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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 12:56:48 GMT
These days I'll settle for a shit ref so long as he's not biased against us. He let us off massively with the Shawcross incident, and for all the lack of punishment for their time wasting he still added 6 minutes at the end - and there've been plenty of refs who've not done this over the past couple of years.
It was a horrible niggly match to watch, and I don't think the players on either side made it easy for him - we committed some stupid fouls that gave them the opportunity to take a break.
We had plenty of chances to retrieve the game and totally fucked it up. The ref played no part in our defeat and Shawcross would have been looking at a ban with any other ref in charge.
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Post by JC9 on Nov 20, 2016 13:26:59 GMT
One thing that really pissed me off about him yesterday, was the amount of Bournemouth players who were in his face asking for fouls after every challenge, and the referee didn't show his card once. This was constantly happening all game and East didn't do anything about it. No bollocks what so ever.
Shocking to see.
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Post by Jimm on Nov 20, 2016 13:34:33 GMT
They should of had a clear pen, Shawcross should of been sent off and Bony should of had two yellows... Haven't they changed the law now on red cards for last man fouls? Oh, I'm not sure then
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 14:08:09 GMT
Anagram of incompetent clown
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Post by stokie1954 on Nov 20, 2016 14:09:44 GMT
These days I'll settle for a shit ref so long as he's not biased against us. He let us off massively with the Shawcross incident, and for all the lack of punishment for their time wasting he still added 6 minutes at the end - and there've been plenty of refs who've not done this over the past couple of years. It was a horrible niggly match to watch, and I don't think the players on either side made it easy for him - we committed some stupid fouls that gave them the opportunity to take a break. We had plenty of chances to retrieve the game and totally fucked it up. The ref played no part in our defeat and Shawcross would have been looking at a ban with any other ref in charge. Summed up perfectly!.
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Post by smalleypotter on Nov 20, 2016 14:15:11 GMT
My understanding of the rule change is that a sending-off is no longer automatic for an "accidental" foul resulting in a penalty. However a player will still get a red card for a "deliberate" foul. I do not think Ryan's foul in this game could be called accidental. However, has anyone got any conclusive evidence that Wilson was or was not off-side as he went on his run (and yes I do get the point that it was not given so he was not). My feeling at the time was that he was about 2 yards off-side.
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Post by Kjones9 on Nov 20, 2016 15:23:19 GMT
Haven't they changed the law now on red cards for last man fouls? Oh, I'm not sure then I'm sure you could've researched that on twitter.
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Post by Jimm on Nov 20, 2016 16:00:21 GMT
I'm sure you could've researched that on twitter. Here IT is.... I'm sure you're on about a different person but either way, fuck off...
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Post by roostershair on Nov 20, 2016 16:35:09 GMT
He's just a bloody bugger.
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Post by Kjones9 on Nov 20, 2016 17:16:38 GMT
I'm sure you could've researched that on twitter. Here IT is.... I'm sure you're on about a different person but either way, fuck off... That's abuse young jimmy.
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Post by andylgr on Nov 20, 2016 19:28:17 GMT
My understanding of the rule change is that a sending-off is no longer automatic for an "accidental" foul resulting in a penalty. However a player will still get a red card for a "deliberate" foul. I do not think Ryan's foul in this game could be called accidental. However, has anyone got any conclusive evidence that Wilson was or was not off-side as he went on his run (and yes I do get the point that it was not given so he was not). My feeling at the time was that he was about 2 yards off-side. I thought he was onside, it looked like Bruno tried to step up but wasn't quite quick enough.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Nov 20, 2016 19:49:15 GMT
Hope in his post match report there's a suggestion of charging Howe and Bournemouth with ungentlemanly conduct, and bringing the game into disrepute. To the stocks with them.
He lost control, second half was farcical. The player with the broken nail who hit the deck, the player who refused to be subbed, comedy. Things rarely turn out well when refs attempt to 'even' things out. I thought there was an element of that re the penalty.
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Post by mattythestokie on Nov 20, 2016 19:54:07 GMT
He had an absolute shocker. For both teams.
The linesman facing the boothen first half was just as bad. One example in the first half where one of our players clearly kicked the ball out and he gives us the throw.
Funny when it goes our way, but just ridiculous when you think about it. They didn't have a clue.
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Post by Jimm on Nov 20, 2016 21:15:12 GMT
Here IT is.... I'm sure you're on about a different person but either way, fuck off... That's abuse young jimmy. Go tell the teacher then... Don't act like a prick if you don't want it back
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Post by robinplumpton on Nov 20, 2016 21:37:05 GMT
I agree with many of the comments on here. The referee had a shocker. I was front row behind the inept linesman , seeing him make a piss poor decision re the foul that resulted in their goal. It was quite simply, obviously wrong. However the clown with the flag did not then cause our defence to stand statuesque and gift Bournemouth a goal. East should have given them a penalty and then he granted us one that I would have been livid had it been given against us. Yes Bournemouth tried then to cheat their way to the final whistle, but, would we do anything different in their position? A rhetorical question. The answer is yes we would do something different, not because we adopt the moral high ground, but yesterday we made absolutely the wrong decisions from top to bottom. Team selection, decisions about passes on the pitch. East got most of his decisions wrong, but, whilst I love my club and its players, how many of them got less decisions wrong than the referee? I doubt that Charlie, Bojan and Ryan made less wrong decisions . Sparkys selection proved shite and the oatcake choosing to big up Bojan, sparky, Charlie, Arnie shows their decision making is just as bad...smiley winky thing. I came home from that day thinking that our players can finally empathise with me, namely they had a shit,shit,shit day at work and we can only hope that the next one is better.😩
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Post by Kjones9 on Nov 20, 2016 21:45:54 GMT
That's abuse young jimmy. Go tell the teacher then... Don't act like a prick if you don't want it back Do you kiss your mother with that mouth little jimmy krankie?
