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Post by mrcoke on Feb 25, 2017 15:51:22 GMT
Don't worry too much about what Trump will do. The President is not a dictator, even when a policy has popular support. One of Obama's first actions 8 years ago was to sign a paper to start the process to get rid of Guantanamo Bay; it's still there!
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Post by StatesideStokie on Feb 25, 2017 20:49:47 GMT
Trump looks like a man who knows that impeachment is coming. The tangled web of collusion with the Russians is starting to unravel, and he knows it.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Feb 25, 2017 20:56:18 GMT
He's going to show those rednecks that voted for him what a global elite is alright. Him, Putin and global oil. He's going to fill that swamp with more shit than they could ever imagine. Just give him time. That's the truth. Hard to believe so many have fallen for his "man of the people" bullshit. Kind of ironic that the only people who are going to be hit harder than undocumented immigrants are those rural and blue collar communities that voted this fool into power. He's going to fuck them over so hard they'll be begging for a free ride over that wall they want him to build for a better life in Mexico.
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Post by Gods on Feb 25, 2017 23:45:01 GMT
The story of the week is Trump, Russia and the FBI. The rest is a distraction. The White House reportedly tried to influence an active counter-intelligence investigation. All else, press ban included, is designed to deflect attention StoryOfTheWeek
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Post by Gods on Feb 25, 2017 23:49:35 GMT
Don't worry too much about what Trump will do. The President is not a dictator, even when a policy has popular support. One of Obama's first actions 8 years ago was to sign a paper to start the process to get rid of Guantanamo Bay; it's still there! For some reason I am taking little comfort from this flippant contribution, 'don't worry too much', you only just stopped short of saying 'he's a good lad really'
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Post by mrcoke on Feb 26, 2017 10:10:37 GMT
Don't worry too much about what Trump will do. The President is not a dictator, even when a policy has popular support. One of Obama's first actions 8 years ago was to sign a paper to start the process to get rid of Guantanamo Bay; it's still there! For some reason I am taking little comfort from this flippant contribution, 'don't worry too much', you only just stopped short of saying 'he's a good lad really' Not saying that at all, he is clearly a loose cannon, although I do have a sneaky regard for the fact he is clearly out to bloody the nose of most of the political establishment and make them start to look after the American people and not just themselves. I do think he has a very racist view on who "the people" are. What I'm saying is the American constitution prevents any individual group/person taking control, whether they are the executive lead by the president, the judges, the 2 houses of Congress, and of course the written American constitution itself, which all there to specifically restrain any body taking control.
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Post by capto on Feb 26, 2017 18:39:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 19:58:20 GMT
It's quite sad that farage having lunch with trump is news. They have probably eaten together many times.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 20:11:55 GMT
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 26, 2017 20:19:27 GMT
It has become the the tail of a Shakespearian tragedy
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 26, 2017 22:07:21 GMT
Trump looks like a man who knows that impeachment is coming. The tangled web of collusion with the Russians is starting to unravel, and he knows it. I don't think it'll happen. It needs enough Republicans to agree that things like democracy and the law are important. Sessions won't recuse himself, Preibus is interfere with the FBI investigation and Trump spends his time installing oil and banking puppets and attacking everything that helps prevent dictatorships like the media, education, judges and voting rights. It looks like the Republicans are willing to let him do what he wants so long as they get to take away people's voting rights and remove anything that inconveniences the oil industry.
