directed at the Tories and anyone to the right. There is a sneering, scoffing attitude in general,though and a lack of respect. Faisal Islam is terrible for it as well. There is a real lack of impartiality at the moment. At least Andrew Neil slaughters everyone. I don't identify with any major UK political party as I tend to look at each issue on its own rather than just going with whatever my "wing" does. As such I'd call myself a centrist. I have some very liberal beliefs and some very conservative beliefs. I'm far more cautious / anxious about discussing my conservative beliefs with left-wing friends than I am about discussing my liberal beliefs with right-wing friends. I know from experience where the nastier, more aggressive and sneering folk tend to sit. I think you are spot on. I have had the same experience.
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Post by prettything on Nov 19, 2018 11:58:52 GMT
We’re talking about a country that went to war with itself over slavery. Racism is intrinsic to American culture. South Africa copied apartheidism from America. Talking about who commits more crimes is irrelevant. White people commit more white collar crime, so lets stop them dealing in 💰 It is absolutely not irrelevant to anyone who has even the slightest interest in stopping crime at all. To stop it, you need to understand who is committing it, and why they are committing it. Tackling the causes of crime at the source is by far the most effective tool in solving the issues before they arise in the first place. You are intelligent enough to understand this, and it is a very left-wing perspective, so it's not something I'd expect you to rail against. However, it's also a very childish jump in logic to say "Black people commit crime because of racism". You're jumping about ten steps there, steps I've briefly tried to elaborate upon, but you've dismissed them as irrelevant. Your argument seems to be saying that because many people freely use the n-word, that the natural response would be to join a gang, sell crack and shoot each other with stolen, illegally possessed pistols. Historic racism maybe intrinsic to explaining the impoverished neighbourhoods that discourage social mobility, but does nothing to explain why other ethnically marginalised groups such as the Native Americans, Koreans, Irish, Italians etc flourish by relative comparison nd don't typically have problems with gangs to the same scale. Before you reply with "slavery", please explain, specifically, how slavery causes gangs. Remember that correlation does not equal causation. I would be amazed if you could explain that to a satisfactory level because I believe the issue is completely separate to slavery, and that slavery does not adequately explain why black gangs are a problem all over the world. Black on black violence is an endemic crisis in America and refusing to admit this is passively granting consent to it. Native Americans don’t thrive, they have one of the biggest suicide rates in the country. Koreans work in the service sector predominantly. The Irish and Italians didn’t start life in America successful.With both involved in organised crime. Both these groups have one advantage, though. They aren’t black . If your serious about wanting to increase your levels of understanding about this subject, read “Politics of Racial inequality “ by j Owens .
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Nov 19, 2018 12:07:52 GMT
It is absolutely not irrelevant to anyone who has even the slightest interest in stopping crime at all. To stop it, you need to understand who is committing it, and why they are committing it. Tackling the causes of crime at the source is by far the most effective tool in solving the issues before they arise in the first place. You are intelligent enough to understand this, and it is a very left-wing perspective, so it's not something I'd expect you to rail against. However, it's also a very childish jump in logic to say "Black people commit crime because of racism". You're jumping about ten steps there, steps I've briefly tried to elaborate upon, but you've dismissed them as irrelevant. Your argument seems to be saying that because many people freely use the n-word, that the natural response would be to join a gang, sell crack and shoot each other with stolen, illegally possessed pistols. Historic racism maybe intrinsic to explaining the impoverished neighbourhoods that discourage social mobility, but does nothing to explain why other ethnically marginalised groups such as the Native Americans, Koreans, Irish, Italians etc flourish by relative comparison nd don't typically have problems with gangs to the same scale. Before you reply with "slavery", please explain, specifically, how slavery causes gangs. Remember that correlation does not equal causation. I would be amazed if you could explain that to a satisfactory level because I believe the issue is completely separate to slavery, and that slavery does not adequately explain why black gangs are a problem all over the world. Black on black violence is an endemic crisis in America and refusing to admit this is passively granting consent to it. Native Americans don’t thrive, they have one of the biggest suicide rates in the country. Koreans work in the service sector predominantly. The Irish and Italians didn’t start life in America successful.With both involved in organised crime. Both these groups have one advantage, though. They aren’t black . If your serious about wanting to increase your levels of understanding about this subject, read “Politics of Racial inequality “ by j Owens . "In relative terms" to black communites, Native Americans do not engage in the endemic levels of violent and drug related crime. Regarding Koreans, the industry is irrelevant, employment rates are comparitively high and crime levels low. Regarding Italians and the Irish, I'm fully aware of that, hence my reference to it as a comparison for crime rates versus black communities, the Irish and Italians managed to grow out of it despite initial marginalisation whereas the black community are yet to experience a similar "enlightenment". Thank you for the book recommendation, although you've not really made any convincing counter-point, so if that's the basis of your understanding towards the issue I'll probably give it a miss.
