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Post by cousindupree on May 5, 2016 7:52:34 GMT
According to the Times Dyke has defended the kick off time of the cup final at 5.30, stating that maximising TV audience is more important than tradition.....says the ex head of BBC and Channel 5. Be glad when he fecks off.
The only good thing about a 5.30 kick off is that if it goes to extra time there will be shedloads of shit fans kipping on Euston Station.
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Post by GlennA on May 5, 2016 7:56:25 GMT
Why what time do the buses out to Surrey finish?
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Post by JoeinOz on May 5, 2016 7:58:54 GMT
I thought they should move it to 3pm on the Sunday but it was pointed out that time has to many shadows and makes the tv picture not as good.
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Post by cousindupree on May 5, 2016 7:58:57 GMT
Fair point, even if its only a handful of Mancs suffering on Euston station it will still bring a smile to my face
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Post by Gods on May 5, 2016 8:12:07 GMT
They ran an entire Premier League Program side by side of our one and only ever FA Cup Final in 2011 didn't they?
I think the ex-Man City man David Bernstein was at the helm of the FA then.
I suppose my point is this thing dates Greg Dyke.
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Post by JoeinOz on May 5, 2016 8:18:34 GMT
They ran an entire Premier League Program side by side of our one and only ever FA Cup Final in 2011 didn't they? I think the ex-Man City man David Bernstein was at the helm of the FA then. Year after as well. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 8:25:20 GMT
Heard along the grape vine he's more of a tits man then arse.
Do with that information what you will.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 8:33:02 GMT
I don't think they'll have to worry about this one going to extra time.
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Post by roostershair on May 5, 2016 8:33:33 GMT
At lot of lads on here will remember this. Switching the tele on (BBC 1)and settling down for 7 or so hours, moving only to go to the toilet! ( No younger fans, we didn't have a pause button!) The cameras on the team buses, special "It's a Knockout" and even on ITV you had Dickie Davies and Freddie Starr causing mayhem! Best of all a 3 o' clock kick off!!!! Brilliant professional coverage! Ah, the good old days.  |
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Post by toppercorner on May 5, 2016 8:37:12 GMT
I thought they should move it to 3pm on the Sunday but it was pointed out that time has to many shadows and makes the tv picture not as good. i actually was under the impression that they spent millions designing the entire stadium so that there would be no shadows on the pitch at all, on any given weekend if kick off was at 3pm. money well spent then ...... |
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Post by JoeinOz on May 5, 2016 8:43:08 GMT
At lot of lads on here will remember this. Switching the tele on (BBC 1)and settling down for 7 or so hours, moving only to go to the toilet! ( No younger fans, we didn't have a pause button!) The cameras on the team buses, special "It's a Knockout" and even on ITV you had Dickie Davies and Freddie Starr causing mayhem! Best of all a 3 o' clock kick off!!!! Brilliant professional coverage! Ah, the good old days. I never even went to the toilet. I used to get cup final nappies. They were free with the TV Times. |
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Post by roostershair on May 5, 2016 9:05:50 GMT
At lot of lads on here will remember this. Switching the tele on (BBC 1)and settling down for 7 or so hours, moving only to go to the toilet! ( No younger fans, we didn't have a pause button!) The cameras on the team buses, special "It's a Knockout" and even on ITV you had Dickie Davies and Freddie Starr causing mayhem! Best of all a 3 o' clock kick off!!!! Brilliant professional coverage! Ah, the good old days. I never even went to the toilet. I used to get cup final nappies. They were free with the TV Times. Nice one joe  |
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Post by metalhead on May 5, 2016 9:24:57 GMT
Sooner Dyke goes the better. He's a fat bald corrupt fucker who couldn't be any more hypocritical if he tried.
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Post by JoeinOz on May 5, 2016 9:33:19 GMT
Greg Dyke has wanted to introduce a lot of the measures we all want to see but he isn't good at the politics of it all which renders his good positive intentions pointless. It hasn't worked out with him but a lot of people would hate whoever had the job regardless of what they did or didn't achieve. Hate is the default mode.
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Post by mrcoke on May 5, 2016 9:43:47 GMT
I wonder which is better, modern times or the days when Stanley Matthews won his medal when the FA Cup was the pinnacle of a player's career and the closing highlight of the football season.
