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Post by Pugsley on Dec 14, 2016 23:33:51 GMT
A forward of some quality please?
A lad who will work defenders, offer some quality on the ball and knows where the net is. We're absolutely DESPERATE for one.
Or start Ngoy and keep playing him. Could he be our Rashford? It can't be any worse than the misfits we have playing for us now.
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Post by scfcwebby on Dec 14, 2016 23:35:34 GMT
A forward of some quality please? A lad who will work defenders, offer some quality on the ball and knows where the net is. We're absolutely DESPERATE for one. Or start Ngoy and keep playing him. Could he be our Rashford? It can't be any worse than the misfits we have playing for us now. I can't fathom why Ngoy and Sibhi werent even on the bench tonight, I really dont know what Hughes is thinking sometimes with his selections, absolutely bizzare to say the least! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2016 23:36:36 GMT
A forward of some quality please? A lad who will work defenders, offer some quality on the ball and knows where the net is. We're absolutely DESPERATE for one. Or start Ngoy and keep playing him. Could he be our Rashford? It can't be any worse than the misfits we have playing for us now. Walters is so ineffective it's untrue. Our forward options are abysmal. |
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 15, 2016 8:16:20 GMT
A forward of some quality please? A lad who will work defenders, offer some quality on the ball and knows where the net is. We're absolutely DESPERATE for one. Or start Ngoy and keep playing him. Could he be our Rashford? It can't be any worse than the misfits we have playing for us now. Walters is so ineffective it's untrue. Our forward options are abysmal. After four seasons Hughes has still failed to sign an effective striker, the fact we are still turning to Walters and Crouch speaks volumes about the options we have. |
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 15, 2016 8:18:52 GMT
I'd try and get Rashford on loan.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2016 8:20:17 GMT
I think Hughes will act quickly in Jan and bring Berahino in
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Dec 15, 2016 8:20:25 GMT
I feel like I'm just repeating myself in every thread but I've absolutely no idea why Diouf isn't the number one choice up front.
I had no idea last season either.
Nobody offers more.
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Post by wuzza on Dec 15, 2016 8:29:11 GMT
A forward of some quality please? A lad who will work defenders, offer some quality on the ball and knows where the net is. We're absolutely DESPERATE for one. Or start Ngoy and keep playing him. Could he be our Rashford? It can't be any worse than the misfits we have playing for us now. I know this isn't an original point but I still think it has some validity - the way we play really doesn't seem to help anyone in the forward role. It's not as if anyone playing there's has missed chance after chance. We simply don't create chances. In some sort of odd ineffective way we seem to see plenty of the ball , faff around with it , rarely if ever get to the touch line and then just fizzle out. I'm not saying the likes of Bony couldn't have done more to help themselves but it's a bigger picture than just importing one 'name' striker. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 15, 2016 8:31:50 GMT
Pugs we have a bloke sat on the bench we're paying £120,000 a week for so surely we have one?
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 15, 2016 8:34:37 GMT
Pugs we have a bloke sat on the bench we're paying £120,000 a week for so surely we have one? Wuzza's point is a good one regarding chances created. It comes down to the dynamism, or lack of it, in the side. I don't know, but last night just pissed me right off for some irrational reason. |
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Post by alster on Dec 15, 2016 8:40:41 GMT
Pugs we have a bloke sat on the bench we're paying £120,000 a week for so surely we have one? Sadly he doesn't move much better when he's on the pitch than he does on the bench. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 15, 2016 8:41:17 GMT
Pugs we have a bloke sat on the bench we're paying £120,000 a week for so surely we have one? Wuzza's point is a good one regarding chances created. It comes down to the dynamism, or lack of it, in the side. I don't know, but last night just pissed me right off for some irrational reason. Its true mate we could have fuckin Pele up front but WTF would we create for him?. |
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Post by alster on Dec 15, 2016 8:46:33 GMT
I feel like I'm just repeating myself in every thread but I've absolutely no idea why Diouf isn't the number one choice up front. I had no idea last season either. Nobody offers more. He showed reasons for both why he should and shouldn't be last night, pace, work ethic, constant nuisance to defenders unfortunately a god awful footballer with the touch of a rapist and co ordination of a baby Giraffe. |
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Post by superheroantonius on Dec 15, 2016 9:08:55 GMT
I feel like I'm just repeating myself in every thread but I've absolutely no idea why Diouf isn't the number one choice up front. I had no idea last season either. Nobody offers more. He showed reasons for both why he should and shouldn't be last night, pace, work ethic, constant nuisance to defenders unfortunately a god awful footballer with the touch of a rapist and co ordination of a baby Giraffe. This in a nutshell is the problem. It would be nice to think we must have a striker on the books somewhere with diouf's pace and work rate and ability to nuisance defenders but a better touch on the ball. Problem is I don't think we have one! Hardly ideal, but perhaps he should play until we can sign one |
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Post by Kjones9 on Dec 15, 2016 9:10:47 GMT
I thought Walters was alright last night, won a lot of headers.
