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Post by pottarius on Aug 20, 2016 0:59:04 GMT
Would be happy if this happens, yeh its a slight risk but a club our size has to take a few to get his kind of quality, if we can keep him fit he'll sort us out at the back along side Shawcross. Not convinced Hughes sees his place as automatically to play alongside Ryan - I think he is the back up for 3 players: Shawcross & Johnson mainly & Whelan (more rarely). I think you'll see him alongside Wolly more than Ryan due to his back injury. I sadly think its no coincidence Ryan has been doing his coaching badges this summer as perhaps he thinks he has only a limited time playing left (hope I'm wrong of course) His injury record (mainly self-inflicted from memory) worries me as much as his gurning ability but TBF he's a good all rounder for the squad and a definite upgrade on the likes of Bards, Cameron, Tex etc
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Post by imho on Aug 20, 2016 1:05:51 GMT
Phil Jones has been mentioned quite a lot on other threads as a possible upgrade or cover to several positions - FB CB DM - basically an English Cameron. Him and either Trippier / Taylor would do fine for me English Cameron? Jones a much better player just to injury prone. I meant in the same way that both are Jack of all trades, master of none; but yes a better player than Geoff, Bards, and possibly wolly & Glen.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 1:29:38 GMT
Best gurner in the Prem. Sign him up.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 20, 2016 1:50:08 GMT
Would be happy if this happens, yeh its a slight risk but a club our size has to take a few to get his kind of quality, if we can keep him fit he'll sort us out at the back along side Shawcross. Not convinced Hughes sees his place as automatically to play alongside Ryan - I think he is the back up for 3 players: Shawcross & Johnson mainly & Whelan (more rarely). I think you'll see him alongside Wolly more than Ryan due to his back injury. I sadly think its no coincidence Ryan has been doing his coaching badges this summer as perhaps he thinks he has only a limited time playing left (hope I'm wrong of course) His injury record (mainly self-inflicted from memory) worries me as much as his gurning ability but TBF he's a good all rounder for the squad and a definite upgrade on the likes of Bards, Cameron, Tex etc If fit he's an upgrade on everyone, I think people are reading too much into Shawcross recent injuries, and I just cant see Jones being anything other than a guaranteed starter when fit.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 20, 2016 1:52:10 GMT
English Cameron? Jones a much better player just to injury prone. I meant in the same way that both are Jack of all trades, master of none; but yes a better player than Geoff, Bards, and possibly wolly & Glen. Possibly
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Post by pottarius on Aug 20, 2016 1:52:48 GMT
If ugly is our new recruitment policy maybe we should go for this guy running down the wing Attachment Deleted
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Post by Cast no shadow on Aug 20, 2016 1:53:48 GMT
Coming watch tomorrow apparently
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Post by victoria on Aug 20, 2016 2:10:30 GMT
Allardyce should like that pairing of Jones and shawcross. With jack behind them.
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Post by pottarius on Aug 20, 2016 2:11:15 GMT
Not convinced Hughes sees his place as automatically to play alongside Ryan - I think he is the back up for 3 players: Shawcross & Johnson mainly & Whelan (more rarely). I think you'll see him alongside Wolly more than Ryan due to his back injury. I sadly think its no coincidence Ryan has been doing his coaching badges this summer as perhaps he thinks he has only a limited time playing left (hope I'm wrong of course) His injury record (mainly self-inflicted from memory) worries me as much as his gurning ability but TBF he's a good all rounder for the squad and a definite upgrade on the likes of Bards, Cameron, Tex etc If fit he's an upgrade on everyone, I think people are reading too much into Shawcross recent injuries, and I just cant see Jones being anything other than a guaranteed starter when fit. Certainly hope you're right regarding Ryan Whilst pace wise (and gait wise) he's an upgrade on Wolly, I still don't think he'd walk straight into the starting 11 as a CB if we stick with 2xCB. Now that I think of it, perhaps it gives the option of the back 3 in Hughes' mind as for sure in pre-season he was playing around with this
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 20, 2016 2:29:39 GMT
If fit he's an upgrade on everyone, I think people are reading too much into Shawcross recent injuries, and I just cant see Jones being anything other than a guaranteed starter when fit. Certainly hope you're right regarding Ryan Whilst pace wise (and gait wise) he's an upgrade on Wolly, I still don't think he'd walk straight into the starting 11 as a CB if we stick with 2xCB. Now that I think of it, perhaps it gives the option of the back 3 in Hughes' mind as for sure in pre-season he was playing around with this I wish you hadn't mentioned that , I really hope we don't go near 3 at the back, we don't have the full backs or the back ups, we'd have to change everything around if there was just a single injury, but with just 2 at the back I really can't see who'd keep him out if all fit and ready.