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Post by Jimm on Nov 20, 2016 21:52:46 GMT
Go tell the teacher then... Don't act like a prick if you don't want it back Do you kiss your mother with that mouth little jimmy krankie? (tumbleweed)
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Post by mickstupp on Nov 20, 2016 21:56:41 GMT
He was garbage and we massively benefited from his incompetence. We've only got ourselves to blame for that yesterday, we were beyond shite.
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Post by Gods on Nov 20, 2016 22:03:52 GMT
He was garbage and we massively benefited from his incompetence. We've only got ourselves to blame for that yesterday, we were beyond shite. We were comfortably the net beneficaries of his incompetence and yet still incredibly contrived to hand Bournemouth all 3 points. It really was a heart breaking afternoon.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 20, 2016 23:08:32 GMT
He was garbage and we massively benefited from his incompetence. We've only got ourselves to blame for that yesterday, we were beyond shite. We were comfortably the net beneficaries of his incompetence and yet still incredibly contrived to hand Bournemouth all 3 points. It really was a heart breaking afternoon. Spot on and on the basis these things even out that's a horror horror result , right now I really can't see three worse teams Sunderland away and Swansea away already builds no in significance . Right now ref on our side or not we can't beat anyone outside the bottom three by Dec end we will be below the point a game benchmark at current rate as we Donr play any of the bottom five again before half time.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 20, 2016 23:18:53 GMT
We were comfortably the net beneficaries of his incompetence and yet still incredibly contrived to hand Bournemouth all 3 points. It really was a heart breaking afternoon. Spot on and on the basis these things even out that's a horror horror result , right now I really can't see three worse teams Sunderland away and Swansea away already builds no in significance . Right now ref on our side or not we can't beat anyone outside the bottom three by Dec end we will be below the point a game benchmark at current rate as we Donr play any of the bottom five again before half time. I shouldn't let myself rise to it but just nob off Benj.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 20, 2016 23:24:45 GMT
Spot on and on the basis these things even out that's a horror horror result , right now I really can't see three worse teams Sunderland away and Swansea away already builds no in significance . Right now ref on our side or not we can't beat anyone outside the bottom three by Dec end we will be below the point a game benchmark at current rate as we Donr play any of the bottom five again before half time. I shouldn't let myself rise to it but just nob off Benj. Laughing go on then how many outside the bottom five do we play before half way ?How many have we beaten above the bottom five have we beaten ? some of us didn't fall for beating Swansea and Sunderland made everything ok , I think we are in big trouble you think not fair enough time will tell .
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 20, 2016 23:29:44 GMT
We were comfortably the net beneficaries of his incompetence and yet still incredibly contrived to hand Bournemouth all 3 points. It really was a heart breaking afternoon. Spot on and on the basis these things even out that's a horror horror result , right now I really can't see three worse teams Sunderland away and Swansea away already builds no in significance . Right now ref on our side or not we can't beat anyone outside the bottom three by Dec end we will be below the point a game benchmark at current rate as we Donr play any of the bottom five again before half time. Horror result? Melodramatic much?
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 20, 2016 23:36:00 GMT
I shouldn't let myself rise to it but just nob off Benj. Laughing go on then how many outside the bottom five do we play before half way ?How many have we beaten above the bottom five have we beaten ? some of us didn't fall for beating Swansea and Sunderland made everything ok , I think we are in big trouble you think not fair enough time will tell . It's not who we play or when we play them that concerns me it's this incessant negativity you spout that grips my shit. I have a whinge with the best of them after a loss, especially like yesterday, but you really do take the biscuit (pun intended). If you hadn't been a total cock for the past couple of years with your failed predictions of doom and gloom then you might have some credibility but you have and so you don't. We are not in trouble. Just have some faith. A difficult concept for you I know but try it. Sometimes blind faith works.
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Post by andylgr on Nov 20, 2016 23:57:13 GMT
What is clear as day is that these officials don't seem to have played the game or understand the cynical side of it.
When a player time wastes by sitting himself down like they did yesterday, then just play on, it's not a head injury and they'd soon have stopped doing it if he did that. How could he not understand what they were trying to do?
Cut out the time wasting early one by booking someone for it, it would soon stop.
I thought their right back threw himself down for the free kick that lead to the goal, the liner was less than 6 yards away and can't see that's what the player was looking for.
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Post by lancashirelad on Nov 25, 2016 15:51:09 GMT
Has emailed Bournemouth to apologies rightly for not giving them that penalty.
He should also apologise to all of us that match as his team were appalling throughout the game.
We lost rightly so because Bournemouth scored a goal more than us.
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Post by pottersrule on Nov 25, 2016 17:41:48 GMT
Has emailed Bournemouth to apologies rightly for not giving them that penalty. He should also apologise to all of us that match as his team were appalling throughout the game. We lost rightly so because Bournemouth scored a goal more than us. Should apologise to us for spending the rest of the game trying to make up for his guff and only allowing 6 mins stoppages.Howe should also be censored by the fa, for rimming East by saying he is one of the best refs.
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