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Post by spitthedog on Jul 9, 2016 18:01:21 GMT
Definitely serious competition for the Premiership I reckon. Paying crazy wages out there.
I work with a lot of Chinese students, and there's tremendous excitement about this League amongst them.
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Post by werrington on Jul 9, 2016 18:12:31 GMT
Each team will face around 3-4 players who've cost big money
The rest will be mediocre non league equivalent Chinese so it will offer nothing compared to any European league ....it's all about the money
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2016 18:25:08 GMT
The only way it could rival the Premiership is if the whole of Asian champions league improved, otherwise it will just be an overpaid MLS.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jul 9, 2016 18:40:09 GMT
Definitely serious competition for the Premiership I reckon. Paying crazy wages out there. I work with a lot of Chinese students, and there's tremendous excitement about this League amongst them. You reckon completely wrong. It's a shit league with a few mediocre players from average European clubs dotted around. It's nothing more than an 'MLS of the Far East'. Outside of the dozen or so players that fans of FIFA & Football Manager might have heard of their league is filled with nobodies. Even if they started having full starting elevens of 'big name' players you'd still be hard pressed to find a single footballer who'd chose to sign for one of their clubs over signing for a club with the History of the European heavyweights. The Chinese students you know can get as excited as they want, but if you give someone the option of signing for Shanghai or Manchester United there's only one option they're picking.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 9, 2016 18:48:27 GMT
Kante rumoured to be subject to a £35million bid from China.
Nobody turns up and watches it live do they?
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Post by turtlefox on Jul 9, 2016 19:20:25 GMT
It could happen though couldn't it. The Premier League has been built on money, with the building blocks of football culture underneath it.China hasn't got that foundation but the bubble over here is bound to burst at sometime. Nothing goes on forever.
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Post by werrington on Jul 9, 2016 19:23:16 GMT
It could happen though couldn't it. The Premier League has been built on money, with the building blocks of football culture underneath it.China hasn't got that foundation but the bubble over here is bound to burst at sometime. Nothing goes on forever. It still wouldn't make the Chinese league more interesting though would it They have no history or structure ....just about 10 teams battling it out with overpaid mercenaries and Evo Stik standard alongside them
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Post by turtlefox on Jul 9, 2016 19:40:12 GMT
It could happen though couldn't it. The Premier League has been built on money, with the building blocks of football culture underneath it.China hasn't got that foundation but the bubble over here is bound to burst at sometime. Nothing goes on forever. It still wouldn't make the Chinese league more interesting though would it They have no history or structure ....just about 10 teams battling it out with overpaid mercenaries and Evo Stik standard alongside them When footballers wont take a pay cut or not a sharp one atleast, to play in the premier League, anything is possible.
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Post by innocentbystander on Jul 9, 2016 21:21:21 GMT
"These crappy Japanese motorbikes will never be as good as the old Triumph speed twin"
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jul 9, 2016 21:48:50 GMT
They should stick with the kind of stuff they know best....Something like say.......
Takeshi's Castle!!!
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Post by Sfance on Jul 9, 2016 21:51:14 GMT
Exactly! Anyone who would bet money that the development of the Chinese game isn't going to accelerate much faster than the MLS has been able to do would be foolish. I was in China for the first couple of rounds of Euro16. The level of enthusiasm was astounding. I work with deaf kids and they all had their favorite to win. Take your heads out of the sand.
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Post by Sfance on Jul 9, 2016 21:52:31 GMT
That's "exactly" to Mr. Bystander.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2016 21:53:37 GMT
It's not going to be a rival even if the football standard becomes equivalent. It take years and years for all the less obvious things that make a league great to develop. Over here you've got all the local rivalries and competitive rivalries, many of which have true historical significance such as the Manchester/Liverpool shipping canal history and general wider cultural rivalry between those cities, Arsenal moving into Spurs territory, Millwall/West Ham docklands, all the club in the West Midlands etc etc. Is there really ever going to be a point in our lifetime where Beijing has dozens upon dozens of professional clubs like London or Buenos Aires?
You have similar in the Bundesliga, La Liga, etc. Cultural history cannot be manufactured. It can only be earnt by the slow passage of time, and by a populace that has been completely besotted with the game for a century or more. That's why China and even MLS will never be a competitor to the European leagues (in our lifetimes at least) even if they are awash with money.
If the money bubble burst in England and we returned to a time where the majority of the focus was from within, ask yourself would that diminish football in the minds of those who live here? We'd lose the attention of a lot of people in the world but I'd still go to games, fathers would still take their sons, old ladies would still cheer on the lads like they were doing three quarters of a century earlier. Nothing that actually matters would change.
edit: arguably it would get better ;p
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2016 21:58:31 GMT
If the money bubble burst in England and we returned to a time where the majority of the focus was from within, ask yourself would that diminish football in the minds of those who live here? We'd lose the attention of a lot of people in the world but I'd still go to games, fathers would still take their sons, old ladies would still cheer on the lads like they were doing three quarters of a century earlier. Nothing that actually matters would change. edit: arguably it would get better ;p It'd get a lot better for the average working class dedicated non-JCL supporter. Back to cold pies, overflowing open sewers, ramshackle grounds with character, and chairmen who made it rich from scrap metal dealerships and chains of takeaways. No more Russian white collar criminal oligarchs and know nothing oriental frontmen knobheads.
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