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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jun 24, 2016 11:11:15 GMT
Motion of no confidence issued.
Being reported on BBC and Sky News.
Lodged by Margaret Hodge.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 24, 2016 11:20:38 GMT
Motion of no confidence issued. Being reported on BBC and Sky News. Lodged by Margaret Hodge. Motion of no principals confirmed, Corbyn is dead duck was as soon as he backed remain. Loving this week the peoples week.  |
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Post by codeye on Jun 24, 2016 11:21:44 GMT
We could do that for both labour and conservative parties .
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 24, 2016 11:25:27 GMT
Civil War by the end of the day, Armageddon this time nxt FridayXx
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jun 24, 2016 11:29:45 GMT
Europe out. Cameron out. Corbyn out. All we need now is all the Arsenal players to come out.  |
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Post by stockportstokie on Jun 24, 2016 11:47:29 GMT
I'd love a Corbyn government now we're outside of the EU. He should've stuck to his instincts regarding EU but he probably thought he'd be ousted if he backed leave, no one really believed we'd vote out.
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Post by spitthedog on Jun 24, 2016 13:09:54 GMT
Yeah....lets replace all leaders with someone who is equally inept or worse......Great use of energy and resources!!!!
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Post by salopstick on Jun 24, 2016 13:14:28 GMT
His lack of integrity sharpened those knives.
If labour embraced leave, followed their electorate then he had a great chance of being next PM
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Post by crowey on Jun 24, 2016 13:34:54 GMT
... Does/did anybody really think that Jeremy Corbyn stood a chance of being elected?
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 24, 2016 13:39:28 GMT
... Does/did anybody really think that Jeremy Corbyn stood a chance of being elected? Most of the **************s and of course our resident chief apologist ALF, Dianne Abbott maybe or is that he once stood erected when she was rutting in a field with him  |
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Post by blurtonboy on Jun 24, 2016 13:57:33 GMT
Motion of no confidence issued. Being reported on BBC and Sky News. Lodged by Margaret Hodge. Weakest labour leader since Michael Foot, but due too his name, at least he had a leg too stand on. |
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Post by thevoid on Jun 24, 2016 14:15:00 GMT
A non-entity promoted well above his skillset. I said it all along and now it's been proven.
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Post by robstokie on Jun 24, 2016 15:24:50 GMT
He really is useless. As I have always thought, and as last nights results showed, Corbyn is out of touch with traditional Labour voters. The only reason he got in in the first place was through the support of the hard-left, by sucking up to the unions who managed to scare enough members into taking advantage of the cheap membership offer in order to vote for him and through his middle class champagne socialist chums who don't have a bleeding clue what traditional Labour voters stand for or believe in.
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Post by algor on Jun 24, 2016 19:19:28 GMT
I am no Labour supporter, far from it but I am finding this very interesting. Lot's of Labour MP's and old guards like Blair and Mandy saying that Labour supporters haven't had it made clear to them what Labours and Corbyn's position was. I think they are wrong.
Seeing as two thirds of Labour strong holds voted leave maybe the Labour supporters are making it clear to the Labour party what their position is!
Just a thought.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 24, 2016 19:23:27 GMT
Andy Burnham at the hundredth time of asking? he's always up for Labour leader.
Edit, it'll probably be Theresa May won't it?
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Post by salopstick on Jun 24, 2016 19:29:14 GMT
Andy Burnham at the hundredth time of asking? he's always up for Labour leader. Edit, it'll probably be Theresa May won't it? If she defects yes mate |
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Post by trentvale68 on Jun 24, 2016 22:38:17 GMT
Andy Burnham at the hundredth time of asking? he's always up for Labour leader. Edit, it'll probably be Theresa May won't it? Always seemed like THE outstanding candidate for me
Certainly electable, seems pretty switched on, can cross boundaries
Did a brilliant job for the 96
Could unite the party and really challenge the Cons
Sadly it wont happen, the hard line Marxists and Union gangsters will pick YET another in the mould of Ed & Jeremy
All could have been avoided if theyd picked the other Milliband fella...
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 25, 2016 5:18:55 GMT
Andy Burnham at the hundredth time of asking? he's always up for Labour leader. Edit, it'll probably be Theresa May won't it? Always seemed like THE outstanding candidate for me
Certainly electable, seems pretty switched on, can cross boundaries
Did a brilliant job for the 96
Could unite the party and really challenge the Cons
Sadly it wont happen, the hard line Marxists and Union gangsters will pick YET another in the mould of Ed & Jeremy
All could have been avoided if theyd picked the other Milliband fella...
Corbyn was democratically elected. Arguably the most democratically elected political leader of all time. Just goes to show how useless democracy is. |
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jun 25, 2016 7:37:10 GMT
The Parliamentary Labour Party, should have a no confidence vote for itself. When they loose, most of them should join the Conservative Party, where they belong.
