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Post by ukcstokie on May 13, 2016 0:21:08 GMT
Does this guy have a point?
Keep with it.
Powerful stuff.
Some of this is uncomfortable viewing, but he's pretty close to the truth isn't he?
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Post by turtlefox on May 13, 2016 1:05:37 GMT
No. He's a nut job. Patronising with it as well. A killing spree in waiting. I'd be more scared of him than of foreigners.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 5:13:28 GMT
He made one or two valid points, but on the whole, a Fruit loop
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 5:25:30 GMT
Watched him for almost 15 seconds before getting bored by him...
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 19:12:13 GMT
The same thing happened when you English took over the Danelaw land in the 11th century, my family were doing fine then =)
Bloody Saxons and Angles, not to mention the Normans coming into my country and taking over BAH! go home all of you I want to be King.
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Post by manmarking on May 14, 2016 7:35:05 GMT
As fraise says, some valid points, a lot of crazy stuff. The bit about the European boycott is especially perplexing. Who is boycotting? And since he neglects to explain why, anyone got any idea why?
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 14, 2016 8:58:25 GMT
I stopped at "98% of blacks voted for Obama because of the colour of his skin"
The bloke is a fucking fantasist bullshitting moron.
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Post by manmarking on May 14, 2016 9:40:44 GMT
I stopped at "98% of blacks voted for Obama because of the colour of his skin" The bloke is a fucking fantasist bullshitting moron. I agree the bloke is very unlikeable and a lot of that video is mental. But he does stumble through a valid point, namely that a lot of people vote based on race. And that's not just bad for democracy but bad for social cohesion. The anecdote about first-generation immigrants being told which way to vote and doing so blindly is very apt. Especially in places like Stoke, where this practise happens all too frequently in the Pakistani community.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 14, 2016 9:48:27 GMT
I stopped at "98% of blacks voted for Obama because of the colour of his skin" The bloke is a fucking fantasist bullshitting moron. I agree the bloke is very unlikeable and a lot of that video is mental. But he does stumble through a valid point, namely that a lot of people vote based on race. And that's not just bad for democracy but bad for social cohesion. The anecdote about first-generation immigrants being told which way to vote and doing so blindly is very apt. Especially in places like Stoke, where this practise happens all too frequently in the Pakistani community. I think it's balls and an insult to the intelligence of immigrants and ethnic communities. His suggestion that Khan's campaining for the release of someone illegally incarcerated and tortured for 14 years in a US prison is based on race rather than common decency, also paints him as the grubby cunt he clearly is.
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Post by manmarking on May 14, 2016 10:08:25 GMT
I agree the bloke is very unlikeable and a lot of that video is mental. But he does stumble through a valid point, namely that a lot of people vote based on race. And that's not just bad for democracy but bad for social cohesion. The anecdote about first-generation immigrants being told which way to vote and doing so blindly is very apt. Especially in places like Stoke, where this practise happens all too frequently in the Pakistani community. I think it's balls and an insult to the intelligence of immigrants and ethnic communities. His suggestion that Khan's campaining for the release of someone illegally incarcerated and tortured for 14 years in a US prison is based on race rather than common decency, also paints him as the grubby cunt he clearly is. I think people do vote based on race, both whites and minorities alike. It's not an insult to anyone's intelligence, more perhaps a sad reflection of the divided and tribal world in which we live. 93% of African Americans voted Obama last time out I believe, which is far more than the "normal" level of Democrat support in that community. (If 93% or more vote Clinton this year then I'm quite prepared to hold my hands up). Completely agree on the issue of Khan's legal background. Totally irrelevant thing to throw in and betrays the blogger as a nasty man. But like I say, I think looking at it objectively, there are some uncomfortable truths in what he says, albeit wrapped up in a lot of mumbo jumbo, wild assumptions and poor reasoning
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 14, 2016 10:34:44 GMT
I think it's balls and an insult to the intelligence of immigrants and ethnic communities. His suggestion that Khan's campaining for the release of someone illegally incarcerated and tortured for 14 years in a US prison is based on race rather than common decency, also paints him as the grubby cunt he clearly is. I think people do vote based on race, both whites and minorities alike. It's not an insult to anyone's intelligence, more perhaps a sad reflection of the divided and tribal world in which we live. 93% of African Americans voted Obama last time out I believe, which is far more than the "normal" level of Democrat support in that community. (If 93% or more vote Clinton this year then I'm quite prepared to hold my hands up). Completely agree on the issue of Khan's legal background. Totally irrelevant thing to throw in and betrays the blogger as a nasty man. But like I say, I think looking at it objectively, there are some uncomfortable truths in what he says, albeit wrapped up in a lot of mumbo jumbo, wild assumptions and poor reasoning He might have a scintilla of a point mate but as you say it’s so wrapped up in made up stuff and comes from such a deeply dark place its easily ignored. I mean the bit about the campaign to ban Trump coming from ‘Muslim areas’. Immeasurable made up horse shit.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 14, 2016 15:57:57 GMT
As soon as he decided arbitrarily that everyone voted for an "indian fella" and obama simply because of their same skin colour i switched off. I'd already heard him talk about 50% of london inhabitants being "foreign born" (despite him conveniently ignoring the fact that he himself was foreign born) and say "white people listen".
Fucking nutjob with no evidence for anything he'd said up to that point other than conclusions he made himself with absolutely no fucking evidence.
Powerful stuff my arse! In any discussion you're supposed to look at the fors and the againsts then come to a suitable conclusion NOT decide on your conclusion then fit everything else around it,make things up and simply presume things to justify it.
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Post by metalhead on May 14, 2016 16:01:42 GMT
That's Stefan Molyneux and he's a fucking maniac. A couple of years ago, he tried to start some weird cult by telling people to cut off their families.
Utter fucking lunatic.
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