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Post by pottarius on Aug 20, 2016 2:34:03 GMT
Certainly hope you're right regarding Ryan Whilst pace wise (and gait wise) he's an upgrade on Wolly, I still don't think he'd walk straight into the starting 11 as a CB if we stick with 2xCB. Now that I think of it, perhaps it gives the option of the back 3 in Hughes' mind as for sure in pre-season he was playing around with this I wish you hadn't mentioned that , I really hope we don't go near 3 at the back, we don't have the full backs or the back ups, we'd have to change everything around if there was just a single injury, but with just 2 at the back I really can't see who'd keep him out if all fit and ready. Not a big fan of it either but seems Hughes wants to explore it. At least with Jones we'd have pace in the 3 which is vital (as are decent wingbacks and only Johnson when fit is suitable in our squad - unless Pieters rediscovers his touch)
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Post by kustokie on Aug 20, 2016 3:32:12 GMT
As a big cumbersome slow as fuck injury prone centre back, he fits the bill. What's not to like? Are you taking the piss, he's faster than any centre back we have, he's also miles faster than Whelan. That's not saying much!
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Post by kustokie on Aug 20, 2016 3:35:10 GMT
If fit he's an upgrade on everyone, I think people are reading too much into Shawcross recent injuries, and I just cant see Jones being anything other than a guaranteed starter when fit. Certainly hope you're right regarding Ryan Whilst pace wise (and gait wise) he's an upgrade on Wolly, I still don't think he'd walk straight into the starting 11 as a CB if we stick with 2xCB. Now that I think of it, perhaps it gives the option of the back 3 in Hughes' mind as for sure in pre-season he was playing around with this No, no, no! He might improve the back 3 but we have no wing backs. The pre-season rehearsals were nothing short of catastrophic.
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Post by kustokie on Aug 20, 2016 3:49:27 GMT
Can't we just bring back Denis Smith? He may have slowed up a bit, but I bet he would scare the crap out the whimps playing today. He's only 68 - he's got be quicker than Dumbo on Ice.
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Post by foster on Aug 20, 2016 4:28:31 GMT
If true he'll be a starter with Ryan.
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Post by jarhead on Aug 20, 2016 5:18:47 GMT
Would be a great signing
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 20, 2016 5:29:22 GMT
I went to longton high , it does show sometimes , but thank you So did I hated it Sandon rd first then Box Lane . It's been demolished now and wiped off the face of the earth and Meir
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Post by Fredrikstad Norway on Aug 20, 2016 5:38:50 GMT
Wonder how much he would cost us if the move is make permanent next year. 2014/145 season he had great stats. One of the best defenders in PL. 3 MotM. Only 22 matches that year.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Aug 20, 2016 5:39:27 GMT
Him and Shawcross would be a cracking partnership.
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Post by sharonbeech21 on Aug 20, 2016 5:54:08 GMT
Im not sure about whether Phil Jones is the answer but i would like to see Keiran Trippier i think he would be a better option
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Post by werrington on Aug 20, 2016 5:55:40 GMT
Im not sure about whether Phil Jones is the answer but i would like to see Keiran Trippier i think he would be a better option Different positions though ....Trippier is a right back
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 5:56:29 GMT
Yeah it would, he needs confidence and games. Then I think he will get back to what he was, which was one of the best British centre backs.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 5:57:16 GMT
Im not sure about whether Phil Jones is the answer but i would like to see Keiran Trippier i think he would be a better option Different positions love, both would be better and get rid of Bardsley.
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Post by Beardy200 on Aug 20, 2016 6:24:28 GMT
He is very close to signing on a season long loan, this one has been going on for weeks as I mentioned ages ago but Jose wanted to assess his squad before letting him leave on loan. Should be done Monday/tuesday Got any evidence to back that statement? Would be a great addition but I just don't see it happening to be honest. Evidence? What sort of thing are you expecting exactly.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 6:35:34 GMT
Didn't realise his injury problems were so bad, he's missed 85 games in the last 4 years through injury!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 6:49:14 GMT
Bit of a surprise that he's still only 24; I'd have thought he was at least a couple of years older than that.
If true, he's a good signing and could end up being the 'long-term Whelan replacement' we've been looking for (if he were to end up signing permanently for us).
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Aug 20, 2016 6:58:50 GMT
Just spoke to a shit fan up the pub & it's the first he's heard of it but did say that he's supposedly fit & injury free. Bloody good ball playing centre back who's been screwed by injuries and too many position experiments. Ugly us fuck but I'd sign him
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Post by greyface on Aug 20, 2016 7:00:21 GMT
he isn't going to come here to provide cover for anyone, if fit he will be first choice centre half. Why would he be shifted around to cover Johnson and Whelan? Yes he has played right back and centre mid but never with any success.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 20, 2016 7:05:40 GMT
Would be a good signing.
We're also after Young as well aren't we?
Whilst we're there we should try and get Rashford on loan!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 20, 2016 7:07:49 GMT
Would be a good signing. We're also after Young as well aren't we? Whilst we're there we should try and get Rashford on loan! You can only get one loan from a PL club
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