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Post by themistocles on Jun 25, 2016 7:52:51 GMT
The Parliamentary Labour Party, should have a no confidence vote for itself. When they loose, most of them should join the Conservative Party, where they belong. You don't think their left wing enough? That's their problem in the first place and why their votes are abandoning then |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Jun 25, 2016 8:01:31 GMT
A non-entity promoted well above his skillset. I said it all along and now it's been proven. Couldn't agree more! They say democracy is a good thing but the Labour party proves the old adage that you can have too much of a good thing!  |
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Post by chuffedstokie on Jun 25, 2016 8:14:48 GMT
No need for UKIP now.
Tories leaderless.
Labour fractured almost beyond repair.
Leaves us with the Greens.
They run the show from some nice offices in Bournemouth.
Well, it's an option.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Jun 25, 2016 8:52:51 GMT
No need for UKIP now. Tories leaderless. Labour fractured almost beyond repair. Leaves us with the Greens. They run the show from some nice offices in Bournemouth. Well, it's an option. Bournemouth for the 'Greens'? Wouldn't Brussels be more appropriate? |
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Post by Waggy on Jun 25, 2016 8:58:21 GMT
No need for UKIP now. Tories leaderless. Labour fractured almost beyond repair. Leaves us with the Greens. They run the show from some nice offices in Bournemouth. Well, it's an option. We need a tough prime minister . Not a thatcher that deposists ( poo) on its own folk. We need a thatcher type mentality but one that PROTECTS our own and can stand up against the cretins of the world eg putin |
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Post by chuffedstokie on Jun 25, 2016 9:02:09 GMT
No need for UKIP now. Tories leaderless. Labour fractured almost beyond repair. Leaves us with the Greens. They run the show from some nice offices in Bournemouth. Well, it's an option. We need a tough prime minister . Not a thatcher that deposists ( poo) on its own folk. We need a thatcher type mentality but one that PROTECTS our own and can stand up against the cretins of the world eg putin If we could get someone to match that job description you'd have me on side in a flash. Probably a lot more as well. |
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Post by Waggy on Jun 25, 2016 9:07:03 GMT
We need a tough prime minister . Not a thatcher that deposists ( poo) on its own folk. We need a thatcher type mentality but one that PROTECTS our own and can stand up against the cretins of the world eg putin If we could get someone to match that job description you'd have me on side in a flash. Probably a lot more as well. Its a pity all the politicians in the running are oxbridge and come from money. Alan johnson may have been good |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jun 25, 2016 9:11:20 GMT
The reasons for voting Brexit were different for different people.
In my opinion much of the ordinary working class vote was a vote against the Political class. It was saying " I have got concerns , You are not really interested, you don't represent me, you dont listen. Some of you don't even believe that I am smart enough to know what's going on, I am not smart enough to vote. Up yours . Don't take me for granted. At the very least what I do know about Europe is this....... I don't relate to it, it does not represent me. I don't want other people telling us what to do"
Of course the biggest losers are Labour. It has never addressed its issues honestly and has started out with the premis 'We know best , how do we get them to believe this'. They have shown no vision. Their answer to concerns about housing for young people, places at schools and the NHS has simply been " It's not the immigrants fault and let's half heartedly bash the Tories" No real solution , no vision. Young people are concerned about jobs and student debt. These issues should have been seriously addressed. Cleggy should have been democratically hounded out of politics. Thing is the elitist class are not really worried about jobs and debt and housing for their young people. (the issue why they predominantly voted Remain is in my opinion many faceted which I might come back to).
For me ,unfortunately, the Labour party is a tired old institution, an organisation much like the EU, which has moved away from its origins and is more concerned with self preservation, its own self interest, than representing those it purports to do. And the more this becomes obvious, the more that they believe that they are right so we get even more of the same. Once you lose self belief you become unconvincing. Obviously one big mistake was not to back Jeremy's lifelong anti EU stance , and he should have given his colleagues an ultimatum...back me on this biggest issue since 1945 or I am off. Their failure to see the argument says many things to me, playing politics (badly), lack of vision (again), short termism but perhaps most alarmingly , and this is the fatal dilemma which they have now .....no leaders, no possible successors to Jeremy. Those that MAY seem (in the current media dominated climate) acceptable such as Chukka, are not acceptable to the current grassroots AND for me are themselves career politicians who , in any case, have proven to offer no alternative. Either way , once the Tories regroup, as they will and always do, they will be laughing their socks off.
The next big hope for the disenfranchised working class is the next ( I predict ,very early next year ) General Election when , and this is the key, they will realise that they can exert power and are not necessarily scared into thinking in traditional party lines.
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Jun 25, 2016 10:38:34 GMT
No need for UKIP now. Tories leaderless. Labour fractured almost beyond repair. Leaves us with the Greens. They run the show from some nice offices in Bournemouth. Well, it's an option. Bournemouth for the 'Greens'? Wouldn't Brussels be more appropriate? Brighton is the home of the Greens... and the pinks,mauves and cherises. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jun 25, 2016 10:58:58 GMT
Corbyn gives a standard party political broadcast speech.
Tories failed to provide social housing, fat cat profits, immigration must be discussed, workers rights etc, etc.
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Post by codeye on Jun 25, 2016 11:06:58 GMT
Corbyn was a bit half hearted about the EU, and perhaps they will be stronger as a party if he remains as leader. Thing is he needs to grow a pair now, and tell his party how it is rather than the other way around.
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