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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jan 10, 2017 10:03:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 10:07:08 GMT
Monkeys, give, a don't!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 10:08:36 GMT
Makes a complete mockery of the qualifying stages. Shit idea
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Post by cheadlepotter on Jan 10, 2017 10:14:41 GMT
Any word on how the three pots of 16 for the draw will be made? Presumably it's the top 16 teams and the rest being split by continent? Until I read the finer details I'm not a fan so far, in the same way that I'm not a fan of the Euro expansion.
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Post by cousindupree on Jan 10, 2017 10:22:13 GMT
This is very bad news for England. A chance of a bigger humiliation than losing to Iceland when we get drawn in the same group as Burkina Faso
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jan 10, 2017 10:22:59 GMT
Any word on how the three pots of 16 for the draw will be made? Presumably it's the top 16 teams and the rest being split by continent? Until I read the finer details I'm not a fan so far, in the same way that I'm not a fan of the Euro expansion. yeah would imagine so |
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Post by alster on Jan 10, 2017 10:23:49 GMT
I'd sooner see 32 teams split into 8 groups of 4 for the mini league stage with only the group winners qualifying and going straight to Quarter final knockout. I think that would minimise teams being happy to take a draw and produce more attacking football. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 10, 2017 10:23:53 GMT
Drawn group games decided by penno shootouts. Encouraging teams to play for a draw and take a chance with penalties. Brilliant idea.
Fucking cunts.
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Post by MilanStokie on Jan 10, 2017 10:31:41 GMT
It is an abysmal decision.
I see it will be made of 16 groups containing 3 teams.
So the elite teams will be almost guaranteed qualification.
You will now see stuff like Spain, Ecuador, Saudi Arabia making up a group. Much smaller teams qualifying to get a battering off the big boys. Just gone down the same route of Champions League and no doubt we will see repeated fixtures for decades to come.
Borefest.
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Post by Gods on Jan 10, 2017 10:33:22 GMT
Apart from developing the game globally I think FIFA are desperate to ensure China make the finals so they can enjoy all the new revenue opportunities that would bring
Just imagine one and half billion cheery chinamen tuned in (that's a mouthful !) that's over a quarter of the frigging planet and they have a fast growing consumer class.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jan 10, 2017 10:39:39 GMT
Drawn group games decided by penno shootouts. Encouraging teams to play for a draw and take a chance with penalties. Brilliant idea. Fucking cunts. is that the option they've voted for Joe? i know there were 2 different options that involved increasing the number to 48 and only 1 of these options included the above. can't see anything as yet to detail which one they voted for. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 10:59:25 GMT
Really couldn't give a shit about football lately and a lot of that's due to totally fucking daft stuff like this.
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Post by scfc25 on Jan 10, 2017 11:08:36 GMT
Fuck the qualifying games off and the international breaks and give us uninterrupted stoke football all winter and im sold on the 48 team world cup. Sadly that wont be the case...
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jan 10, 2017 11:11:25 GMT
I feel this really devalues when smaller nations genuinely qualify for tournaments. Look at Costa Rica last time.
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Post by norman conquest on Jan 10, 2017 11:28:10 GMT
So egghead is just the same as sep bloater, a greedy cunt. more money for thiefa = more money for the sewer rats that run it
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Post by chad on Jan 10, 2017 11:43:13 GMT
If I've read it correctly it's 16 groups of 3 and then ko stage involving 32 countries So 2 qualify from each group of 3 ???
Absolute bag of horse shit
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 10, 2017 11:44:16 GMT
Drawn group games decided by penno shootouts. Encouraging teams to play for a draw and take a chance with penalties. Brilliant idea. Fucking cunts. is that the option they've voted for Joe? i know there were 2 different options that involved increasing the number to 48 and only 1 of these options included the above. can't see anything as yet to detail which one they voted for. If they haven't but I gone for that format it's a relief. But they are still greedy thick pricks. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 11:51:51 GMT
Really doesn't make much difference as England wouldn't win it if it was a 2 team competition with the other team being Nauru.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jan 10, 2017 12:06:29 GMT
Why do people like their own posts?  It's all abpout expanding the coffers game baby! |
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Post by Veritas on Jan 10, 2017 12:16:15 GMT
I am not a fan of ever expanding international tournaments but this does seem about the best compromise possible, the winner will still play 7 games and the length of the tournament has been pretty much maintained.
Given that FIFA are determined to include more qualifiers from Africa and Asia and there is no chance of Europe or South Aamerica giving up any of their slots this is the only way forward.
Personally I would have just 16 teams, the hosts and 3 qualifiers from each continent, it would mean England never qualifying but so be it as international football bores me rigid anyway.
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Post by realstokebloke on Jan 10, 2017 12:31:03 GMT
Now we see where that twot's votes came from.
Bent as Blatter.
