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Post by roostershair on Jul 31, 2016 7:37:32 GMT
How long before the John Lennon wannabes on here come up with a song for him? Imagine having his name on your shirt!
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Post by homer32 on Jul 31, 2016 7:42:31 GMT
Think I'll start saving up to have his name put on my shirt!
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Post by slother on Jul 31, 2016 7:46:25 GMT
Strange link if true. Only seems to be on the Mirror's transfer blog, rather than the paper as such. Seems to have been an elite prospect at Schalke 3-4 years ago, attracting £15m+ bids when that still meant something! But his last 4 seasons have been positively Jack Wilshere-esque. Moved to Leverkusen last summer for a cut-price £5m and ran into more injury problems. It'd be a surprise if Leverkusen would let him go 1 yr into a 5-yr deal if he was fit. Their owners are massively rich. Although they do seem to have a couple of other good centre-backs - in a German international ,Tah , who was at the Euros, another Turkish centre-back Toprak who seems to be valued at 20m euros - and are in negotiations for another centre-half, Dragovic of Kiev - for 15m euros+ - which does kind of make you think something would be possible? Hell of an injury record though - and also seems to be reputed to be as mad as a box of frogs. Good post. If Stoke want to pay massive amounts of money to someone for sitting in a hydrotherapy pool all day, I'll hand my notice in tomorrow. Avoid.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 31, 2016 7:51:31 GMT
As a player, yes. As an athlete, avoid.
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Post by Fred Merger on Jul 31, 2016 8:03:09 GMT
Didn't he marry that Sharon from Birds of a Feather?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 31, 2016 8:03:36 GMT
Leverkusen fans seem to think it'd be a good deal for them if there was any truth in it, with his injury record and their centre-half depth. But they're only quoting this one English source...... linkStoke will probably grind nearly 14 million offer for Papa.www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-news-live-arsenal-manchester-8517580?service=tablet&service=tablet&service=tablet&service=tablet Weiter below. Should we still agree with Kiev, then is a change probably quite possible. One can with Papa just not plan long-term. 14 million are indeed at the present time no longer really a lot, but you would thus virtually finance the Austrian!
After the 15/16 season I was relatively certain that Papa could possibly change to England. But as there never arose rumors and he has not played a good preparation also according to Roger Schmidt, a change was laid almost shelved for me. But With a 14 million offer for a very injury prone defender, which will not be the first option, it comes naturally to ponder. I think the player types, Baby embodies terrific and seeketh such Fighter team. On when we actually still Dragovic should get, then I would worry for Papadopoulos. If we give the Greeks but, then I would definitely still for an right back!
Poof, 14 million for our injury prone Papa, the currently rather only centre defender Nr. 3 (with Dragovic would he only No.4) I would have no hesitation, with such an offer. Then bagging Dragovic And. (one could then Kiev certainly offer 2 million more, without embarrassing himself) As much as I have Papa, but on a season long downtimes I do not believe anymore. We could still Jedvaj. A class RV as you say, would then but actually very useful. So right but I do not believe it before, Stoke should not be missed, as injury-prone is Papa. Whether that would survive the Med.check? I actually think much of Papa, but also our transfer policy actually shows that we just so half plan with Papa ...
So at 14 million I would think for a second! So sorry for papa does, but he's hurt just too often! Possibly efforts may be made with the 14 million to Ginter! Can RV, DM and IV. Had me a chance!
I hope so that it remains reasonably injury free. He is a top alternative. The few games that he has made, he has again brought a special mentality into play. He also brings regular performance if he can play. With contract until 2020, the release in 1-2 years will not necessarily be much smaller.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 8:19:41 GMT
Not worth the risk.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 31, 2016 8:22:27 GMT
Leverkusen fans seem to think it'd be a good deal for them if there was any truth in it, with his injury record and their centre-half depth. But they're only quoting this one English source...... linkStoke will probably grind nearly 14 million offer for Papa.www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-news-live-arsenal-manchester-8517580?service=tablet&service=tablet&service=tablet&service=tablet Weiter below. Should we still agree with Kiev, then is a change probably quite possible. One can with Papa just not plan long-term. 14 million are indeed at the present time no longer really a lot, but you would thus virtually finance the Austrian!
After the 15/16 season I was relatively certain that Papa could possibly change to England. But as there never arose rumors and he has not played a good preparation also according to Roger Schmidt, a change was laid almost shelved for me. But With a 14 million offer for a very injury prone defender, which will not be the first option, it comes naturally to ponder. I think the player types, Baby embodies terrific and seeketh such Fighter team. On when we actually still Dragovic should get, then I would worry for Papadopoulos. If we give the Greeks but, then I would definitely still for an right back!
Poof, 14 million for our injury prone Papa, the currently rather only centre defender Nr. 3 (with Dragovic would he only No.4) I would have no hesitation, with such an offer. Then bagging Dragovic And. (one could then Kiev certainly offer 2 million more, without embarrassing himself) As much as I have Papa, but on a season long downtimes I do not believe anymore. We could still Jedvaj. A class RV as you say, would then but actually very useful. So right but I do not believe it before, Stoke should not be missed, as injury-prone is Papa. Whether that would survive the Med.check? I actually think much of Papa, but also our transfer policy actually shows that we just so half plan with Papa ...