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Post by felonious on Nov 19, 2018 12:34:49 GMT
I've made no comment on the subject matter so don't attribute any comments to me thank you very much. The subject I was talking about which you very well NO is the lazy use on here of the racist jibe. I thought it might of been the lazy use of the word "know" It's that barstard Barth screwing my spelling up
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Post by prettything on Nov 19, 2018 14:27:48 GMT
Native Americans don’t thrive, they have one of the biggest suicide rates in the country. Koreans work in the service sector predominantly. The Irish and Italians didn’t start life in America successful.With both involved in organised crime. Both these groups have one advantage, though. They aren’t black . If your serious about wanting to increase your levels of understanding about this subject, read “Politics of Racial inequality “ by j Owens . "In relative terms" to black communites, Native Americans do not engage in the endemic levels of violent and drug related crime. Regarding Koreans, the industry is irrelevant, employment rates are comparitively high and crime levels low. Regarding Italians and the Irish, I'm fully aware of that, hence my reference to it as a comparison for crime rates versus black communities, the Irish and Italians managed to grow out of it despite initial marginalisation whereas the black community are yet to experience a similar "enlightenment". Thank you for the book recommendation, although you've not really made any convincing counter-point, so if that's the basis of your understanding towards the issue I'll probably give it a miss. It’s your loss. I highly recommend it. It will inform you and answer the questions you need to know. For example, Native Americans tend to live in more rural areas compared to the highly built up, impoverished urban areas compared to African Americans . There are a lot sociological reasons compared to the socio economic reasons that are readily available for you to research.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Nov 19, 2018 14:29:27 GMT
How do you rake an entire forest??
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Nov 19, 2018 17:42:45 GMT
How do you rake an entire forest?? Like this...
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 20, 2018 8:10:27 GMT
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Nov 20, 2018 12:21:03 GMT
Good, she's now qualified to run for president.
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Post by adi on Nov 21, 2018 18:10:13 GMT
I’m not surprised by your comments Fel. If America don’t like the crime stats of a certain demographic, perhaps they should have left them in Africa. As I said, Admin, sort these racist/ignorant mother £@#&ers out... Seeing that there's no winky, you're losing the argument and the plot Bath. 🤭 bathstoke 🤫
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Post by adi on Nov 21, 2018 18:11:37 GMT
Glad to see the unsubstantiated and incorrect posts deleted. Thank you Admin for the correct course of action, we can’t have ignorant people being allowed to run amok. Bravo 👏
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 21, 2018 18:13:47 GMT
Glad to see the unsubstantiated and incorrect posts deleted. Thank you Admin for the correct course of action, we can’t have ignorant people being allowed to run amok. Bravo 👏 Eh?
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Post by adi on Nov 21, 2018 18:16:28 GMT
Glad to see the unsubstantiated and incorrect posts deleted. Thank you Admin for the correct course of action, we can’t have ignorant people being allowed to run amok. Bravo 👏 Eh? Accused of racism, posts now deleted by Admin. Shame the ignorant individual responsible for them wasn’t banned to stop him/her from peddling more shit but you can’t win them all.
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Post by adi on Nov 21, 2018 18:18:24 GMT
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 21, 2018 18:19:18 GMT
Accused of racism, posts now deleted by Admin. Shame the ignorant individual responsible for them wasn’t banned to stop him/her from peddling more shit but you can’t win them all. Oh, I get you, now. It's been a long day!
