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Post by jbdotco on Jul 6, 2016 17:56:18 GMT
Apparently as of next season any financial outgoings are subsidised by the fans, so you're right to be cautious of the transfer fee. Won't be dipping your hands into my pockets Mr. Scholes, no Siree.
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Post by biglad180 on Jul 6, 2016 18:30:30 GMT
like to know how many people have seen him regularly to be able say he is worth that money? yes the transfer market has gone daft t
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Post by FriendlyLCFC on Jul 6, 2016 19:15:10 GMT
I know we were interested but didn't realise Stoke were too. Both attractive clubs to move to. We've got CL football next season which is magnificent in attracting players, but also players of very high calibre. However, Stoke are an attractive proposition as well, in the fact you are an established Premier League outfit, have a solid good manager in Hughes and he'd be around some quality players, for instance Shawcross who would develop his game greatly, as would Morgan and Huth with their experience individually at centre half. Keane is a talented English CB, I remember his loan spell at Leicester in about 2012/13, and he was decent then. Seemed to have the ability to pick a pass and come out of the defence often to move forward. As mentioned, at set pieces he is very good. From what I've seen he's developed even more at Burnley, and that progression would contiune with a move to either Stoke or Leicester who have PL proven class. We seem intent on his signature but we will wait and see. Leicester are well stocked at CB at the moment but we'd buying some excellent potential in Keane I feel. Although different players/circumstances, Everton purchased English CB John Stones from Barnsley who again showed great potential and is now a comfortable PL defender. Both Stoke and Leicester I think are trying to seek the talent now before he could be worth double his price tag. Who is the current cover for Huth and Morgan? I thought it was that Wasilewski fella: not what I'd call Premier League class. Yeah we have Wasilewski, who although 35/36 years old, is still a solid option for us. We also have Luis Hernandez who we signed this summer from Sporting Gijon. Alongside him, Liam Moore and Yohan Benalouane. Liam is a Leicester lad, and Yohan we signed from Fiorentina I think. Both haven't featured regularly but good enough CB's IMO. And finally Daniel Amartey who we signed from Copenhagen, he can play CB/CM/RB. Keane could be a good signing for us though because we do not know who could move on this summer defensively. I mean hopefully all of them stay if they are happy to but other clubs might offer more regular game time, we'll see.
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Post by FriendlyLCFC on Jul 6, 2016 19:17:26 GMT
I know we were interested but didn't realise Stoke were too. Both attractive clubs to move to. We've got CL football next season which is magnificent in attracting players, but also players of very high calibre. However, Stoke are an attractive proposition as well, in the fact you are an established Premier League outfit, have a solid good manager in Hughes and he'd be around some quality players, for instance Shawcross who would develop his game greatly, as would Morgan and Huth with their experience individually at centre half. Keane is a talented English CB, I remember his loan spell at Leicester in about 2012/13, and he was decent then. Seemed to have the ability to pick a pass and come out of the defence often to move forward. As mentioned, at set pieces he is very good. From what I've seen he's developed even more at Burnley, and that progression would contiune with a move to either Stoke or Leicester who have PL proven class. We seem intent on his signature but we will wait and see. Leicester are well stocked at CB at the moment but we'd buying some excellent potential in Keane I feel. Although different players/circumstances, Everton purchased English CB John Stones from Barnsley who again showed great potential and is now a comfortable PL defender. Both Stoke and Leicester I think are trying to seek the talent now before he could be worth double his price tag. You're too polite fella if both clubs are interested he'd be mad not to join Leicester and sample Champions League football..... Yeah probably right. Just got a soft spot for Stoke, but not just that, you are a genuinely good club to join for prospective players.
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Post by FriendlyLCFC on Jul 6, 2016 19:21:10 GMT
I know we were interested but didn't realise Stoke were too. Both attractive clubs to move to. We've got CL football next season which is magnificent in attracting players, but also players of very high calibre. However, Stoke are an attractive proposition as well, in the fact you are an established Premier League outfit, have a solid good manager in Hughes and he'd be around some quality players, for instance Shawcross who would develop his game greatly, as would Morgan and Huth with their experience individually at centre half. Keane is a talented English CB, I remember his loan spell at Leicester in about 2012/13, and he was decent then. Seemed to have the ability to pick a pass and come out of the defence often to move forward. As mentioned, at set pieces he is very good. From what I've seen he's developed even more at Burnley, and that progression would contiune with a move to either Stoke or Leicester who have PL proven class. We seem intent on his signature but we will wait and see. Leicester are well stocked at CB at the moment but we'd buying some excellent potential in Keane I feel. Although different players/circumstances, Everton purchased English CB John Stones from Barnsley who again showed great potential and is now a comfortable PL defender. Both Stoke and Leicester I think are trying to seek the talent now before he could be worth double his price tag. I nthat sense he would be a perfect foil for Shawcross. Both are okay on the ball but it will allow us to be more solid. I love Muniesa, but I have worries over him being seemingly prone to injury, and Wolly... There is something amiss, and I want him to prove how good he is (and is German) but something is missing that stops him being a "great"(i can't put my finger on it). Yeah I think Keane would really learn from Shawcross, who I think is one of the best CB's in the Premier League. Whether it's Leicester or Stoke, we both have defenders who have valuable experience to help to develop Keane's game. Keane is a decent CB though, so we'd be buying a good defender to start with which always helps of course.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 6, 2016 23:35:16 GMT
Burnley need to be prepared. Two goes in the Prem and both times they didn't invest and fizzled out meekly. They need to make a stand to reassure supporters they want to give it a good go. Don't sell Keane until a replacement is all ready and signed.