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 26, 2017 22:21:28 GMT
Markets should do great, it's gonna be a brilliant 4 years for the richest of the rich. The "anti-establishment" line is a reet fucking laugh. A Goldman Sachs banker, the head of ExxonMobil and and Scott fucking Pruitt who lots of people say that he's got a special pair of branded kneepads for each oil company. The average murican stands to benefit from the tax proposals and protectionist economic policy. The globalist elite don't want borders as it lessens their operating costs. He's sticking two fingers up them and as far as I can see americans stand to benefit as a result. I can't see how though. Which of his tax proposals do you think will really help most Americans? What about healthcare? How many jobs do you think protectionism will make and in which industries? Will no Americans get hurt by his policies? If he's so into the needs of poor Americans, then why is he filling his cabinet with the richest of the rich and oil company stooges? Trump talks a good game but his entire life has been about being conning people, mostly desperate Americans. Look at the Trump University scam; thousands of Americans tricked by his lies, including people who died waiting while Trump's lawyers delayed to get the fraud settlement cut. Or his "trade secrets" of tricking vulnerable elderly people into giving over their property when they die. Or his "charity" which pays for his lawsuits. He's a compulsive liar and fraud and the only thing he's ever done is try to get more money and power for the Trumps. Why does anyone really believe he's suddenly decided he's doing everything for ordinary Americans?
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 26, 2017 22:25:35 GMT
Frightening. I hope he's surrounded by people who actually know what they're doing and all these people he's appointed are just loud mouth figureheads. They know exactly what they're doing. Scott Pruitt's job is to take oil company letters, then add his signature and a big government stamp. Let's say you're a homeowner in Oklahoma and your house gets wrecked by an earthquake caused by an oil company pumping fracking water too hard into the rocks nearby. Your insurance doesn't cover it but you think the oil company should pay for wrecking your house? Under Trump's administration: fuck you. Your child dies from water poisoned by a coal company? Fuck you. Ex-coal miner who wasn't properly protected while working and now you've got black lung? Fuck you. Miami Beach taxpayers are having to pay $500 million to protect against rising seas from global warming; now it floods under clear skies at high tide. The coal and oil companies should pay for this, but they won't because fuck you. And what's more, the Trump administration is going to lie to you about the cause the whole time and smear scientists who try to explain.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Feb 26, 2017 23:10:03 GMT
Trump looks like a man who knows that impeachment is coming. The tangled web of collusion with the Russians is starting to unravel, and he knows it. I don't think it'll happen. It needs enough Republicans to agree that things like democracy and the law are important. Sessions won't recuse himself, Preibus is interfere with the FBI investigation and Trump spends his time installing oil and banking puppets and attacking everything that helps prevent dictatorships like the media, education, judges and voting rights. It looks like the Republicans are willing to let him do what he wants so long as they get to take away people's voting rights and remove anything that inconveniences the oil industry. It's likely to be the interferance of people like Preibus that get him impeached. There is complete chaos within the administration and somebody is eventually going to drop a bollock of epic proportions. They've gone to war with the media and the intelligence community - that's never going to end well. it's just a matter of time before the whole house of cards comes tumbling down.
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 26, 2017 23:42:59 GMT
I don't think it'll happen. It needs enough Republicans to agree that things like democracy and the law are important. Sessions won't recuse himself, Preibus is interfere with the FBI investigation and Trump spends his time installing oil and banking puppets and attacking everything that helps prevent dictatorships like the media, education, judges and voting rights. It looks like the Republicans are willing to let him do what he wants so long as they get to take away people's voting rights and remove anything that inconveniences the oil industry. It's likely to be the interferance of people like Preibus that get him impeached. There is complete chaos within the administration and somebody is eventually going to drop a bollock of epic proportions. They've gone to war with the media and the intelligence community - that's never going to end well. it's just a matter of time before the whole house of cards comes tumbling down. I'm not sure. Gingrich has said that Trump can just pardon allies who break the law and Ryan's said they aren't interested in investigating Trump's treason or corruption. The way I see it, voter suppression needs federal support and the Republicans need voter suppression or they'll get crushed. Trump lost by 3 million to Hillary fucking Clinton, imagine the result without Republican voter suppression! This is the Republican's last chance to guarantee long-term rule under the law, otherwise they'd have to change their policies to win more voters. So far it looks like they're going for appeasing Trump to get the laws they want. The history of autocrats suggests that first they'll stay united to crush democratic opposition, and only then will there be a fight where either Trump purges the party or he gets kicked out.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Feb 27, 2017 10:09:01 GMT
Trump was elected by the 'little people'.