So at 14 million I would think for a second! So sorry for papa does, but he's hurt just too often! Possibly efforts may be made with the 14 million to Ginter! Can RV, DM and IV. Had me a chance!
I hope so that it remains reasonably injury free. He is a top alternative. The few games that he has made, he has again brought a special mentality into play. He also brings regular performance if he can play. With contract until 2020, the release in 1-2 years will not necessarily be much smaller. How can his value (they bought him for £5 mil) have risen so dramatically - it doesn't make sense? If we're going to be putting that sort of money on the table, why don't just target Dragovic instead? Get Arnie to have a word.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jul 31, 2016 8:48:32 GMT
Hopefully he has a nickname or very very wide shoulders to fit his name on his shirt
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 8:50:32 GMT
How long before the John Lennon wannabes on here come up with a song for him? Imagine having his name on your shirt! Imagine Papadopoulos Playing for the Stoke Oh oh oooooh You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one
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Post by raythesailor on Jul 31, 2016 8:52:23 GMT
Yes. This looks like a good fit. The long-awaited Huth replacement. We need a stare like that for the Arsenal game at the Brit, sorry 365.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 31, 2016 8:53:16 GMT
Leverkusen fans seem to think it'd be a good deal for them if there was any truth in it, with his injury record and their centre-half depth. But they're only quoting this one English source...... linkStoke will probably grind nearly 14 million offer for Papa.www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-news-live-arsenal-manchester-8517580?service=tablet&service=tablet&service=tablet&service=tablet Weiter below. Should we still agree with Kiev, then is a change probably quite possible. One can with Papa just not plan long-term. 14 million are indeed at the present time no longer really a lot, but you would thus virtually finance the Austrian!
After the 15/16 season I was relatively certain that Papa could possibly change to England. But as there never arose rumors and he has not played a good preparation also according to Roger Schmidt, a change was laid almost shelved for me. But With a 14 million offer for a very injury prone defender, which will not be the first option, it comes naturally to ponder. I think the player types, Baby embodies terrific and seeketh such Fighter team. On when we actually still Dragovic should get, then I would worry for Papadopoulos. If we give the Greeks but, then I would definitely still for an right back!
Poof, 14 million for our injury prone Papa, the currently rather only centre defender Nr. 3 (with Dragovic would he only No.4) I would have no hesitation, with such an offer. Then bagging Dragovic And. (one could then Kiev certainly offer 2 million more, without embarrassing himself) As much as I have Papa, but on a season long downtimes I do not believe anymore. We could still Jedvaj. A class RV as you say, would then but actually very useful. So right but I do not believe it before, Stoke should not be missed, as injury-prone is Papa. Whether that would survive the Med.check? I actually think much of Papa, but also our transfer policy actually shows that we just so half plan with Papa ...
So at 14 million I would think for a second! So sorry for papa does, but he's hurt just too often! Possibly efforts may be made with the 14 million to Ginter! Can RV, DM and IV. Had me a chance!
I hope so that it remains reasonably injury free. He is a top alternative. The few games that he has made, he has again brought a special mentality into play. He also brings regular performance if he can play. With contract until 2020, the release in 1-2 years will not necessarily be much smaller. How can his value (they bought him for £5 mil) have risen so dramatically - it doesn't make sense? If we're going to be putting that sort of money on the table, why don't just target Dragovic instead? Get Arnie to have a word. I'd say we're far too sensible to throw that sort of money at them without some sort of conditions. It would make either to do a loan with option to buy or a fee of say 5m + additional extra fees per appearances. One big thing is how will he get past a medical?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 8:57:58 GMT
Looks like he means it. An Alan Bloor type. But . . . . seems like he's injured all the time - which is perhaps not so surprising. If he wasn't injury prone he'd be at one of Europe's better clubs. Is he worth the risk? If we didn't have such an injury prone squad and central defence as we do its a no brainer. But we do, so do we gamble? I'd probably say no. It's a good chunk of wedge to pay for someone who might be able to play half a season, if he's lucky, based on his stats for the last 3 seasons and I just don't think we can take that risk. Whereas for most places in the squad, some rotation is required (probably even beneficial), I think it is entirely desirable to have a CH pairing that can and will play together for 90%+ for the season. We already have a CH that seems a back twinge away from missing out a chunk of games, and another whose hamstrings like to go pop at least twice a season; I don't think we should be looking to get a third with such a poor record. He has talent and pedigree undoubtedly, but I just think it's too much of a gamble considering our other CH options.
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Post by lordb on Jul 31, 2016 9:04:18 GMT
What might be an issue is that he is only 6.ft , not the biggest for a centre half. We need somebody commanding in the air as the rest of the team seem to be shrinking. He's decent in the air. in fact he is an excellent all round defender. The issue is his injury record.