Still a shambles.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Jan 10, 2017 12:34:08 GMT
Based on USA hosting it and the top 15 in Coral's WC18 odds joining them in pot one, and pot two (Asia 8, North America 7, Oceania 1) and pot three (Europe 6, Africa 9, South America 1), and my rather limited geography knowledge mixed with a bit of boredom, here's a taster of what we have to look forward to...
USA, Japan, Serbia
Chile, Canada, Switzerland
Columbia, China, Austria
Brazil, Trinidad&T, Sweden
Italy, New Zealand, Ecuador
Netherlands, North Korea, Egypt
Belgium, El Salvador, Morocco
France, South Korea, Tunisia
Portugal, Jamaica, Gabon
Argentina, Australia, Ireland
Spain, Iran, Algeria
Uruguay, Qatar, Poland
Germany, Saudi Arabia, Ivory Coast
Russia, Costa Rica, Senegal
England, Mexico, Cameroon
Croatia, Honduras, Ghana
Not many games I'd be bothered about watching. And yet England would probably still struggle!
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Post by werrington on Jan 10, 2017 12:36:56 GMT
Sponsor driven in order to gain maximum exposure for their product
In reality that's what this is all about
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 10, 2017 13:01:32 GMT
Most of us will be dead, or senile by the time this comes in......unless of course we are thinking about our grandchildren
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jan 10, 2017 13:13:42 GMT
Most of us will be dead, or senile by the time this comes in......unless of course we are thinking about our grandchildren I hope I won't be dead in 9 years. |
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Post by enuntio on Jan 10, 2017 13:27:26 GMT
Disappointed. I was hoping for 5 teams per group, which would be 4 matches and then onto the knockout stages.
2 games and then home, is much less coverage for the 16 nations that finish bottom of their group.
Another issue is the amount of stadiums and infrastructure that will be needed. Although England has plenty of both, I can't see us becoming the host nation any time soon. After the Brexit vote, there will be a large block of EU teams wanting the competition to be held in €uroland
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Post by Gods on Jan 10, 2017 13:29:40 GMT
If I've read it correctly it's 16 groups of 3 and then ko stage involving 32 countries So 2 qualify from each group of 3 ??? Absolute bag of horse shit Yes I think so. For the top nations the 2 group games should in effect be little more than warm up games to get acclimatised since each group should have one really poor team who won't go through. The upside is that FIFA is doing its job of developing the game globally by bringing 16 new nations in to the fold or if you are cynical there are 16 more nations for potential sponsors to reach. I'm actually fine with it, it shouldn't be like some cosy club. |
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Post by enuntio on Jan 10, 2017 14:03:38 GMT
If I've read it correctly it's 16 groups of 3 and then ko stage involving 32 countries So 2 qualify from each group of 3 ??? Absolute bag of horse shit Yes I think so. For the top nations the 2 group games should in effect be little more than warm up games to get acclimatised since each group should have one really poor team who won't go through. The upside is that FIFA is doing its job of developing the game globally by bringing 16 new nations in to the fold or if you are cynical there are 16 more nations for potential sponsors to reach. I'm actually fine with it, it shouldn't be like some cosy club. I'm all for having more teams, but giving those teams just 2 matches is lacklustre. Having to play 4 games in the group stage keeps the fans more interested as well as giving the "weaker" teams more opportunity to gain experience and potentially cause more upsets |
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Post by Gods on Jan 10, 2017 14:15:46 GMT
Yes I think so. For the top nations the 2 group games should in effect be little more than warm up games to get acclimatised since each group should have one really poor team who won't go through. The upside is that FIFA is doing its job of developing the game globally by bringing 16 new nations in to the fold or if you are cynical there are 16 more nations for potential sponsors to reach. I'm actually fine with it, it shouldn't be like some cosy club. I'm all for having more teams, but giving those teams just 2 matches is lacklustre. Having to play 4 games in the group stage keeps the fans more interested as well as giving the "weaker" teams more opportunity to gain experience and potentially cause more upsets Yes perhaps, that's the detail right, I was more at the principle level of accomodating more teams. |
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 10, 2017 14:16:49 GMT
Apart from developing the game globally I think FIFA are desperate to ensure China make the finals so they can enjoy all the new revenue opportunities that would bring Just imagine one and half billion cheery chinamen tuned in (that's a mouthful !) but it's over a quarter of the frigging planet and they have a fast growing consumer class. Exactly right. It's also the power of democracy with so many countries wanting in from Africa, Eastern Europe, etc. FIFA is turning into football's version of the European song contest. It will result in a number of top 25 countries from Western Europe not qualifying and African countries outside the top 50 getting a place, and officials from countries you have never heard of officiating matches at a level way beyond their ability. There will be more cases of countries sharing holding the competition and ridiculous travel demands on fans. The only surprise to me is they still allow the UK to have 4 countries teams enter. Apologies if this sounds xenophobic but I'm sure* "they" will make moves to cut the UK entries. * edit |
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