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Post by JoeinOz on May 5, 2016 9:45:56 GMT
I wonder which is better, modern times or the days when Stanley Matthews won his medal when the FA Cup was the pinnacle of a player's career and the closing highlight of the football season. Modern times are better but the FA Cup losing prestige is a sad loss. Loads of factors combined to undermine it. |
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Post by starkiller on May 5, 2016 9:49:34 GMT
I thought they should move it to 3pm on the Sunday but it was pointed out that time has to many shadows and makes the tv picture not as good. The real Wembley stadium was always a delight to see on TV as virtually the whole pitch was in sunlight. It just looked so much better that way. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 9:55:40 GMT
What credentials did Greg Dyke have to land the job he has now, serious question. Does anybody know?
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Post by JoeinOz on May 5, 2016 10:01:17 GMT
I thought they should move it to 3pm on the Sunday but it was pointed out that time has to many shadows and makes the tv picture not as good. The real Wembley stadium was always a delight to see on TV as virtually the whole pitch was in sunlight. It just looked so much better that way. Every FA Cup final I watched was sunny....until 1981 and it was raining and it didn'tlook right. |
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Post by mrcoke on May 5, 2016 10:10:16 GMT
What credentials did Greg Dyke have to land the job he has now, serious question. Does anybody know? Same as all at the top; it's not what you know, it's who you know. Do you think David Cameron has credentials? The election for the Labour leadership, the time before last, 2010 was between Dianne Abbott, Ed and David Miliband, Ed Balls, and Andy Burnham. Their qualifications are : Oxbridge educated, political researcher/civil servant, then politician. What experience do they have of real life: health service, business, defence, policing, etc. - none, and they are Labour. |
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Post by NassauDave on May 5, 2016 10:54:42 GMT
I thought they should move it to 3pm on the Sunday but it was pointed out that time has to many shadows and makes the tv picture not as good. i actually was under the impression that they spent millions designing the entire stadium so that there would be no shadows on the pitch at all, on any given weekend if kick off was at 3pm. money well spent then ...... They spent millions making the seats opposite the cameras look empty from half time until the 65th minute too. What a genius idea. |
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Post by SamB_SCFC on May 5, 2016 12:00:27 GMT
At lot of lads on here will remember this. Switching the tele on (BBC 1)and settling down for 7 or so hours, moving only to go to the toilet! ( No younger fans, we didn't have a pause button!) The cameras on the team buses, special "It's a Knockout" and even on ITV you had Dickie Davies and Freddie Starr causing mayhem! Best of all a 3 o' clock kick off!!!! Brilliant professional coverage! Ah, the good old days. Yeah the FA Cup final was a real occasion to look forward to. Literally hours of build up and everything analysed to the smallest detail. I remember the 1996 'spice boys' Liverpool team turning up in white suits which was the focus of all of the attention during the build up and came to symbolise the style over substance reputation of that particular Liverpool team. Small details like that wouldn't be noticed nowadays because the match isn't a big deal any more. It's a combination of factors really. The increasing importance of money has made getting in the top 4/staying in the Premier League far more important to most clubs. The Cup Final used to be the biggest annual TV football occasion but now with so much football constantly on every day of the week it's impossible to make one single match have the level of importance and occasion that the Cup Final used to have. The only way to up it's status would be to give the winner a Champions League place but that'll never happen because the established top 4 won't want the fourth place being decided by the lottery of the Cup. |
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Post by metalhead on May 5, 2016 12:09:40 GMT
Greg Dyke has wanted to introduce a lot of the measures we all want to see but he isn't good at the politics of it all which renders his good positive intentions pointless. It hasn't worked out with him but a lot of people would hate whoever had the job regardless of what they did or didn't achieve. Hate is the default mode.  Good ideas like keeping watch bribes. Cheers Greg |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on May 5, 2016 12:27:59 GMT
According to the Times Dyke has defended the kick off time of the cup final at 5.30, stating that maximising TV audience is more important than tradition.....says the ex head of BBC and Channel 5. Be glad when he fecks off. The only good thing about a 5.30 kick off is that if it goes to extra time there will be shedloads of shit fans kipping on Euston Station. It's not as simple as that. Because of the much larger TV audiences at the later kick-off time, the value of the TV rights to the FA is much greater with a later kick-off. Unlike the Premier League, where the TV money goes to privately-owned clubs, the FA is a not for profit organisation which uses it's money to develop football at all levels. There is of course a debate as to whether it has the correct priorities on that, but I'm quite sure that the FA Board's motivation on the kick-off time has nothing to do with Greg Dyke's previous career, and everything to do with maximising income for the development of the game. I would be most surprised if his successor tries to alter it. Much though many of us of my generation would love Cup Final day to return to what it once was, unfortunately we live in a different world now. |