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 31, 2016 9:09:25 GMT
Strange link if true. Only seems to be on the Mirror's transfer blog, rather than the paper as such. Seems to have been an elite prospect at Schalke 3-4 years ago, attracting £15m+ bids when that still meant something! But his last 4 seasons have been positively Jack Wilshere-esque. Moved to Leverkusen last summer for a cut-price £5m and ran into more injury problems. It'd be a surprise if Leverkusen would let him go 1 yr into a 5-yr deal if he was fit. Their owners are massively rich. Although they do seem to have a couple of other good centre-backs - in a German international ,Tah , who was at the Euros, another Turkish centre-back Toprak who seems to be valued at 20m euros - and are in negotiations for another centre-half, Dragovic of Kiev - for 15m euros+ - which does kind of make you think something would be possible? Hell of an injury record though - and also seems to be reputed to be as mad as a box of frogs. Prefer to cut out the chain and bid 15m for dragovic
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jul 31, 2016 9:50:15 GMT
I hope we sign him just so we have Mama and Papa.
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Post by mrpickles on Jul 31, 2016 9:51:59 GMT
Strange link if true. Only seems to be on the Mirror's transfer blog, rather than the paper as such. Seems to have been an elite prospect at Schalke 3-4 years ago, attracting £15m+ bids when that still meant something! But his last 4 seasons have been positively Jack Wilshere-esque. Moved to Leverkusen last summer for a cut-price £5m and ran into more injury problems. It'd be a surprise if Leverkusen would let him go 1 yr into a 5-yr deal if he was fit. Their owners are massively rich. Although they do seem to have a couple of other good centre-backs - in a German international ,Tah , who was at the Euros, another Turkish centre-back Toprak who seems to be valued at 20m euros - and are in negotiations for another centre-half, Dragovic of Kiev - for 15m euros+ - which does kind of make you think something would be possible? Hell of an injury record though - and also seems to be reputed to be as mad as a box of frogs. Prefer to cut out the chain and bid 15m for dragovic Not as easy as it sounds mate. We'd be dealing with Kyiv's bellend of a chairman. Not sure I fancy all that bollocks again.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 31, 2016 9:54:20 GMT
Can you imagine Nige trying to pronounce his name in commentary?
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 31, 2016 9:56:51 GMT
He suffers from Injuries! So did Denis Smith.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 31, 2016 10:00:30 GMT
Seems to be a good defender at the right age too, but do we need another defender who will at maximum play 15-16 games per season? I would like us to sign a defender who could be a mainstay in the heart of our defence, not another crock!
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 31, 2016 10:14:16 GMT
Like huth wasnt to Leicester sometimes a gamble pays off
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 31, 2016 10:14:19 GMT
Prefer to cut out the chain and bid 15m for dragovic Not as easy as it sounds mate. We'd be dealing with Kyiv's bellend of a chairman. Not sure I fancy all that bollocks again. That's a good point actually Pickles.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 31, 2016 10:19:18 GMT
I guess a medical would give the club the best insight as to whether it would be an ongoing issue. He certainly looks like the type we need. Brave and gutsy. Not too big for a CB though.
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Post by roostershair on Jul 31, 2016 11:29:00 GMT
How long before the John Lennon wannabes on here come up with a song for him? Imagine having his name on your shirt! Imagine Papadopoulos Playing for the Stoke Oh oh oooooh You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one Hahaha. Class!
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 31, 2016 11:30:02 GMT
Prefer to cut out the chain and bid 15m for dragovic Not as easy as it sounds mate. We'd be dealing with Kyiv's bellend of a chairman. Not sure I fancy all that bollocks again. That's a good point actually. I hear the sound of a double swoop 🤔
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 11:32:52 GMT
Like huth wasnt to Leicester sometimes a gamble pays off Huth wasn't injury riddled for...5 years? And cost a fraction of the £12m touted here. We don't need another injury risk, we need a stable back line.
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Post by Mendicant on Jul 31, 2016 11:49:59 GMT
I ask this as a mere fan, and a not particularly smart one at that (I once bet on Notts County to win the Championship and they finished bottom), but what method is there to the apparent madness of buying injury-prone defenders when we have had injury crises with our current defenders?
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jul 31, 2016 11:55:28 GMT
Is he in a wheelchair in that clip?
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Post by sportsman on Jul 31, 2016 11:57:43 GMT
If he are after him and he passes a medical, why are people wetting their pants?
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 31, 2016 12:04:24 GMT
Like huth wasnt to Leicester sometimes a gamble pays off Huth wasn't injury riddled for...5 years? And cost a fraction of the £12m touted here. We don't need another injury risk, we need a stable back line. What im saying is its all relative if huth had a lot of injuries in a short period before we sold him then has an injury free season, it can be training regimes it can be diet it can ne their driving position in a car it can be sheer unluckyness then all of a sudden no injuries for 2 years. As another poster alluded too if they pass a medical thats it if the clubs willing pay look at the delap scenario though agree sign a player who then breaks his leg straight away what can you do.
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