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Post by mrcoke on Nov 12, 2016 9:28:10 GMT
Can any one at the club explain why it is not possible to erect a big screen at the North West corner now? www.stokesentinel.co.uk/stoke-city-to-reluctantly-remove-big-screen-in-new-year/story-29886961-detail/story.html?The time the contractors require to fill in the corner is ridiculously long. The steel industry can dismantle and rebuild a blast furnace in less than 4 months, which is a massive (big as St Paul's), complicated, structure. All it takes is organizing the necessary resources to do it it terms of materials available, manpower, cranes, working round the clock, etc. With long day light hours in the summer, shift work could take place 16 hours a day without flood-lighting. There is clearly not the will by those involved. I think on this one, Stoke City has let it supporters down. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 12, 2016 9:39:20 GMT
Can any one at the club explain why it is not possible to erect a big screen at the North West corner now?www.stokesentinel.co.uk/stoke-city-to-reluctantly-remove-big-screen-in-new-year/story-29886961-detail/story.html?The time the contractors require to fill in the corner is ridiculously long. The steel industry can dismantle and rebuild a blast furnace in less than 4 months, which is a massive (big as St Paul's), complicated, structure. All it takes is organizing the necessary resources to do it it terms of materials available, manpower, cranes, working round the clock, etc. With long day light hours in the summer, shift work could take place 16 hours a day without flood-lighting. There is clearly not the will by those involved. I think on this one, Stoke City has let it supporters down. That was my first thought when I read the article this morning.  Hopefully the Supporters' Council will ask the same question and try to get the policy reversed.
I don't quite understand why the Sentinel didn't ask the question as well. Newspapers are not just there to report the news - they should also be asking questions and not just repeat whatever they are told. |
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 12, 2016 9:42:03 GMT
Anybody who doesn't think this will be nothing short of a half-arsed effort are seriously mistaken. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's not open come next season kick-off and we will ask for our first three fixtures to be played away.
Why the fuck can't we start putting in a new screen in the opposite corner NOW so when the old one comes down the new one is working?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 12, 2016 9:44:44 GMT
Anybody who doesn't think this will be nothing short of a half-arsed effort are seriously mistaken. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's not open come next season kick-off and we will ask for our first three fixtures to be played away. Why the fuck can't we start putting in a new screen in the opposite corner NOW so when the old one comes down the new one is working?You'll never get a job working for the Sentinel asking questions like that! That's almost up to Watergate investigative journalistic standards.  |
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 12, 2016 9:46:37 GMT
Anybody who doesn't think this will be nothing short of a half-arsed effort are seriously mistaken. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's not open come next season kick-off and we will ask for our first three fixtures to be played away. Why the fuck can't we start putting in a new screen in the opposite corner NOW so when the old one comes down the new one is working?You'll never get a job working for the Sentinel asking questions like that! That's almost up to Watergate investigative journalistic standards. No point asking to be honest. We all know the answer. |
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Post by samba :) on Nov 12, 2016 9:47:55 GMT
Can any one at the club explain why it is not possible to erect a big screen at the North West corner now?www.stokesentinel.co.uk/stoke-city-to-reluctantly-remove-big-screen-in-new-year/story-29886961-detail/story.html?The time the contractors require to fill in the corner is ridiculously long. The steel industry can dismantle and rebuild a blast furnace in less than 4 months, which is a massive (big as St Paul's), complicated, structure. All it takes is organizing the necessary resources to do it it terms of materials available, manpower, cranes, working round the clock, etc. With long day light hours in the summer, shift work could take place 16 hours a day without flood-lighting. There is clearly not the will by those involved. I think on this one, Stoke City has let it supporters down. That was my first thought when I read the article this morning. Hopefully the Supporters' Council will ask the same question and try to get the policy reversed.