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Post by kustokie on Jul 6, 2016 23:57:44 GMT
Are you suggesting that we take Huth back when Keane signs for Leicester. We could a whole lot worse. A bit like Big John returning from Sheffield Wednesday. No I am not. I am curious why he's leaving Burnley. Has he decided to not renew his contract?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 7, 2016 0:00:40 GMT
Leicester have champions league football only for the group stage, they are going to struggle this season imo and are a no better option than us Mid table without champs league or mid table with (assuming Leicester drop a bit), If it was me it wouldn't be a difficult decision.
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Post by kustokie on Jul 7, 2016 0:01:26 GMT
I see from Wiki that he's from Stockport, so should have family in the area. Although Leicester is not that far.
He has a twin brother. Is he any good?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 7:35:07 GMT
The transfer market is not so much 'crazy' but instead a reflection of real economics at work. Put more money in to a system and prices increase. You don't get more for your money.
As such, a £6m or £7m player, especially an English one, 5 years ago is easily a £20m player now. Selling clubs are in a far better position now because they know an extra few million is nothing really for a player if the buying team really want them. But, of course, this gets recycled when the selling club come to buy a replacement.
Foreign clubs also know of the huge influx of money into the Prem and will also, understandably, want an extra slice of pie.
The only real winners from having more money are the players and agents.
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Post by lordb on Jul 7, 2016 8:15:08 GMT
I see from Wiki that he's from Stockport, so should have family in the area. Although Leicester is not that far. He has a twin brother. Is he any good? Not really
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Post by Staying up for Grandadstokey on Jul 7, 2016 8:27:10 GMT
I know we were interested but didn't realise Stoke were too. Both attractive clubs to move to. We've got CL football next season which is magnificent in attracting players, but also players of very high calibre. However, Stoke are an attractive proposition as well, in the fact you are an established Premier League outfit, have a solid good manager in Hughes and he'd be around some quality players, for instance Shawcross who would develop his game greatly, as would Morgan and Huth with their experience individually at centre half. Keane is a talented English CB, I remember his loan spell at Leicester in about 2012/13, and he was decent then. Seemed to have the ability to pick a pass and come out of the defence often to move forward. As mentioned, at set pieces he is very good. From what I've seen he's developed even more at Burnley, and that progression would contiune with a move to either Stoke or Leicester who have PL proven class. We seem intent on his signature but we will wait and see. Leicester are well stocked at CB at the moment but we'd buying some excellent potential in Keane I feel. Although different players/circumstances, Everton purchased English CB John Stones from Barnsley who again showed great potential and is now a comfortable PL defender. Both Stoke and Leicester I think are trying to seek the talent now before he could be worth double his price tag. I nthat sense he would be a perfect foil for Shawcross. Both are okay on the ball but it will allow us to be more solid. I love Muniesa, but I have worries over him being seemingly prone to injury, and Wolly... There is something amiss, and I want him to prove how good he is (and is German) but something is missing that stops him being a "great"(i can't put my finger on it). Well I'll put my finger on it (so to speak) he is to bloody slow and worse still,he wears gloves!!