The people whose voice is never heard.
The people that want somebody to speak up for them.
The people that Trump has been shafting all his life.
It always makes me laugh when people use financial markets to demonstrate Trumps 'success'.
Of course these markets are going to rise with Trumps election. They know that company profits will rise as a result of wages & conditions of employment falling.
Legislation imposed on financial systems after the 2008 crash are already being dismantled. Of course the US banking system will react favourably to this.
Trump has surrounded himself with billionaires who know as much about the life of 'little' people as...Donald Trump.
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Post by auntiegeorge on Feb 27, 2017 11:36:11 GMT
Take away your clear bias against Trump and what do you have left for an argument? The election was lost by Crooked Hillary as much as it was won by Trump. You seem to be in denial about the political revolution sweeping the west. By the end of 2017 the world will look a very different place.
If you don't want to be left behind like the little people invest some of your money into American based funds like I've been doing in the last 5 years. Be smart, don't bear grudges.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Feb 28, 2017 19:18:44 GMT
Take away your clear bias against Trump and what do you have left for an argument? The election was lost by Crooked Hillary as much as it was won by Trump. You seem to be in denial about the political revolution sweeping the west. By the end of 2017 the world will look a very different place. If you don't want to be left behind like the little people invest some of your money into American based funds like I've been doing in the last 5 years. Be smart, don't bear grudges. I thought the revolution was for the little people? Who's leaving them behind?
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Post by dutchstokie on Mar 1, 2017 0:19:58 GMT
He's giving his first major speech in a couple of hours....... I wonder what made up bollocks he'll come up with this time?
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 1, 2017 4:08:04 GMT
Trump was elected by the 'little people'. This storyline ignores that Trump got crushed among the "little people" on less than £40k/year. He won the rich.
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 1, 2017 4:11:34 GMT
Take away your clear bias against Trump and what do you have left for an argument? I'm interested in why anyone would support him based on his policies overall. What's he actually done that you like? Which specific bits of his policies are good? Is there anything he's said or done that you dislike? The election was lost by Crooked Hillary as much as it was won by Trump. Lots of people are saying that Trump only won because of Russian hacking, the FBI's illegal public involvement just before the election and Republican voter suppression tactics that have prevented hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, of legitimate voters from casting their ballots. He needed all 3 of those things and he still lost by 3 million votes. If you don't want to be left behind like the little people invest some of your money into American based funds like I've been doing in the last 5 years. If you've got a few hundred thousand free to invest then I agree that Trump's probably gonna be pretty good for you.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 1, 2017 8:00:37 GMT
You mean the CPAC event? I have to say that while I am generally a Trump supporter he looked like a corpse arisen from the dead compared to Nigel Farage who set the place ablaze with his oratory - sadly to a somewhat smaller audience. Farage is not only the most successful politician and greatest orator of our generation, he is a true prophet. I'm beginning to have doubts about Trump myself. But I'm willing to give him more time since he is still in his "honeymoon" phase. True prophet!?! He's a false prophet & a charlatan False prophet? Rubbish! Look at all the real profits he's made being a M.E.P. for years and now on a contract with Fox News(owned by Rupert Murdoch)! No wonder he can afford a young French fancy woman?
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Post by auntiegeorge on Mar 1, 2017 19:31:05 GMT
Two words nick:
Tony Blair
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 2, 2017 21:29:04 GMT
Two words nick: Tony Blair But you've put Farage on a pedestal! A lot of us aren't convinced! Thousands at Brigend losing their jobs over Brexit. Won't be long before the cynics are in a massive majority!
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 3, 2017 18:51:59 GMT
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 3, 2017 22:00:07 GMT
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 3, 2017 22:20:15 GMT
Yes.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 3, 2017 22:21:18 GMT
Or....
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 3, 2017 22:24:13 GMT
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Post by Northy on Mar 23, 2017 7:58:41 GMT
After yesterday's incident in London, I wonder if Trump will now ban cars in America
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