I don't quite understand why the Sentinel didn't ask the question as well. Newspapers are not just there to report the news - they should also be asking questions and not just repeat whatever they are told. i think the keyword in this post is Sentinel |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 12, 2016 9:52:37 GMT
Anybody who doesn't think this will be nothing short of a half-arsed effort are seriously mistaken. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's not open come next season kick-off and we will ask for our first three fixtures to be played away. Why the fuck can't we start putting in a new screen in the opposite corner NOW so when the old one comes down the new one is working?You'll never get a job working for the Sentinel asking questions like that! That's almost up to Watergate investigative journalistic standards. Are they putting a 'new' screen in or just moving the old one? That might explain the gap. Sorry can't be arsed to wade through all the shite on the sentivale website. |
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 12, 2016 9:54:17 GMT
You'll never get a job working for the Sentinel asking questions like that! That's almost up to Watergate investigative journalistic standards. Are they putting a 'new' screen in or just moving the old one? That might explain the gap. Sorry can't be arsed to wade through all the shite on the sentivale website. The screen that we have now, is it the only one in existence? We ALL know the reason behind this, it's not rocket science. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 12, 2016 9:56:27 GMT
Another thing - the Sentinel article (linked in the top post on the thread) refers to removing the big screen after the Spurs game on February 25th. I don't see the relevance of the date of the Spurs game to the removal of the screen as the Spurs game is an AWAY game. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 12, 2016 10:00:02 GMT
You'll never get a job working for the Sentinel asking questions like that! That's almost up to Watergate investigative journalistic standards. Are they putting a 'new' screen in or just moving the old one? That might explain the gap. Sorry can't be arsed to wade through all the shite on the sentivale website. Even if they are moving the existing screen to the opposite corner - there is no reason why the gantry to hold it could not be built now and the screen moved to the new location and connected up to the system in the gap between two home games in February/March. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 12, 2016 10:04:29 GMT
Are they putting a 'new' screen in or just moving the old one? That might explain the gap. Sorry can't be arsed to wade through all the shite on the sentivale website. Even if they are moving the existing screen to the opposite corner - there is no reason why the gantry to hold it could not be built now and the screen moved to the new location and connected up to the system in the gap between two home games in February/March. Whooaa slow down a bit. It's taken us 20 years to get round to adding one bloody corner. These things can't be rushed. I'm amazed that St Peter has been extremely generous in providing funds for the squad and the training facilities but is a tight old git when it comes to anything to do with the ground. It really is a bit of a jerry built shit hole isn't it? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 12, 2016 10:09:43 GMT
It's all very Stoke isn't it!
The screen was knackered on Tuesday night anyway, the whole bottom row of panels for the screen was blurred.
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Post by woodin43 on Nov 12, 2016 10:10:30 GMT
However did we manage before screens were introduced at football grounds...oh yes, we watched the match on the pitch.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 10:14:47 GMT
The TV screen we've got will be taken down and two new ones put up. Meanwhile, there won't be a screen for a few matches but, and I quote one Richard Smith, Managing Director of Stoke City Property, as saying:
"I would hope supporters would see the bigger picture."
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Post by MuddyWoody on Nov 12, 2016 10:15:21 GMT
Anybody who doesn't think this will be nothing short of a half-arsed effort are seriously mistaken. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's not open come next season kick-off and we will ask for our first three fixtures to be played away. Why the fuck can't we start putting in a new screen in the opposite corner NOW so when the old one comes down the new one is working? We may as well do that anyway as the team never shows up til the 7th game of the season. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 12, 2016 10:18:59 GMT
However did we manage before screens were introduced at football grounds...oh yes, we watched the match on the pitch. A pointless comment. I'm actually old enough to remember going to the occasional game before floodlights and I can remember when many grounds were about 2/3 open to the elements with no roof. And, of course, pillars were the order of the day at most grounds before cantilever roofs were invented. But those innovations add to, rather than detract from, the enjoyment of the game. The fact is that the game has moved on and big screens, for most fans, add something to the game. I don't look at the screen all the time - like most fans I look at the game on the pitch, that's why I go there, but a screen for replays is useful - so much so that at grounds like Old Trafford and Anfield, it annoys me that I can't see a replay of a goal seconds after it is scored. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 12, 2016 10:24:40 GMT
However did we manage before screens were introduced at football grounds...oh yes, we watched the match on the pitch. A pointless comment. I'm actually old enough to remember going to the occasional game before floodlights and I can remember when many grounds were about 2/3 open to the elements with no roof. And, of course, pillars were the order of the day at most grounds before cantilever roofs were invented. But those innovations add to, rather than detract from, the enjoyment of the game. The fact is that the game has moved on and big screens, for most fans, add something to the game. I don't look at the screen all the time - like most fans I look at the game on the pitch, that's why I go there, but a screen for replays is useful - so much so that at grounds like Old Trafford and Anfield, it annoys me that I can't see a replay of a goal seconds after it is scored. Do you also remember when there was washing line instead of a crossbar and all the players wore their public school caps?  Go on scan your telegram from the King on here?  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 12, 2016 10:25:01 GMT
The TV screen we've got will be taken down and two new ones put up. Meanwhile, there won't be a screen for a few matches but, and I quote one Richard Smith, Managing Director of Stoke City Property, as saying: "I would hope supporters would see the bigger picture." Yeah the bigger picture, it's not that hard surely to get one up on the other side? |
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Post by scfcwebby on Nov 12, 2016 10:26:46 GMT
Are they putting a 'new' screen in or just moving the old one? That might explain the gap. Sorry can't be arsed to wade through all the shite on the sentivale website. Even if they are moving the existing screen to the opposite corner - there is no reason why the gantry to hold it could not be built now and the screen moved to the new location and connected up to the system in the gap between two home games in February/March. Im pretty sure the plans said that there would be a new giant screen in the corner, i may be wrong though. The fact that they are adding the new corner there shows that there is zero thoughts to develop further any time soon. |
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Post by adi on Nov 12, 2016 10:40:00 GMT
Can any one at the club explain why it is not possible to erect a big screen at the North West corner now?www.stokesentinel.co.uk/stoke-city-to-reluctantly-remove-big-screen-in-new-year/story-29886961-detail/story.html?The time the contractors require to fill in the corner is ridiculously long. The steel industry can dismantle and rebuild a blast furnace in less than 4 months, which is a massive (big as St Paul's), complicated, structure. All it takes is organizing the necessary resources to do it it terms of materials available, manpower, cranes, working round the clock, etc. With long day light hours in the summer, shift work could take place 16 hours a day without flood-lighting. There is clearly not the will by those involved. I think on this one, Stoke City has let it supporters down. That was my first thought when I read the article this morning. Hopefully the Supporters' Council will ask the same question and try to get the policy reversed.