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Post by malteser68 on Jul 7, 2016 9:26:31 GMT
Not seen it posted elsewhere but Michael Keane has turned down a new contract offer at Burnley and privately, has expressed a desire to leave. Leicester and Stoke are the front runners for his signature with Stoke reportedly having already had 3 bids rejected dating back to January this year and Leicester having bid 15m. Keane was more than interested in joining us until Leicester entered the race. He's played for Leicester on loan before which, together with Champions League football, makes them favourites for his signature. Charlie Adam is strongly rumoured to be interesting Burnley and we are potentially trying to leverage a deal to include cash + Adam for Keane. [bra
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Post by malteser68 on Jul 7, 2016 9:30:41 GMT
'Keane looked more than interested in joining us until Leicester entered the race'
This all goes to show how right and correct I was in rooting against Leicester winning the premier league
Leicester automatically fish in the same pond as us but now they are the bigger guns since they play in the champions league and are the league winners
Hope that the Leicester asslickers on this board are enjoying the fruits of their Ina inanities
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 7, 2016 9:42:58 GMT
'Keane looked more than interested in joining us until Leicester entered the race' This all goes to show how right and correct I was in rooting against Leicester winning the premier league Leicester automatically fish in the same pond as us but now they are the bigger guns since they play in the champions league and are the league winners Hope that the Leicester asslickers on this board are enjoying the fruits of their Ina inanities So Stoke fans helped Leicester win the title as well through good vibes did they? Add us to the great conspiracy along with the FA and Lineker.
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Post by malteser68 on Jul 7, 2016 10:12:24 GMT
'Keane looked more than interested in joining us until Leicester entered the race' This all goes to show how right and correct I was in rooting against Leicester winning the premier league Leicester automatically fish in the same pond as us but now they are the bigger guns since they play in the champions league and are the league winners Hope that the Leicester asslickers on this board are enjoying the fruits of their Ina inanities So Stoke fans helped Leicester win the title as well through good vibes did they? Add us to the great conspiracy along with the FA and Lineker. That's not the point at all The point is how stupid and short-sighted some people can be
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Post by metalhead on Jul 7, 2016 10:17:36 GMT
'Keane looked more than interested in joining us until Leicester entered the race' This all goes to show how right and correct I was in rooting against Leicester winning the premier league Leicester automatically fish in the same pond as us but now they are the bigger guns since they play in the champions league and are the league winners Hope that the Leicester asslickers on this board are enjoying the fruits of their Ina inanities So Stoke fans helped Leicester win the title as well through good vibes did they? Add us to the great conspiracy along with the FA and Lineker. Why is turnip Taylor your avatar?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 7, 2016 10:40:53 GMT
So Stoke fans helped Leicester win the title as well through good vibes did they? Add us to the great conspiracy along with the FA and Lineker. Why is turnip Taylor your avatar? It was my Euros avatar. Imagine change it before the season starts.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 7, 2016 10:42:37 GMT
So Stoke fans helped Leicester win the title as well through good vibes did they? Add us to the great conspiracy along with the FA and Lineker. That's not the point at all The point is how stupid and short-sighted some people can be It's nothing to do with being stupid or short-sighted. The idea I'm supposed to cheer for the status quo makes my soul sick. It's ok to enjoy football without there having to be a Stoke connection at all times.
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Post by metalhead on Jul 7, 2016 11:05:56 GMT
Why is turnip Taylor your avatar? It was my Euros avatar. Imagine change it before the season starts. Should be an owl really
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Post by malteser68 on Jul 7, 2016 13:42:47 GMT
That's not the point at all The point is how stupid and short-sighted some people can be It's nothing to do with being stupid or short-sighted. The idea I'm supposed to cheer for the status quo makes my soul sick. It's ok to enjoy football without there having to be a Stoke connection at all times. If you're cheering on a minnow club to win the premier league there clearly is a 'Stoke connection' If you want to take on the status quo you can always cheer for Dundee Utd to win the Scottish premier league, or something if the sort But cheering on a direct competitor of ours with the obvious consequence that it is now a bigger fish in the same pond which our team swims in, I'm sorry but for me that's extremely stupid and short-sighted
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Post by thestatusquo on Jul 7, 2016 13:47:15 GMT
It's nothing to do with being stupid or short-sighted. The idea I'm supposed to cheer for the status quo makes my soul sick. It's ok to enjoy football without there having to be a Stoke connection at all times. If you're cheering on a minnow club to win the premier league there clearly is a 'Stoke connection' If you want to take on the status quo you can always cheer for Dundee Utd to win the Scottish premier league, or something if the sort But cheering on a direct competitor of ours with the obvious consequence that it is now a bigger fish in the same pond which our team swims in, I'm sorry but for me that's extremely stupid and short-sighted Leave me out of it !!