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Post by that's our Ric on Dec 15, 2016 9:15:34 GMT
I feel like I'm just repeating myself in every thread but I've absolutely no idea why Diouf isn't the number one choice up front. I had no idea last season either. Nobody offers more. Did you not see that header / 'clearance' at Arsenal last week ? Diouf's best position is wing back to best employ his energy and tackling ability He's basically re-invented himself |
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 15, 2016 9:19:08 GMT
A forward of some quality please? A lad who will work defenders, offer some quality on the ball and knows where the net is. We're absolutely DESPERATE for one. Or start Ngoy and keep playing him. Could he be our Rashford? It can't be any worse than the misfits we have playing for us now. I can't fathom why Ngoy and Sibhi werent even on the bench tonight, I really dont know what Hughes is thinking sometimes with his selections, absolutely bizzare to say the least! Yes as a premier league manager with three top 9 finishes the bloke is off his head , he is clueless , pardew in I say , Hughes out , where's that yellow Del Boys Hughes out van when you need it |
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Post by alster on Dec 15, 2016 9:21:09 GMT
I thought Walters was alright last night, won a lot of headers. Completely lacks any threat. We should have had MBD up top and Walters wide for his famed defensive qualities fortunately/unfortunately they're a myth and Diouf is more effective defensively than Walters but then you have no pace to play on the breakaway our striking options are awful. |
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Post by Kjones9 on Dec 15, 2016 9:26:19 GMT
I thought Walters was alright last night, won a lot of headers. Completely lacks any threat. We should have had MBD up top and Walters wide for his famed defensive qualities fortunately/unfortunately they're a myth and Diouf is more effective defensively than Walters but then you have no pace to play on the breakaway our striking options are awful. I agree but it was more the players around (or not) than Walters last night. Yes I'd love a more mobile target man, I just thought that last night was one of his better games. I love Diouf,and him coming on got us a point last night, but when we're misfiring as a team he'd of looked lost last night due to his hold up play. |
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Post by alster on Dec 15, 2016 9:27:34 GMT
I can't fathom why Ngoy and Sibhi werent even on the bench tonight, I really dont know what Hughes is thinking sometimes with his selections, absolutely bizzare to say the least! Yes as a premier league manager with three top 9 finishes the bloke is off his head , he is clueless , pardew in I say , Hughes out , where's that yellow Del Boys Hughes out van when you need it He's been a good manager for us but its all going stale on him and he shows no realisation or idea of how to revitalise it. If you like looking at league tables great for you in truth its nearly 12 months since performances were of a standard we should be aiming for the home games are woeful. |
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Post by scfcwebby on Dec 15, 2016 9:40:00 GMT
I can't fathom why Ngoy and Sibhi werent even on the bench tonight, I really dont know what Hughes is thinking sometimes with his selections, absolutely bizzare to say the least! Yes as a premier league manager with three top 9 finishes the bloke is off his head , he is clueless , pardew in I say , Hughes out , where's that yellow Del Boys Hughes out van when you need it I wasnt in any way questioning his management abilities, or did I say that he was clueless, or off his head, or that I want him gone (unless you can prove otherwise???) I was merely pointing out that his line up decisions / squad rotation is somewhat baffling.... |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Dec 15, 2016 10:03:19 GMT
I feel like I'm just repeating myself in every thread but I've absolutely no idea why Diouf isn't the number one choice up front. I had no idea last season either. Nobody offers more. He showed reasons for both why he should and shouldn't be last night, pace, work ethic, constant nuisance to defenders unfortunately a god awful footballer with the touch of a rapist and co ordination of a baby Giraffe. lol laughed at the baby giraffe comment, does kind of sum him up unfortunately |
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Post by armitagestokie on Dec 15, 2016 10:23:53 GMT
