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Post by clarkeda on Jul 14, 2016 19:47:27 GMT
This kongolo link is interesting
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Post by turfite on Jul 14, 2016 20:07:11 GMT
Last I read Leicester were offering 15m, or something like that, which I believe would be more than we would be willing to offer. It could be a likely deal, apparently he wants the move to Leicester, plus he's played here before on loan meaning he knows some of our lads. Aye you could have probably bought him at that time for a lot less than the £3 million we paid for him later on. Most of your fellow fans must be seething. Market Leaders.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 14, 2016 20:18:23 GMT
If you could guarantee me that shawcross and muniesa would be fit for 38 league games I'd take that pairing without a moments hesitation. Muni really isn't good enough at CB, not in this league. In my opinion, alongside Ryan Shawcross, he's more than good enough. Muniesa's problems are less to do with ability and more to do with fitness. Our results with Muniesa alongside Shawcross speak for themselves as well. It's something like 1 defeat in 15 games.
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Post by Northy on Jul 14, 2016 20:40:43 GMT
Everyone is focussing on signing strikers and wingers. Why not at least one centre half? Our defence was shocking last season and really need to bring someone in before the boro game because we can't start next season how we finished last season. Or is it just me who thinks this? Who is this everyone you speak of? Im not and so is my wife
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Jul 14, 2016 21:51:31 GMT
Muni really isn't good enough at CB, not in this league. In my opinion, alongside Ryan Shawcross, he's more than good enough. Muniesa's problems are less to do with ability and more to do with fitness. Our results with Muniesa alongside Shawcross speak for themselves as well. It's something like 1 defeat in 15 games. Since 2013-14, As a centre half, not fullback, he's started 9 times alongside Ryan, and he's 3-3-3.
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Post by kustokie on Jul 14, 2016 22:01:54 GMT
When he was fit, he played well along side Wolly and Shawcross. For me this is the most pressing need because there are so many question marks about every player in squad at that position. Shawcross and Muniesa very questionable fitness, Wolly very questionable ability, Teixiera not up to it, Wilson and Cameron accidents waiting to happen.
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Post by kustokie on Jul 14, 2016 22:06:36 GMT
In my opinion, alongside Ryan Shawcross, he's more than good enough. Muniesa's problems are less to do with ability and more to do with fitness. Our results with Muniesa alongside Shawcross speak for themselves as well. It's something like 1 defeat in 15 games. Since 2013-14, As a centre half, not fullback, he's started 9 times alongside Ryan, and he's 3-3-3. Stoke were 29-18-29 over the past two season. So 3-3-3 is par for the course. What's concerning is the fact he only played 9 times in two years at his preferred position.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Jul 14, 2016 22:14:15 GMT
Since 2013-14, As a centre half, not fullback, he's started 9 times alongside Ryan, and he's 3-3-3. Stoke were 29-18-29 over the past two season. So 3-3-3 is par for the course. What's concerning is the fact he only played 9 times in two years at his preferred position. 9 times alongside shawcross, he's also had quite a few in the centre with Wollscheid and Cameron.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 22:26:25 GMT
Muni really isn't good enough at CB, not in this league. In my opinion, alongside Ryan Shawcross, he's more than good enough. Muniesa's problems are less to do with ability and more to do with fitness. Our results with Muniesa alongside Shawcross speak for themselves as well. It's something like 1 defeat in 15 games. I do like his attitude but I think we'd be better off getting in a Huth like old school defender and use muni as cover only, a solid defence could see us break the top eight and I can't see muni being a solid defender, just my opinion though.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jul 14, 2016 22:32:06 GMT
If we aren't buying for defence then Eric alongside Ryan at lcb and Muniesa left back'll do for me.
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Post by ashleyscfc on Jul 14, 2016 22:37:29 GMT
If we aren't buying for defence then Eric alongside Ryan at lcb and Muniesa left back'll do for me. intrigued to see it
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Post by kustokie on Jul 15, 2016 3:00:26 GMT
Stoke were 29-18-29 over the past two season. So 3-3-3 is par for the course. What's concerning is the fact he only played 9 times in two years at his preferred position. 9 times alongside shawcross, he's also had quite a few in the centre with Wollscheid and Cameron. I seem to recall he played well alongside either Shawcross or Wollscheidt. The combination that didn't work so well was Wollscheidt and Shawcross.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Jul 15, 2016 4:09:32 GMT
9 times alongside shawcross, he's also had quite a few in the centre with Wollscheid and Cameron. I seem to recall he played well alongside either Shawcross or Wollscheidt. The combination that didn't work so well was Wollscheidt and Shawcross. For me it's varied. The first couple of times Shawcross and Wollscheid played together it was a disaster, then Christmas to February, or when Ryan got hurt again, they were dominant. Then when Ryan came back, it was like the first few times they played together, but a lot of their problems were exacerbated by how shitty the goalkeeping was. All in all, Muniesa didn't play next to Shawcross at all last season (except as a fullback), so he does have that going for him. But when he did play centre half for us last season he was unable to cope with the physical demands, both height and strength. (I know, I know, Cannavaro and Puyol weren't very tall! But they were very strong.) Unless we do sign a new centre half, I think we will see the same back line as we did against West Ham except Johnson in for Cameron.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2016 4:44:43 GMT
I dont think weve heard the last of shawcross and his injury woes. Hope im wrong. I'd find it inexcusable if we found our selves in a position where we don't go out and buy a top centre back who is going to at least push the current two. If we had a bought one in last season and he covered for shawcross whilst he was out we would definitely have had a different season.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 15, 2016 7:10:31 GMT
We definitely need one.
Barring Shawcross they're either error prone or knackered and even he could put in the latter category (lets hope not).
We need 3 first teamers, a centre back, defensive midfielder and striker.
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