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 7, 2016 13:49:07 GMT
It's nothing to do with being stupid or short-sighted. The idea I'm supposed to cheer for the status quo makes my soul sick. It's ok to enjoy football without there having to be a Stoke connection at all times. If you're cheering on a minnow club to win the premier league there clearly is a 'Stoke connection' If you want to take on the status quo you can always cheer for Dundee Utd to win the Scottish premier league, or something if the sort But cheering on a direct competitor of ours with the obvious consequence that it is now a bigger fish in the same pond which our team swims in, I'm sorry but for me that's extremely stupid and short-sighted I can still hope the big boys get one in the eye regardless of who is a 'direct competitor'. They represent hope for the rest of us, after it was a closed shop for years. If you can't recognise that, it isn't me who's short-sighted. But by all means get behind, Arsene, Jose and the boys next season and cross your fingers that the soulless procession of the wealthiest resumes next season.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 7, 2016 14:11:18 GMT
It's nothing to do with being stupid or short-sighted. The idea I'm supposed to cheer for the status quo makes my soul sick. It's ok to enjoy football without there having to be a Stoke connection at all times. If you're cheering on a minnow club to win the premier league there clearly is a 'Stoke connection' If you want to take on the status quo you can always cheer for Dundee Utd to win the Scottish premier league, or something if the sort But cheering on a direct competitor of ours with the obvious consequence that it is now a bigger fish in the same pond which our team swims in, I'm sorry but for me that's extremely stupid and short-sighted Ready for the new season? Your fist games are away to Bournemouth home to Liverpool home to Sunderland and home to West Ham. Apart from the Sunderland one all on telly I think. Let's hope the big boys all maintain the status quo eh? No space for a soul in this game.
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Post by malteser68 on Jul 7, 2016 19:31:53 GMT
If you're cheering on a minnow club to win the premier league there clearly is a 'Stoke connection' If you want to take on the status quo you can always cheer for Dundee Utd to win the Scottish premier league, or something if the sort But cheering on a direct competitor of ours with the obvious consequence that it is now a bigger fish in the same pond which our team swims in, I'm sorry but for me that's extremely stupid and short-sighted I can still hope the big boys get one in the eye regardless of who is a 'direct competitor'. They represent hope for the rest of us, after it was a closed shop for years. If you can't recognise that, it isn't me who's short-sighted. But by all means get behind, Arsene, Jose and the boys next season and cross your fingers that the soulless procession of the wealthiest resumes next season. I sure will The big teams will always be ahead of us So their success does not bother me a bit But the success of smaller teams who overtake us in reality means a failure for Stoke And if you can't understand that then you need to get the space between your ears checked
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 7, 2016 19:34:45 GMT
I can still hope the big boys get one in the eye regardless of who is a 'direct competitor'. They represent hope for the rest of us, after it was a closed shop for years. If you can't recognise that, it isn't me who's short-sighted. But by all means get behind, Arsene, Jose and the boys next season and cross your fingers that the soulless procession of the wealthiest resumes next season. I sure will The big teams will always be ahead of us So their success does not bother me a bit But the success of smaller teams who overtake us in reality means a failure for Stoke And if you can't understand that then you need to get the space between your ears checked 1) It doesn't necessarily mean that at all. 2) Your version of football is hideously depressing to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 19:42:28 GMT
So
is this lard arse coming or not ?
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Post by potterspele on Jul 7, 2016 20:14:31 GMT
I can still hope the big boys get one in the eye regardless of who is a 'direct competitor'. They represent hope for the rest of us, after it was a closed shop for years. If you can't recognise that, it isn't me who's short-sighted. But by all means get behind, Arsene, Jose and the boys next season and cross your fingers that the soulless procession of the wealthiest resumes next season. I sure will The big teams will always be ahead of us So their success does not bother me a bit But the success of smaller teams who overtake us in reality means a failure for Stoke And if you can't understand that then you need to get the space between your ears checked Such a sad view of football. For one season the majority of fans finally had a horse to back that wasn't horribly predictable and wholly financially motivated and you can't just enjoy it because it means we might get pipped to the post to a defender from Burnley. Football is just a dull grind with that pragmatic a mindset. I choose to see Leicester's success as a beacon of hope that occasionally can still offer a surprise or two and if it means we miss out on Michael Keane for it then so be it.
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Post by kustokie on Jul 7, 2016 20:26:06 GMT
Centre half is not only the most important position on a football pitch, it is the area we are weakest. If we have let Tomkins slip away, we must have someone else lined up. This question of what is the most important position is an interesting one and I'd be interested in other people's opinions. I coach kids and at the beginning of the season I always ask them all "what's the most important position?"F because they all want to play CF. The older kids know that the answer they are supposed to give is "the position I'm playing". Also, when they join the club around aged 9 I try to start with the most skillful players at the back so they get the idea that defense is just as important as midfield and forward. Some teams tend to put the weaker kids in defense which is a bad idea - better to put them up front where they can't get you into trouble.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jul 13, 2016 12:05:10 GMT
LEICESTER PREPARE THIRD KEANE BID
Leicester City are planning on making a third and final bid for Burnley defender Michael Keane, according to Sky sources.
The Foxes' second offer was for around £11m and we're being told the player wants to move to the King Power this summer.
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