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Post by adi on Nov 21, 2018 18:20:11 GMT
Accused of racism, posts now deleted by Admin. Shame the ignorant individual responsible for them wasn’t banned to stop him/her from peddling more shit but you can’t win them all. Oh, I get you, now. It's been a long day! Haha tell me about it! I spent hours colouring in a spreadsheet so it’s easier for my bosses to understand.....
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Nov 21, 2018 18:23:25 GMT
I won't go as far as saying I respect him for his position, but at least he's doing what the US would have done anyway, only he's doing it openly.
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Post by adi on Nov 21, 2018 18:27:46 GMT
I won't go as far as saying I respect him for his position, but at least he's doing what the US would have done anyway, only he's doing it openly. I was almost hoping to see a rant of “FAKE NEWS!” 😂 I do find him extremely entertaining, but it is crazy that he’s president. I was watching the series on Netflix about his ride and it was almost written in the stars. Tweeted about oil prices being low followed by a tweet of “MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” It’s absoluteky crazy 😂
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 21, 2018 18:35:27 GMT
Me I’m sitting back and throughly enjoying the shit show
Trump and America a perfect match made in heaven
A country will always get its rich deserts in the end
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 21, 2018 18:36:24 GMT
I won't go as far as saying I respect him for his position, but at least he's doing what the US would have done anyway, only he's doing it openly. I was almost hoping to see a rant of “FAKE NEWS!” 😂 I do find him extremely entertaining, but it is crazy that he’s president. I was watching the series on Netflix about his ride and it was almost written in the stars. Tweeted about oil prices being low followed by a tweet of “MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” It’s absoluteky crazy 😂 I might watch that tonight. I quite like The Donald, but it is quite bizarre that he's the big cheese!
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Post by adi on Nov 21, 2018 18:37:52 GMT
I was almost hoping to see a rant of “FAKE NEWS!” 😂 I do find him extremely entertaining, but it is crazy that he’s president. I was watching the series on Netflix about his ride and it was almost written in the stars. Tweeted about oil prices being low followed by a tweet of “MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” It’s absoluteky crazy 😂 I might watch that tonight. I quite like The Donald, but it is quite bizarre that he's the big cheese! He asked for big tax breaks, got big tax breaks. Baller 🤑
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Post by adi on Nov 21, 2018 19:32:22 GMT
Me I’m sitting back and throughly enjoying the shit show Trump and America a perfect match made in heaven A country will always get its rich deserts in the end Will be interesting to see it unfold
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Nov 21, 2018 19:44:22 GMT
Apart from his protectionism he's turning out to be a good president.
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Post by felonious on Nov 21, 2018 20:55:56 GMT
Me I’m sitting back and throughly enjoying the shit show Trump and America a perfect match made in heaven A country will always get its rich deserts in the end You might be right with their tremendous growth rates they will be getting richer.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Nov 21, 2018 21:12:12 GMT
Me I’m sitting back and throughly enjoying the shit show Trump and America a perfect match made in heaven A country will always get its rich deserts in the end You might be right with their tremendous growth rates they will be getting richer. We should start denying climate change to get rid of the red tape that's stopping Britain being great again too.
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Post by adi on Nov 22, 2018 21:33:55 GMT
You might be right with their tremendous growth rates they will be getting richer. We should start denying climate change to get rid of the red tape that's stopping Britain being great again too. Return of smog!
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 24, 2018 13:20:51 GMT
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Feb 19, 2019 15:49:48 GMT
77 year old socialist Bernie Sanders announces he's running in the 2020 campaign.
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Post by lordb on Feb 19, 2019 16:19:47 GMT
77 year old socialist Bernie Sanders announces he's running in the 2020 campaign. Old news
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Feb 19, 2019 17:38:52 GMT
77 year old socialist Bernie Sanders announces he's running in the 2020 campaign. Old news That's a bit of a harsh description of him. That said, he'll be 79 when he watches the next inauguration in 2021 from his care home.
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