I don't quite understand why the Sentinel didn't ask the question as well. Newspapers are not just there to report the news - they should also be asking questions and not just repeat whatever they are told. Behave. The Sentinel are only there to ask pre-approved questions. They are incapable of independent thought. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 10:51:20 GMT
I'm going to email St Peter to advise that I've got a spare 32" Samsung knocking about & I'll give up my time to come down and plug it in for him, in the interim.
If he thinks he's borrowing my extension lead though, he can get fucked.
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Post by ashleyscfc on Nov 12, 2016 10:54:34 GMT
So if we're having new screens. What's happening with the old one? Why can't it be put in the empty corner? Or on top of the building by the tunnel? Or outside the ground on"Gordon's bank" showing match highlights? Or looking into the A50 advertising similar to knights? Seems a waste
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Post by AlliG on Nov 12, 2016 10:57:21 GMT
However did we manage before screens were introduced at football grounds...oh yes, we watched the match on the pitch. A pointless comment. I'm actually old enough to remember going to the occasional game before floodlights and I can remember when many grounds were about 2/3 open to the elements with no roof. And, of course, pillars were the order of the day at most grounds before cantilever roofs were invented. But those innovations add to, rather than detract from, the enjoyment of the game. The fact is that the game has moved on and big screens, for most fans, add something to the game. I don't look at the screen all the time - like most fans I look at the game on the pitch, that's why I go there, but a screen for replays is useful - so much so that at grounds like Old Trafford and Anfield, it annoys me that I can't see a replay of a goal seconds after it is scored. It is also quite useful to those of us who are a bit "forgetful" as a reminder of players names when they show the team sheets during the game. |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Nov 12, 2016 11:00:56 GMT
However did we manage before screens were introduced at football grounds...oh yes, we watched the match on the pitch. OR.....watched the old clock in the corner of the boothen end of the old Victoria Ground....that was those days equivalent of a big screen!!!  |
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Post by tony harrison on Nov 12, 2016 11:09:52 GMT
Don't know why they can't stick a new screen on the top of the roof at both ends of the ground before the old one is removed?
Also on the subject of television screens, why was no account taken of the actual visible screen size taken for the new television screens in the concourse areas?
By the time you remove the advertising space used at the sider and below the actual picture they might as well have installed some 14" portable tv's in there? Just an observation!
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 12, 2016 11:18:46 GMT
However did we manage before screens were introduced at football grounds...oh yes, we watched the match on the pitch. Nice one woodin. I was amused watching the match on computer at West Ham. Every time the camera switched to Karen Brady CBE, which was frequently, she had her head fast in her iPhone; never once did she appear to be watching the match. |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Nov 12, 2016 11:27:44 GMT
Missing a trick here. New seats to go in and new telly's. So put airplane type seats in with telly's in the back of the head rests. Simples.
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Post by Robo10 on Nov 12, 2016 11:44:54 GMT
I would like the old/current one please for my garden
Be great watching the test with a beer in the summer from my sun patio!
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Nov 12, 2016 12:01:11 GMT
It was originally Aston Villa's screen wasn't it?
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Post by maninasuitcase on Nov 12, 2016 12:01:54 GMT
The screens at the Olympic Park were very impressive but I guess well be going for the cathode tube option and watch the little dot disappear when they switch it off.
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