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Post by The Stubborn Optimist on May 5, 2016 12:46:59 GMT
According to the Times Dyke has defended the kick off time of the cup final at 5.30, stating that maximising TV audience is more important than tradition.....says the ex head of BBC and Channel 5. Be glad when he fecks off. The only good thing about a 5.30 kick off is that if it goes to extra time there will be shedloads of shit fans kipping on Euston Station. It's not as simple as that. Because of the much larger TV audiences at the later kick-off time, the value of the TV rights to the FA is much greater with a later kick-off. Unlike the Premier League, where the TV money goes to privately-owned clubs, the FA is a not for profit organisation which uses it's money to develop football at all levels. There is of course a debate as to whether it has the correct priorities on that, but I'm quite sure that the FA Board's motivation on the kick-off time has nothing to do with Greg Dyke's previous career, and everything to do with maximising income for the development of the game. I would be most surprised if his successor tries to alter it. Much though many of us of my generation would love Cup Final day to return to what it once was, unfortunately we live in a different world now. My son has played junior football each season since he began in an under 7's league, he currently plays at under 14's. During this time I've never been aware of any "development" input from the FA in terms of coaching, facilities, equipment etc.. Apart from the league he plays in having some sort of affiliation to the county FA everything is provided by the parents through subscriptions,paying for kit, providing coaching, administration tasks, match officiating and so on. I'd be interested to know how the FA use the money to develop the game at junior level. |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 5, 2016 12:58:23 GMT
i'm guessing he's right... after all, when it used to be on at 3pm with an all morning build up on telly when i was younger i bet it only got about 25 people around the UK watching it.  just shows his priorities. TV figures are more important than an absolute nightmare travelling until god knows when for the fans who've actually fucking PAID to go and watch it! |
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Post by kentpotter on May 5, 2016 13:40:30 GMT
At lot of lads on here will remember this. Switching the tele on (BBC 1)and settling down for 7 or so hours, moving only to go to the toilet! ( No younger fans, we didn't have a pause button!) The cameras on the team buses, special "It's a Knockout" and even on ITV you had Dickie Davies and Freddie Starr causing mayhem! Best of all a 3 o' clock kick off!!!! Brilliant professional coverage! Ah, the good old days. Yep, in next door's after brekky cos they had a colour set. Always watched the match on BBC1 and the half-time punditry on ITV cos it was better. Then home for tea, then over the park opposite until dark re-enacting the whole match with yer mates. Golden memories  |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on May 5, 2016 13:55:14 GMT
What credentials did Greg Dyke have to land the job he has now, serious question. Does anybody know? Chairman of Brentford FC for several years immediately prior to becoming FA Chair; one time Board member of Man Utd; extensive executive and non-executive experience of large public and private organisations. The FA chair has to be independent, i.e not involved directly in any football organisation. I would say his CV was pretty strong for the role. |
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Post by JoeinOz on May 5, 2016 13:58:07 GMT
You can have an innovative dynamic outlook but if you can't get turkeys to vote for Christmas you are severely limited in what you can fulfill.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on May 5, 2016 14:25:39 GMT
Greg Dyke has wanted to introduce a lot of the measures we all want to see but he isn't good at the politics of it all which renders his good positive intentions pointless. It hasn't worked out with him but a lot of people would hate whoever had the job regardless of what they did or didn't achieve. Hate is the default mode. You are largely right, Joe. As a member of the FA Council I can tell you that he has tried to shake a lot of things up. There is underway a large transfer of staff posts and resources out of centralised functions at Wembley into the regions and on to the pitches. His England Commission identified the root causes of problems with the national team and the development of home grown talent. Some of the solutions were rightly very unpopular ( such as 'B' teams ) but at least it set the debate going. He has tried to totally reform the governance of the FA but has failed because of resistance from the FA Council. On his style, a member of Council described him as a bull looking for his next china shop, and there is truth in that, but would you rather have that than a time-serving pussy cat who enjoys the status and the salary but doesn't try to change anything ? Some of the personal abuse on this thread is inappropriate, and I suspect is also written in ignorance of what has actually been going on at the FA during his tenure. He leaves in the summer. I for one will wait until we see who takes over and what they try to do, before I start cheering. In the time-honoured phrase, be careful what you wish for. |
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Good ideas like keeping watch bribes.