We are crying out for at least 2 decent strikers, playing long balls to an non- existent target man is crap. Not sure if Hughes knows what good strikers are as he has signed some trash.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Dec 15, 2016 10:27:51 GMT
Pugs we have a bloke sat on the bench we're paying £120,000 a week for so surely we have one? Just pointing out that Man city pay a big chunk of his wages, still a good point though, you'd think a bloke earning that sort of money should get in the team |
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Post by jimmygscfc on Dec 15, 2016 10:29:14 GMT
I think Hughes will act quickly in Jan and bring Berahino in Act quickly? He's been trying to sign him for most of the year  |
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Post by kustokie on Dec 15, 2016 10:31:41 GMT
I feel like I'm just repeating myself in every thread but I've absolutely no idea why Diouf isn't the number one choice up front. I had no idea last season either. Nobody offers more. There has been a consistent pattern of throwing strikers like Diouf in for one or two, not giving them much of a chance to settle and then resorting to the usual suspects such as Walters and Crouch. He even resorted to Arni up front (which I have long advocated) in anticipation of the ACON and now he's likely suspended, we're in a mess. Having said that he did persist with Bony and that didn't work either. There's several reasons that contribute to why we do get enough goals from our strikers, including: 1) Just not good enough 2) Not getting in the right position 3) Missing chances 4) Not creating enough chances 5) Too slow 6) Others If we only have one up front most of the goals have to come from elsewhere, so it's not fair to place to much emphasis on the striker but it would certainly help if we increase our productivity in that area. We 8-10 goals a season from defenders as well. |
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Post by potterspele on Dec 15, 2016 10:33:04 GMT
I thought it was a bad move to start Walters (and the first 20 minutes the whole team were shocking) but after the sending off he was the best option to help out defensively.
Diouf might have given us more of a threat up front with 10 but given that he nullified pretty much everything from redmond and tadic when he came on I think Hughes got it right, even if that was more by chance than design.
The problem is that there will still be games we need to go long, last night we were horribly slow at passing out and couldn't handle the press but for the first half lost everything in the air to van dijk. Hard to know who can offer an aerial presence and still have the link up and goal threat to compliment arnie and shaq. Unfortunately the strikers capable of that play for the best teams.
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Post by alster on Dec 15, 2016 10:35:53 GMT
Pugs we have a bloke sat on the bench we're paying £120,000 a week for so surely we have one? Just pointing out that Man city pay a big chunk of his wages, still a good point though, you'd think a bloke earning that sort of money should get in the team I'm not so sure about that unless you can quote a verifiable source. I'd been led to believe that we are paying the vast majority of his wages and thats substantially more than our top earners. Not really blaming anyone, it was a fair last minute punt that hasn't paid off. What blame there is, is that we put all our eggs in the Berahino basket and as players they could hardly be more different. The last thing we need in our team is yet more immobility. |
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Post by muglump on Dec 15, 2016 10:40:58 GMT
Diouf is an excellent guy and always gives more than his all, and should always be at least on the bench. Sadly a goal machine he is not and never will be. Walters is also a good man in a crisis but is way past his best, as is, sadly, Peter Crouch (in my opinion one of the best players to ever wear the red and white, unplayable when younger and in form) Bony isn't going to stay and is at his best as a hold up man. Unless someone from the youth team is a hidden (very hidden) gem we need an old fashioned linekeresque goal hanger. But then don't most teams? Among a lot of foreign players there seems to be a lot of tehnical ability and a desire to keep the ball no matter what, but we need a cutting edge. Maybe an in form Bojan with a brief to go for goal the whole time? It's a tough one and I think we need to bring someone in.
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Post by metalhead on Dec 15, 2016 10:57:20 GMT
I felt Jon did all he could last night. Ran his socks off, worked hard, but he literally offered no threat whatsoever. He was never likely to score.
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