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Post by GoBoks on Jan 17, 2017 21:32:26 GMT
Tom Daley, Jacques Cousteau and Johnny Weissmuller are the judging standard With Len Goodman giving marks for heel leads and artistic presentation. How do I give 2 thumbs up?
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 18, 2017 8:42:34 GMT
Agree. I still think that even though it's difficult, it needs to be implemented. Perhaps "benefit of the doubt" type logic. It's not really that much different to red card appeals. The panel look at the video and make a decision. One "improvement" I'd make to the rule is to have "cheating" as a red card offence. What's the point of retrospectively banning a player for 2 games for a sneaky dive when the resulting penalty costs the opponents the game? I think that each captain should be given 1 right of appeal where at a break in play, they can request the referee and assistants to review an egregious incident. (Cheating, uncaught handball, goal disallowed for offside, etc.) Ultra-difficult to implement, but in my opinion it would go a long way to eradicating cheating. But hey, I also think that a player should be given a yellow for any cheating including trying to get another player sent off, claiming a throw-in is your ball when you clearly know it's not, etc etc. Not sure your ideas are pratical but I wholeheartedly agree with the spirit of your post. Cheating is endemic in the game, as you point out claiming throw-ins, influencing the ref, shirt pulling, happen continuously as well as more high profile acts like diving, over-reacting to get players sent off. Referees get a lot of stick but many decisions they are asked to make are judgements about intent etc - very difficult when pundits, referees can't agree often even with endless repeats of the action from different camera angles.A change in the mindset of the people who play the game is needed but don't hold your breath. Totally agree. I can live with checking whether a ball was in or out in tennis; you get a definitive answer and it take a few seconds, and the game is a stop/start type of game. The reviewing of incidents in rugby such as high tackle, or whether a ball was grounded for a try, or whether there was a reason not to give a try, have ruined international rugby. There are long delays in the play and often still no clarification of what actually happened and even sometimes a wrong decision in the expert commentators opinion.
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Post by safcforever on Jan 18, 2017 12:56:22 GMT
I agree it needs something but this isn't the right action for 2 reasons.
1, referees will be in fear of making a mistake so will leave it to be reviewed after the match. So he will award the penalty or the red card etc. and if it was wrong the process will take care of it. Even though your team got beat 3-0
2, a lot more players will get injured. Sometimes the player dives to avoid the foul. If they get retrospective action for diving away from a foul then they decision is either get injured or get suspended
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Post by onlyonesirstan on Jan 18, 2017 13:03:07 GMT
Do what they do n NFL, stop the clock and review whether it's a dive etc. It may extend the game but at least the fans will feel less aggrieved. Works in NFL and Rugby League
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Post by enuntio on Jan 18, 2017 14:14:05 GMT
How about reviewing the "theatrics" in respect to those dirty cheating scoundrels that pretend that they have just been on the receiving end of an "Iron Man" Mike Tyson left hook, when the reality is usually that they've had their nipple caressed
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Jan 18, 2017 16:27:21 GMT
Definitely a good idea. We all know that there will be controversy with how it's implemented but anything that might make a player think twice about diving will be a good thing.
We have a few divers in our own team like Shaqiri, Walters, Bojan and Pieters who will have to buck their ideas up if this came in.
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Post by safcforever on Jan 18, 2017 18:02:39 GMT
Will players from the top clubs get treated the same has players who don't play for the top clubs? Ali will be a week on week off player
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Post by stokiejoe on Jan 18, 2017 18:21:50 GMT
I've always thought there should be retrospective yellow cards for diving as it's only a yellow card offence, if a player had received a yellow card in the match for another offence then that would in turn then be a red card. Gouranga. I agree with you but I would also want the right to appeal against a yellow card as ref may get it wrong at the time. Would impose a one match ban for silly appeals
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Post by madasasnake on Jan 18, 2017 19:12:05 GMT
I agree with much of what has been said already.
The spirit of the anticipated rule change is excellent but I worry that we know how it would be implemented in practice; yet another rule change only trialled at Stoke City?
But the original posted link also contained another excellent idea; namely, that only the Captain can speak to the referee. I would very much welcome that change and it's one that even with big club bias I can't see that we would fall foul of.
It would stop the continual haranguing of referees by the entire Arsenal squad whilst the opposition sought to assist and comfort their injured player!
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Post by kustokie on Jan 19, 2017 3:01:35 GMT
Any player banned for cheating,should have their wages stopped for the length of the ban,why should they keep getting paid for been cheating scum. I always assumed that's how it worked. If it doesn't, it should.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 19, 2017 3:09:10 GMT
On Mondays all the footballers who have dived at the weekend should be rounded up like cattle and shot like pigs.
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